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Post by romeo on Oct 3, 2005 16:12:22 GMT -5
quote]They also actually have "SETTERS" as well as passers! The LBS setting is the weakest part of our overall game right now, with no real improvement in sight unfortunately! [/quote] Beachman, how does the fact that the setting coach and the setter are related play into the team dynamics? I've always thought that nepotism can't be good for a team, either in athletics or business. Maybe the Beach overcomes this somehow? I haven't been able to watch the team this year, and I'm curious.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2005 16:23:00 GMT -5
I noticed Natalie Uhart hasn't played much this year. Wasn't she about the 3rd ranked recruit a few years ago, yet she hasn't really done much in college. I think she has been injured, but I would think that she could be a major contributor for the team by now.
What does her future hold?
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Post by beachman on Oct 3, 2005 20:01:43 GMT -5
Natalie has been hurt virtually her entire career. now has chronic shin splints allowing her to practice about 1 day a week....too bad, great physical talent who will never develop due to her injuries.......
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Post by gymbratt on Oct 3, 2005 20:01:54 GMT -5
>:(It makes me a little angry to know that this is a pattern. Why is it aloud to continue if true? I am hoping that the team and the coach will pull out of it and someone gets control there, this is not so fun anymore nor is it easy to watch. As an old coach I see things that I personally would do differently, however I am old so I am presuming that Long Beach State will figure it out. That this is just a growing pain... Losing is one thing, getting beat is another, yet beating people up is still another... I am really hoping that all you "old dogs" will start making some positive contributions to fixing the problems that seem to be plaguing the team, not reaffirming rumors that are running ramped, about the state of affairs of the team and the coach. I do think that the talent pool is very deep, even with the freshmen playing, yet there seems to be some fundamentally sound things that certain players can't execute, young and old. Personally players standing flat footed, and back on there heels if anything, is fundamentally wrong, I do not care if this is the way USA does it or not, physics will tell you, that reaction time would be better if your feet were not planted. Just a scientific fact and not a theory. Hopefully the coach is a bigger person than some of you are saying and he will go back to school. Old dogs can learn new tricks, if they want to suffer a little humility...
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Post by beachman on Oct 3, 2005 20:54:21 GMT -5
Not sure what to make of your post here. Injuries are a part of this game and short of giving these kids a polygraph it is pretty difficult to know what injuries or injury related problems that they had throughout their Jr. careers. Natalie came to LBS injured and has remained in that condition, at some degree, since that time. Surgeries, tons of physical therapy, etc. haven't made her healthy enough to play at a high level. Maybe in some programs, ie D2 etc. that is possible, but not at our level....You live and learn and the coaching staff at LBS has surely experienced something less than optimum.....the real question in my mind here is how much has it hurt the program and how quickly will re recover. Actually we are about as healthy right now as any team that I can recall at LBS at this time of the season. Lots of vb left to play but with the exception of Natalie, no one on this team has suffered any really serious injury this season...knock on wood!
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Post by Gorf on Oct 3, 2005 23:46:33 GMT -5
LBSU seems to have had more than a "typical" number of injuries over the past 3-4 to key?
Have those been of the "fluke" variety (ie, landing on someone's foot and badly injuring an ankle or knee), are they related at all to the level of training, a combination of both, or something else altogether?
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Post by bblamb on Oct 4, 2005 12:57:17 GMT -5
Interesting and insightful analysis PierreAmi, I think you have touched a nerve. The "system" has fallen behind the times. So many girls now come to college with many polished skills, it is up to the coaching staff to look for that "chemistry" and get the right mix on the floor for maxium results. This is obviously not happening.
As far as setting, get use to it. This is what's in store for the next four years. Too bad for all the great hitters on this team.
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Post by beachman on Oct 4, 2005 15:09:42 GMT -5
LBSU seems to have had more than a "typical" number of injuries over the past 3-4 to key? Have those been of the "fluke" variety (ie, landing on someone's foot and badly injuring an ankle or knee), are they related at all to the level of training, a combination of both, or something else altogether? Only one of LBS current players who has had any injury problems came to LBS healthy, Erica Chidester. All of the others had pre-existing problems or injuries that we either knew about or knew nothing about! And that's the way it is!
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Post by Gorf on Oct 4, 2005 15:19:22 GMT -5
So basically what you're saying is that injured players like signing up to play at LBSU? (Sorry, couldn't resist.)
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Post by beachman on Oct 4, 2005 15:35:10 GMT -5
So basically what you're saying is that injured players like signing up to play at LBSU? (Sorry, couldn't resist.) Yeah, I know but then in reading most of your posts, it's understandable!
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Post by beachter1 on Oct 4, 2005 16:46:48 GMT -5
Interesting and insightful analysis PierreAmi, I think you have touched a nerve. The "system" has fallen behind the times. So many girls now come to college with many polished skills, it is up to the coaching staff to look for that "chemistry" and get the right mix on the floor for maxium results. This is obviously not happening. As far as setting, get use to it. This is what's in store for the next four years. Too bad for all the great hitters on this team. :-/Why you must be a fortune teller! Just because the setter had a bad week-end, gee let me think she is a freshman, and she did beat out, legitimately the other setter, there was really know question at the time who the best setter was to put on the floor, I am sure if you asked the team and the other setter, that would be how it was. However if opportunity knocks, say injury God for bid!,or if the freshman just isn't cutting it, then I guess the other setter should be prepared to take advantage of opportunity, she gets to work every day on her setting and I am sure if she really wanted to get way better she would be carrying that vb around campus with her working on her skills. Seems to me that Vargas had a great game against Pepperdine and St Mary's, so how do you figure that the hitters on the team are in harms way. She will improve, such petty comments, i wonder what is really on your agenda? ?
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Post by Gorf on Oct 4, 2005 17:05:25 GMT -5
So basically what you're saying is that injured players like signing up to play at LBSU? (Sorry, couldn't resist.) Yeah, I know but then in reading most of your posts, it's understandable! Methinks you've been reading your own posts.
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Post by PierreAmi on Oct 4, 2005 17:09:57 GMT -5
I think the liitle kid is a good setter, and could be a great one soon. She's probably already better than last year's setter, and she's better than the other one - who wasn't really a setter at all before coming to LB.
My one reservation is the kid's size, but her little mom was pretty good IIRC.
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Post by bblamb on Oct 4, 2005 17:17:58 GMT -5
Beachman, your statement about current players and injuries at Long Beach is a bit harsh. It is not true that all the players came with injuries. I have not heard of any among the current freshman and I believe that one of the injuries was sustained in the course of a match.
For Beachert1, I do not know why you would interpret my comments as petty, I was only agreeing with a previous post that stated that setting was the "weakest" position at the moment. There is definite inexperience there, that was all I was trying to say. It will take time for that to change, as it did when the setter from last year came. It is just a fact of this level of volleyball, and it was not meant as an assessment of any ones current ability.
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Post by fabulous on Oct 4, 2005 18:09:09 GMT -5
i thought by now lbsu would be in the top 25 all year long by now?? now when schools have lbsu on their schedules - they just laugh and laugh and laugh - and not only at brians hair piece too!!
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