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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2023 13:02:26 GMT -5
This is Holiday. He’s a troll, y’all. Just because you have difficulty arguing out of a paper bag off the net, does not mean you’re going to win over here either. They want to force everyone into their psychosis. They are free to believe whatever they want but they are not free to force others to live in their fantasy world.
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Post by gibbyb1 on Dec 14, 2023 13:03:39 GMT -5
Just because you have difficulty arguing out of a paper bag off the net, does not mean you’re going to win over here either. They want to force everyone into their psychosis. They are free to believe whatever they want but they are not free to force others to live in their fantasy world. What is it that’s being “forced” on you???
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2023 13:04:55 GMT -5
to be fair to everyone involved create divisions specifically for this situation. Create a transgender sport and give it the integrity and importance like every other sport. I agree with this. I think the whole thing is nonsense but if you want to be fair then give everyone the choice and give transgender their own league on own bathrooms so everyone there chooses to be themselves. The problem I have by forcing biological males into women’s locker rooms and sports is your not taking biological women’s feelings into account.
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Post by hornshouse23 on Dec 14, 2023 13:05:04 GMT -5
What a fun crowd. Truly.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Dec 14, 2023 13:06:14 GMT -5
He wont see this cause I blocked him, but this is the same poster who literally verbally attacked people when even a small thing that was not praise worthy was said about the citadel
Now THATS a mental illness
Its giving unhinged and Delulu
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2023 13:09:13 GMT -5
They want to force everyone into their psychosis. They are free to believe whatever they want but they are not free to force others to live in their fantasy world. What is it that’s being “forced” on you??? Trying to force people to call others he, she , they , them or trying to attack people who don’t comply as dangerous. They them is a term for mutiple. The whole thing is insanity
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Post by badgercard on Dec 14, 2023 13:09:30 GMT -5
I'm done reading Mr. Penn State's close-minded opinions. At the end of the day, there are bad people of all types! We don't stereotype and hate all straight cis people just because one is bad. Volleyball should bring us together, rivalries and all. Hate has no place around here.
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Post by HappyVolley on Dec 14, 2023 13:10:10 GMT -5
Adults can do what they want. They can take as many hormones as they like or get their breasts or penises removed it they wish. Children are a different matter. Children do not have good judgement. Children cannot process information in the same way adults do. Children often change their minds and their perceptions of themselves and others as they get older. That is the norm. It is not an anomaly. Your statement that the effects of puberty blockers are reversible is absurd. I can provide you with documentation, but I'm sure you know how to use Google. A biological advantage at birth can't be erased fully, regardless of the quantity of hormones consumed. I didn’t say they were reversible if you’ve gone through the entire process. I specifically gave a hypothetical where a person changed their mind somewhat early (still in the timeframe where puberty occurs). if someone changes their mind decades later, then that’s a completely different story. but those stories are rare. much more rare than trans people staying in the body their transitioned to. why do you want the majority to suffer for a small minority? I also specifically mentioned how gender affirming surgeries are not allowed in 99.9% of cases before adulthood. I’m not saying children should be getting gender affirming surgeries either. I would like to make that clear. I also don’t agree with your statement that children often change their perception of themselves when it comes to their gender identity. I have never once thought I was a woman? maybe I’m in the minority though? maybe you have? idk! I guess I’ve just never heard a non-trans person in my life say that they at some point in their childhood thought they were the opposite gender. I’ve definitely heard people say they were “tomboys”, but being a tomboy doesn’t mean you identify as a boy. if someone doesn’t go through puberty as a male, where is the biological advantage anymore? found this in the national library of medicine: “There does not seem to be any reason to expect advantage for transgender people prior to puberty of or for transgender people whose gender-affirming treatment begins at the onset of puberty.” so let trans people get gender-affirming treatment. treatment≠surgery btw. Actually, one does not have to "complete the process" to incur irreversible effects. Well, it appears some have to suffer. Actually, they are all suffering from mental illness. My concern is that children must be protected from their own delusions and poor judgement. They must also be protected from parents who see having a trans kid as some sort of status symbol. Oh yeah, they also have to be protected from people like you.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Dec 14, 2023 13:10:31 GMT -5
I'm done reading Mr. Penn State's close-minded opinions. At the end of the day, there are bad people of all types! We don't stereotype and hate all straight cis people just because one is bad. Volleyball should bring us together, rivalries and all. Hate has no place around here.
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Post by babybacksets on Dec 14, 2023 13:11:43 GMT -5
No. It’s because your hateful and bigoted so therefore you shouldn’t be taken seriously because you aren’t arguing as an honest actor, wanting to be informed, you are doing so from a place of natural hate for trans athletes and a desire to “otherize” them in any way possible. You couldn't possibly know what place I'm arguing from. You only know what place you want me to be arguing from, so you feel justified in not addressing anything I'm saying and just resorting to ad hominem attacks. In your mind, the only honest actor is the actor who agrees with your nonsense. The place you’re arguing from is obvious from the way you are posting currently and what you have posted in the past. You are not someone that ANYONE should consider taking seriously. You are an individual of poor character and fraudulently trying to pass yourself off as someone who has a well thought out, common sense, empathetic take on the subject. You are just another a$$hole looking to misgender people and get your daily dopamine boost off of your perceived “triggering of the libs” Get your transparent b!tch*ss out of here
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Post by HappyVolley on Dec 14, 2023 13:12:01 GMT -5
He wont see this cause I blocked him, but this is the same poster who literally verbally attacked people when even a small thing that was not praise worthy was said about the citadel Now THATS a mental illness Its giving unhinged and Delulu Of course I can see it. And you will have the option to see this.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2023 13:13:09 GMT -5
I'm done reading Mr. Penn State's close-minded opinions. At the end of the day, there are bad people of all types! We don't stereotype and hate all straight cis people just because one is bad. Volleyball should bring us together, rivalries and all. Hate has no place around here. Closed minded? They’re two biological sexes, men and woman. You can do whatever you want but that never changes. If people want to participate in this mass delusion that a man can become a women and a woman can become a man that’s on them but quit attacking people who don’t want to participate in this madness
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Post by uofaGRAD on Dec 14, 2023 13:18:19 GMT -5
Actually, one does not have to "complete the process" to incur irreversible effects. Well, it appears some have to suffer. Actually, they are all suffering from mental illness. My concern is that children must be protected from their own delusions and poor judgement. They must also be protected from parents who see having a trans kid as some sort of status symbol. Oh yeah, they also have to be protected from people like you. I’m shocked you resulted to a personal attack when I have been nothing but cordial with you throughout our conversation. please inform me of what threat I pose to a kid? that I would rather let them be happy AND play sports rather than let a kid go down a lot path of body dysmorphia, depression, and possible suicide? if we want to get personal, you’re a pathetic excuse of a human being who clearly does not care about any child’s actual wellbeing, since you would prefer to exponentially raise a child’s suicide rate than to try and get them the care that will make them feel happier, and most importantly, keep them alive.
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Post by HappyVolley on Dec 14, 2023 13:18:41 GMT -5
You couldn't possibly know what place I'm arguing from. You only know what place you want me to be arguing from, so you feel justified in not addressing anything I'm saying and just resorting to ad hominem attacks. In your mind, the only honest actor is the actor who agrees with your nonsense. The place you’re arguing from is obvious from the way you are posting currently and what you have posted in the past. You are not someone that ANYONE should consider taking seriously. You are an individual of poor character and fraudulently trying to pass yourself off as someone who has a well thought out, common sense, empathetic take on the subject. You are just another a$$hole looking to misgender people and get your daily dopamine boost off of your perceived “triggering of the libs” Get your transparent b!tch*ss out of here I have not posted on the matter in the past, at least not in this forum. I believe I quite some time ago say something favorable about Riley Gaines in the Off The Net forum. I don't misgender anyone. I refer to men/boys as men/boys and women/girls as women/girls. However, I refuse to affirm the delusion of the mentally ill. I'm not sure what fraudulent act I've committed. Perhaps you can inform me. I've never claimed to be empathetic. I do however know the difference between right and wrong, and therefore know it is wrong to subject children to sexualization or any form of sexual abuse.
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Post by badgercard on Dec 14, 2023 13:18:55 GMT -5
I'm done reading Mr. Penn State's close-minded opinions. At the end of the day, there are bad people of all types! We don't stereotype and hate all straight cis people just because one is bad. Volleyball should bring us together, rivalries and all. Hate has no place around here. Closed minded? They’re two biological sexes, men and woman. You can do whatever you want but that never changes. If people want to participate in this mass delusion that a man can become a women and a woman can become a man that’s on them but quit attacking people who don’t want to participate in this madness Take your own advice and stop harassing this CHILD for making a decision about their body. If it bothers you so damn much, stop reading this thread and leave it be lmao.
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