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Post by noblesol on Oct 15, 2024 13:28:38 GMT -5
The ONLY thing I can put on the coaching staff is recruiting. They cant force recruits, but ive spoken to multiple club coaches/connected people, and they all say the Hawaii staff needs personality lol. They said kaleo is ok, but thats about it. No one is mean, robyn is VERY respected, but they just dont connect well with everyone. They said Ang was good. We just need that personality hire, and a BLOCKING/hitting coach on the team WHOA! I said the exact same thing on here last year that Robyn has "no personality" and got shaite on by you and a bunch of others on here for saying it and now you're saying it and getting likes from some of the people that were shaiting on me for saying it last year?! SMDH....Uneffingreal... So, a 'bunch of others' must then prefer Robyn's personality or lack thereof to yours? |
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Post by hapaguy on Oct 15, 2024 13:30:39 GMT -5
WHOA! I said the exact same thing on here last year that Robyn has "no personality" and got shaite on by you and a bunch of others on here for saying it and now you're saying it and getting likes from some of the people that were shaiting on me for saying it last year?! SMDH....Uneffingreal... I never said Robyn had 0 personality I said that they need the personality hire. Robyn is ok. She’s not the most charming. Never will be. But she’s respected. No one hates her. It’s just hard to connect wit her You also spew hatred to the staff so that may be why Saying the staff needs personality doesn’t mean they have 0. It means they just need more. LOL whatevs bro! |
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Post by hapaguy on Oct 15, 2024 13:32:59 GMT -5
WHOA! I said the exact same thing on here last year that Robyn has "no personality" and got shaite on by you and a bunch of others on here for saying it and now you're saying it and getting likes from some of the people that were shaiting on me for saying it last year?! SMDH....Uneffingreal... So, a 'bunch of others' must then prefer Robyn's personality or lack thereof to yours? That's where your logic takes you? That's idiotic.... |
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Post by WahineFan44 on Oct 15, 2024 13:34:30 GMT -5
I never said Robyn had 0 personality I said that they need the personality hire. Robyn is ok. She’s not the most charming. Never will be. But she’s respected. No one hates her. It’s just hard to connect wit her You also spew hatred to the staff so that may be why Saying the staff needs personality doesn’t mean they have 0. It means they just need more. LOL whatevs bro! You have also said WAY worse things about robyn, like her ability to coach etc. THATS my problem with you. Robyn would outcoach you, and honestly most coaches in a heart beat. |
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Post by hapaguy on Oct 15, 2024 13:39:37 GMT -5
You have also said WAY worse things about robyn, like her ability to coach etc. THATS my problem with you. Robyn would outcoach you, and honestly most coaches in a heart beat. Now your just making shaite up! I never once questioned Robyn's ability to coach. That's a lie. In fact I've praised her coaching on many occassions. I've just questioned her recruiting (13 player roster!), and why so many players have left, and also her PR ability which goes back to her lack of personality that you obviously agree with now when you say "the Hawaii staff needs personality".... |
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Post by wahinefan on Oct 15, 2024 13:41:53 GMT -5
The one Wahine player that must be extremely happy that the Wahine Team will be joining the MWC is, Victoria Leyva. She will be able to play in front of family and friends when the Wahine Team plays UTEP.
On another note, she speaks very well, is quite smart, knows what she wants to do after volleyball, which is, become a Doctor, most likely a surgeon. She is definitely one that is goal driven. Would not surprised me if she becomes one of the Leaders of the Wahine Team, by the time her Wahine Volleyball career is done.
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Post by rainbowcard on Oct 15, 2024 13:44:31 GMT -5
I'm going to miss traveling with the team to the west coast games! My guess would be that we’d still travel to California in non conference and maybe even a big west team eventually. They still get to travel to good ol San Jose lol |
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Oct 15, 2024 13:50:48 GMT -5
You have also said WAY worse things about robyn, like her ability to coach etc. THATS my problem with you. Robyn would outcoach you, and honestly most coaches in a heart beat. Now your just making shaite up! I never once questioned Robyn's ability to coach. That's a lie. In fact I've praised her coaching on many occassions. I've just questioned her recruiting (13 player roster!), and why so many players have left, and also her PR ability which goes back to her lack of personality that you obviously agree with now when you say "the Hawaii staff needs personality".... As a GenXer I can say withour regret that lot of kids today are soft. They can't handle criticism or tough love so if players are leaving because of Robyn's coaching style, that's on them and not Robyn. Coaches use to open hand slap our helmet when we made mistakes as young Football players, now they'd probably get arrested for doing something like that. Man, I miss the 80"s. Anyway Kudos to Kate for sticking it out all these years with Robyn mothering her in Robyn's way. |
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Post by practicesafesets on Oct 15, 2024 13:50:51 GMT -5
many were speculating some drama. RAM really needs someone on her staff with Mary Wise type salesmanship The move to the MWC should help solidify the Purser commit and provide a better pipeline for Colorado, Utah , Wyoming, and Nevada talent Colorado and Utah are leaving MWC, but yes Nevada, Northern Cali and maybe even certain Texas players as well we should look into those areas harder going into the future with this move. Airforce (Colorado) is staying right? Arizona would be a great addition too |
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Post by babybacksets on Oct 15, 2024 13:55:01 GMT -5
The ONLY thing I can put on the coaching staff is recruiting. They cant force recruits, but ive spoken to multiple club coaches/connected people, and they all say the Hawaii staff needs personality lol. They said kaleo is ok, but thats about it. No one is mean, robyn is VERY respected, but they just dont connect well with everyone. They said Ang was good. We just need that personality hire, and a BLOCKING/hitting coach on the team WHOA! I said the exact same thing on here last year that Robyn has "no personality" and got shaite on by you and a bunch of others on here for saying it and now you're saying it and getting likes from some of the people that were shaiting on me for saying it last year?! SMDH....Uneffingreal... Just shut tf up crybaby lol |
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Post by wahinefan on Oct 15, 2024 13:56:23 GMT -5
The one plus, by the Wahine Team moving to the MWC is that it will open up the BWC Teams for pre-Conference matches. Besides playing the Upper echelon teams in the WCC, Hawaii will be able to schedule the Upper echelon teams in the BWC, for pre-Conference Tournament, here in Hawaii. Or, even play them in some of their tournaments.
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Post by wahinefan on Oct 15, 2024 13:59:10 GMT -5
Colorado and Utah are leaving MWC, but yes Nevada, Northern Cali and maybe even certain Texas players as well we should look into those areas harder going into the future with this move. Airforce (Colorado) is staying right? Arizona would be a great addition too Air Force will still be in the MWC, at least for now. |
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Post by staticb on Oct 15, 2024 14:01:06 GMT -5
As a GenXer I can say withour regret that lot of kids today are soft. They can't handle criticism or tough love so if players are leaving because of Robyn's coaching style, that's on them and not Robyn. Coaches use to open hand slap our helmet when we made mistakes as young Football players, now they'd probably get arrested for doing something like that. Man, I miss the 80"s. Anyway Kudos to Kate for sticking it out all these years with Robyn mothering her in Robyn's way. Sorry, times change. If you're a good coach you'll adapt your style to get the best out of your players. The best coaches are always adapting. (I actually do think Robyn is trying to change--she has mellowed way more, and even doing things like "Tunnel Talk" shows she's trying to work on her weaknesses) I have no idea if this is absolutely the problem if any coach has lost the ability to relate to most of their players, it's time for them to go. |
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Oct 15, 2024 14:15:05 GMT -5
As a GenXer I can say withour regret that lot of kids today are soft. They can't handle criticism or tough love so if players are leaving because of Robyn's coaching style, that's on them and not Robyn. Coaches use to open hand slap our helmet when we made mistakes as young Football players, now they'd probably get arrested for doing something like that. Man, I miss the 80"s. Anyway Kudos to Kate for sticking it out all these years with Robyn mothering her in Robyn's way. Sorry, times change. If you're a good coach you'll adapt your style to get the best out of your players. The best coaches are always adapting. (I actually do think Robyn is trying to change--she has mellowed way more, and even doing things like "Tunnel Talk" shows she's trying to work on her weaknesses) I have no idea if this is absolutely the problem if any coach has lost the ability to relate to most of their players, it's time for them to go. I don't agree with your last sentence. Players come and go, not coaches (for the most part and especially at Hawai'i.) Dave was tough on his players too but old school players handled it. |
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Post by Cubicle No More ... on Oct 15, 2024 14:48:27 GMT -5
I don't understand why people are calling for Ah Mow's head- this is just the current landscape for womens volleyball. The men's team was in almost the exact situation last season when Chakas went down and they lost to teams they weren't "supposed" to, yet people aren't calling for Charlie Wade's head. Hawaii doesnt have the luxury of getting those five star recruits who are AA-level as soon as they come in; they never really have. We had a few here and there like Danielson, Kamanao, Ljunquist, but even those players improved with Hawaii's coaching. The majority of Hawaii's AAs were lesser-recruited players who developed into the AA-level players after a few years (think Igiede, Hartong, Duggins, Goods and so many more). This is going to be more of an issue with NIL deals and not being able to compete. Ah Mow is doing what Shoji did: she gets athletes she thinks she can train into AAs. I think she is a great coach that does a good job of developing talent. Unfortunately, a lot of the talent left because of the COVID, portal, NIL, etc. Last year we would have had Hellvig headlining the team. This year we could have had Johnson and DeGoode. Hawaii with those players who could contributed early on, and factoring in the normal improvement under this coaching staff, would be comfortably in the top 25 if not maybe even the top 10. Do we really want to trash the whole program because of some players who left early? Seriously, some of the "fans" on here are just plain dumb with some of the critiques of the team and coaches. You can’t be serious.. Wade has produced National Championships.. Ah Mow has barely produced a top 25 team! Yeah that was a dumb comparison.... not really ... there is some validity in Psychopotamus's point ... there was a time earlier in wade's coaching tenure when he struggled to make or missed entirely the post-season conference tournament. let's not forget that the recent run of success for the men's team is just that -- recent. comparing the men's and women's side isn't one-for-one, because the landscapes are different. but (and this again get's to Psychopotamus's point) ... if we would have held wade to a similar criteria for 'retention' that some are urging now for robyn (i.e. firing him for failing to make the post-season) ... wade would not have been around to usher in those recent ncaa titles ... |
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