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Post by stanfordvb on May 26, 2024 16:45:42 GMT -5
more well rounded, more physical, plays smarter utterback is very talented and probably the better raw athlete of the two, but Petersen's overall game is farther along from what I've seen. Part of that probably comes from her mom being a D1 head coach More physical?? No thats Utterback for sure. Payton could be better but Ava is way more physical. and she has the fastest arm swing too Agree to disagree I guess. I've seen them both play quite a bit and coached against both of them multiple times over the past couple of years. Petersen hits the ball harder and forces it through bigger blocks more effectively. Most coaches would not refer to utterback as a physical OH, and thats not a bad thing - it's just not the kind of player she is. She's skinny and undersized lol, again not a bad thing but also not someone who is physical. The swings she got in the spring would not be described as physical either lol
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Post by choopachoops on May 26, 2024 16:57:56 GMT -5
Louisville is fielding a strong team, one that in previous years very well may have competed for a championship. But when you have teams like Nebraska, who have players like Krause, Blackwell possibly on the bench (including pierce and mauch who are stellar on their own) Texas who I don’t even need to describe their bench, cause it’s unheard of, it’ll hard pressed to win. They have a shot for sure, but really I can’t see anyone but Texas or Nebraska winning This is what everyone said about Wisconsin and Nebraska in 2022. Only for Nebraska to choke in the round of 16, as well as Wisconsin. Pitt and Louisville made it, despite the low depth. Pitt had more depth, more height, and more athleticism than Louisville in the Final Four. Louisville ended up going to the final. Stanford was returning their starting lineup for two years straight and still choked. At the end of the day, depth doesn't matter all the time; chemistry and lineup matter. Texas struggled so much at the start of the season, but they got it together, figured out their lineup, and won. Many teams have depth, even with big name athletes, big teams etc., some teams always prove us wrong. Nobody would have believed Louisville would make it to the Final Four twice in a row because of how small they are. Every season is unpredictable.
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Post by VBallLife on May 26, 2024 18:03:45 GMT -5
Louisville is fielding a strong team, one that in previous years very well may have competed for a championship. But when you have teams like Nebraska, who have players like Krause, Blackwell Allick etc possibly on the bench (including pierce and mauch who are stellar on their own) Texas who I don’t even need to describe their bench, cause it’s unheard of, it’ll hard pressed to win. They have a shot for sure, but really I can’t see anyone but Texas or Nebraska winning And that’s why you play the games. Wisconsin will be strong,Pitt and others . Someone always gets hot as well. San Diego a couple of years ago.
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Post by herecomesthebusboom on May 28, 2024 13:26:17 GMT -5
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Post by stanfordvb on May 28, 2024 14:04:33 GMT -5
2025 recruits looking strong already They're definitely solid, but still not quite to the level of that wisco / stanford / pitt / florida / kentucky / psu / purdue consistently pick up. I didn't include Nebraska and texas cause they're in a tier of their own imo and I don't expect louisville to recruit on their level. I'd say Louisville has recruited more similarly to the level of schools like Creighton / BYU. They've had a couple ranked in the top 20-50 range the last couple of years - robins may have been top 15 - but it would be cool to start seeing recruits with the stature of Babcock / Stafford / deleye / Benjamin / parks / rothe / starck / Hudson / chicoine just to name a few. They've been as successful as pretty much anyone over the last 3 seasons but haven't broken through that recruiting barrier just yet. It's getting better forsure but they're still not getting those youth national team level recruits yet.
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Post by VBallLife on May 28, 2024 14:32:28 GMT -5
2025 recruits looking strong already They're definitely solid, but still not quite to the level of that wisco / stanford / pitt / florida / kentucky / psu / purdue consistently pick up. I didn't include Nebraska and texas cause they're in a tier of their own imo and I don't expect louisville to recruit on their level. I'd say Louisville has recruited more similarly to the level of schools like Creighton / BYU. They've had a couple ranked in the top 20-50 range the last couple of years - robins may have been top 15 - but it would be cool to start seeing recruits with the stature of Babcock / Stafford / deleye / Benjamin / parks / rothe / starck / Hudson / chicoine just to name a few. They've been as successful as pretty much anyone over the last 3 seasons but haven't broken through that recruiting barrier just yet. It's getting better forsure but they're still not getting those youth national team level recruits yet. many of those recruits are being picked due to being recruited by the coach and assistants of youth national teams . Very subjective . Babcock was not rated top 25,and was arguably the best freshman this past season. A few years back a Nebraska class was highly rated and now it appears they were very overrated. Lots of politics involved!
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Post by eyeroll2021 on May 28, 2024 15:09:24 GMT -5
They're definitely solid, but still not quite to the level of that wisco / stanford / pitt / florida / kentucky / psu / purdue consistently pick up. I didn't include Nebraska and texas cause they're in a tier of their own imo and I don't expect louisville to recruit on their level. I'd say Louisville has recruited more similarly to the level of schools like Creighton / BYU. They've had a couple ranked in the top 20-50 range the last couple of years - robins may have been top 15 - but it would be cool to start seeing recruits with the stature of Babcock / Stafford / deleye / Benjamin / parks / rothe / starck / Hudson / chicoine just to name a few. They've been as successful as pretty much anyone over the last 3 seasons but haven't broken through that recruiting barrier just yet. It's getting better forsure but they're still not getting those youth national team level recruits yet. many of those recruits are being picked due to being recruited by the coach and assistants of youth national teams . Very subjective . Babcock was not rated top 25,and was arguably the best freshman this past season. A few years back a Nebraska class was highly rated and now it appears they were very overrated. Lots of politics involved! Not "arguably". Babcock was NFOY lol
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Post by herecomesthebusboom on May 28, 2024 15:25:36 GMT -5
2025 recruits looking strong already They're definitely solid, but still not quite to the level of that wisco / stanford / pitt / florida / kentucky / psu / purdue consistently pick up. I didn't include Nebraska and texas cause they're in a tier of their own imo and I don't expect louisville to recruit on their level. I'd say Louisville has recruited more similarly to the level of schools like Creighton / BYU. They've had a couple ranked in the top 20-50 range the last couple of years - robins may have been top 15 - but it would be cool to start seeing recruits with the stature of Babcock / Stafford / deleye / Benjamin / parks / rothe / starck / Hudson / chicoine just to name a few. They've been as successful as pretty much anyone over the last 3 seasons but haven't broken through that recruiting barrier just yet. It's getting better forsure but they're still not getting those youth national team level recruits yet. It’ll be interesting to see the caliber of recruits Louisville is able to get with a new cycle about to begin in a few weeks. I wonder what our priorities for 2026’s are. I’d have to imagine a setter and a middle?
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Post by bigredhimbo on May 28, 2024 15:27:05 GMT -5
sorry random but a hypothetical Huskers alumni scrimmage idea got me thinking... do you think dbk can still set to some extent? wondering if she helps coach setters or do reps too idk
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Post by ezevb on May 28, 2024 15:36:00 GMT -5
sorry random but a hypothetical Huskers alumni scrimmage idea got me thinking... do you think dbk can still set to some extent? wondering if she helps coach setters or do reps too idk Im guessing if someone is passing right on top of her head, she’s still as good as she needs to be in practice.
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Post by choopachoops on May 28, 2024 17:34:33 GMT -5
2025 recruits looking strong already They're definitely solid, but still not quite to the level of that wisco / stanford / pitt / florida / kentucky / psu / purdue consistently pick up. I didn't include Nebraska and texas cause they're in a tier of their own imo and I don't expect louisville to recruit on their level. I'd say Louisville has recruited more similarly to the level of schools like Creighton / BYU. They've had a couple ranked in the top 20-50 range the last couple of years - robins may have been top 15 - but it would be cool to start seeing recruits with the stature of Babcock / Stafford / deleye / Benjamin / parks / rothe / starck / Hudson / chicoine just to name a few. They've been as successful as pretty much anyone over the last 3 seasons but haven't broken through that recruiting barrier just yet. It's getting better forsure but they're still not getting those youth national team level recruits yet. Louisville has ranked top 10 in recruiting rankings for the past 3 years, they may not get top 5 recruits but they do well with who they recruit. At some point Ava Utterback was the NO 5 recruit in the country but she got injured. Louisville does pretty well in recruiting imo and it shows in their season achievemnets. They may not get the big names but the small ones always tend to suprise us and they have gotten very far with the hidden gems. for 2024 they were ranked 8 and for 2025 its looking like they are going to be ranked 10 according to Vbaladrenaline only. I think Prepvolleyball ranked them at 8. They work very well with what they have. Nayelis Cabello is one of the best 2024 setters in the country and First team AVCA HS All American and AAU National runner up. Payton Peterson the NO.1 recruit from Iowa and Gatorade Player of the year and Player of the year Prep Volleyball finalist. Utterback being the number 5 recruit when she commited to Louisville. Chloe Meester again the NO.1 recruit from Iowa. Addison Makun top 15 Middle Blocker in the country. Hannah Kenny Top 20 setter in the country but commited as a Libero. I think they are doing just fine lol. Top recruits dont always mean a great impact, i mean look at Hayden Kubik
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Post by VBallLife on May 28, 2024 17:39:25 GMT -5
many of those recruits are being picked due to being recruited by the coach and assistants of youth national teams . Very subjective . Babcock was not rated top 25,and was arguably the best freshman this past season. A few years back a Nebraska class was highly rated and now it appears they were very overrated. Lots of politics involved! Not "arguably". Babcock was NFOY lol FACTS! So the “subscription” magazines rankings mean absolutely nothing . Being in the right environment and having the opportunity to display their skills is the key.
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Post by choopachoops on May 28, 2024 17:51:07 GMT -5
They're definitely solid, but still not quite to the level of that wisco / stanford / pitt / florida / kentucky / psu / purdue consistently pick up. I didn't include Nebraska and texas cause they're in a tier of their own imo and I don't expect louisville to recruit on their level. I'd say Louisville has recruited more similarly to the level of schools like Creighton / BYU. They've had a couple ranked in the top 20-50 range the last couple of years - robins may have been top 15 - but it would be cool to start seeing recruits with the stature of Babcock / Stafford / deleye / Benjamin / parks / rothe / starck / Hudson / chicoine just to name a few. They've been as successful as pretty much anyone over the last 3 seasons but haven't broken through that recruiting barrier just yet. It's getting better forsure but they're still not getting those youth national team level recruits yet. Louisville has ranked top 10 in recruiting rankings for the past 3 years, they may not get top 5 recruits but they do well with who they recruit. At some point Ava Utterback was the NO 5 recruit in the country but she got injured. Louisville does pretty well in recruiting imo and it shows in their season achievemnets. They may not get the big names but the small ones always tend to suprise us and they have gotten very far with the hidden gems. for 2024 they were ranked 8 and for 2025 its looking like they are going to be ranked 10 according to Vbaladrenaline only. I think Prepvolleyball ranked them at 8. They work very well with what they have. Nayelis Cabello is one of the best 2024 setters in the country and First team AVCA HS All American and AAU National runner up. Payton Peterson the NO.1 recruit from Iowa and Gatorade Player of the year and Player of the year Prep Volleyball finalist. Utterback being the number 5 recruit when she commited to Louisville. Chloe Meester again the NO.1 recruit from Iowa. Addison Makun top 15 Middle Blocker in the country. Hannah Kenny Top 20 setter in the country but commited as a Libero. I think they are doing just fine lol. Top recruits dont always mean a great impact, i mean look at Hayden Kubik Babcock wasnt even a high rank and was FOTY Torrey was and wasnt the biggest impact for Pitt Harper Murray as well, struggled with inconsistency but got her team far With recruit rankings a lot of things are considered into those rankings not just the athletic ability
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Post by choopachoops on May 28, 2024 18:10:49 GMT -5
Not "arguably". Babcock was NFOY lol FACTS! So the “subscription” magazines rankings mean absolutely nothing . Being in the right environment and having the opportunity to display their skills is the key. Prep Dig has also said multiple times that "the rankings are a projection of someone’s future collegiate potential, not a reflection of their current ability" Olivia babcock and Claire Chausse are perfect examples Pitt and Louisville have made it to the Elite 8 4 years in a row with these "low recruits'' they really dont mean anything and these magazines are always proven wrong. Devin Kahahawai, was like the number one recruit as well. The rankings never mean anything
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Post by stanfordvb on May 28, 2024 18:16:09 GMT -5
They're definitely solid, but still not quite to the level of that wisco / stanford / pitt / florida / kentucky / psu / purdue consistently pick up. I didn't include Nebraska and texas cause they're in a tier of their own imo and I don't expect louisville to recruit on their level. I'd say Louisville has recruited more similarly to the level of schools like Creighton / BYU. They've had a couple ranked in the top 20-50 range the last couple of years - robins may have been top 15 - but it would be cool to start seeing recruits with the stature of Babcock / Stafford / deleye / Benjamin / parks / rothe / starck / Hudson / chicoine just to name a few. They've been as successful as pretty much anyone over the last 3 seasons but haven't broken through that recruiting barrier just yet. It's getting better forsure but they're still not getting those youth national team level recruits yet. Louisville has ranked top 10 in recruiting rankings for the past 3 years, they may not get top 5 recruits but they do well with who they recruit. At some point Ava Utterback was the NO 5 recruit in the country but she got injured. Louisville does pretty well in recruiting imo and it shows in their season achievemnets. They may not get the big names but the small ones always tend to suprise us and they have gotten very far with the hidden gems. for 2024 they were ranked 8 and for 2025 its looking like they are going to be ranked 10 according to Vbaladrenaline only. I think Prepvolleyball ranked them at 8. They work very well with what they have. Nayelis Cabello is one of the best 2024 setters in the country and First team AVCA HS All American and AAU National runner up. Payton Peterson the NO.1 recruit from Iowa and Gatorade Player of the year and Player of the year Prep Volleyball finalist. Utterback being the number 5 recruit when she commited to Louisville. Chloe Meester again the NO.1 recruit from Iowa. Addison Makun top 15 Middle Blocker in the country. Hannah Kenny Top 20 setter in the country but commited as a Libero. I think they are doing just fine lol. Yes louisville definitely does get good recruits as I mentioned - players like robins, debeer, utterback, Petersen, schrand, cabello were known names in the prep scene. But most of those other schools I mentioned would not have offered majority of them scholarship. I agree they do very well with what they have, but as a fan I'd like to see what they can do with the same prep talent as the schools they're competing with for finals 4s are getting. I never said they're not recruiting well or that they won't be fine, but they aren't recruiting at the same level as those other schools thats just a fact. I think it makes it that much more impressive how dbk and the staff are developing players and constructing rosters. At the same time tho as a fan, of course I want to see youth national team players and top 10 recruits land at louisville. It hasn't happened yet
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