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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2023 13:56:51 GMT -5
UW must be desperate to become relevant again. smh. I think their better odds are going after an international player with sketchy eligibility. We have seen this song and dance already many times. A biological male that is nothing in men’s league become a star of women’s league in physical sports. It’s why there is women’s and men’s divisions to begin with otherwise they would all have been playing together from the start. The compromise between peoples beliefs would be a transgender league. They don’t want that cause I suspect people know it prob won’t make any money but if we want fair that would be the fair compromise. That way you’re taking all women’s feelings into account also and not just transgender people. How can’t people see that if this is allowed to continue the way it is biological women’s sports will be over. It will be overtaken by males pretending to be females.
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Post by fetchin on Dec 14, 2023 13:58:00 GMT -5
Perfect example of progressive liberal bullying that goes on especially on this board. Then you screamed for the moderators as if you’re the ones being victimized. Such a coward. What did you expect? They know they can't defend the indefensible, so they immediately resort to the ad hominem fallacy. It’s comical that these bigots think they spew their hatred and deserve our respect for it.
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Post by trojansc on Dec 14, 2023 13:58:15 GMT -5
I think their better odds are going after an international player with sketchy eligibility. We have seen this song and dance already many times. A biological male that is nothing in men’s league become a star of women’s league in physical sports. It’s why there is women’s and men’s divisions to begin with otherwise they would all have been playing together from the start. The compromise between peoples beliefs would be a transgender league. They don’t want that cause I suspect people know it prob won’t make any money but if we want fair that would be the fair compromise What does that have to do with Sanja? But you’re currently unaware of the most recent P5 trans individual competing in women’s volleyball, I’m assuming?
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Post by stanfordvb on Dec 14, 2023 14:00:40 GMT -5
that article is so disrespectful but what I will say about this :
im a college aged man who was an above average club volleyball player in highschool. I was a setter from 12s-18s. my freshman year of college I walked into the reigning womens national champions gym where I was asked to be a practice player. These girls were MUCH better compared to their peers than I was to mine obviously. I was not out here getting top 10 offers in highshcool lol. However, as someone who had never once been trained as a hitter, I was able to score at will from day 1 in that gym as an 18 year old. I could hit the ball harder, serve faster, and never lost a single joust.
This isn't to try to brag on myself, as I said I was nothing more than what was considered a 'pretty good' boys club vb player. I also had a trans girl who played middle on my club team. She would, without a doubt, absolutely roof the life out of any player in womens ncaa today and nobody would be able to block her. She has even said herself that it would be completely unfair for her to play in an ncaa women's team.
Also before anyone says anything I wanna be clear that I have nothing but love for the trans community and this girl was and still is one of my closest friends^. That's just my take and experience with this stuff
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Post by sec.scoob on Dec 14, 2023 14:02:11 GMT -5
I think their better odds are going after an international player with sketchy eligibility. We have seen this song and dance already many times. A biological male that is nothing in men’s league become a star of women’s league in physical sports. It’s why there is women’s and men’s divisions to begin with otherwise they would all have been playing together from the start. The compromise between peoples beliefs would be a transgender league. They don’t want that cause I suspect people know it prob won’t make any money but if we want fair that would be the fair compromise. That way you’re taking all women’s feelings into account also and not just transgender people. How can’t people see that if this is allowed to continue the way it is biological women’s sports will be over. It will be overtaken by males pretending to be females. Many times? This seems like a stretch. I don't think if you can count it on two hands it would be "many times."
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2023 14:04:23 GMT -5
that article is so disrespectful but what I will say about this : im a college aged man who was an above average club volleyball player in highschool. I was a setter from 12s-18s. my freshman year of college I walked into the reigning womens national champions gym where I was asked to be a practice player. These girls were MUCH better compared to their peers than I was to mine obviously. I was not out here getting top 10 offers in highshcool lol. However, as someone who had never once been trained as a hitter, I was able to score at will from day 1 in that gym as an 18 year old. I could hit the ball harder, serve faster, and never lost a single joust. This isn't to try to brag on myself, as I said I was nothing more than what was considered a 'pretty good' boys club vb player. I also had a trans girl who played middle on my club team. She would, without a doubt, absolutely roof the life out of any player in womens ncaa today and nobody would be able to block her. She has even said herself that it would be completely unfair for her to play on an ncaa women's team. Also before anyone says anything I wanna be clear that I have nothing but love for the trans community and this girl was and still is one of my closest friends^. That's just my take and experience with this stuff They’re based transgender people. Look at Jenner who even said biological males competing in women’s sports is wrong.
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Post by houstonbear15 on Dec 14, 2023 14:05:21 GMT -5
Statements like this are often used as way to argue against gender affirming care. Research and data shows that individuals who receive top surgery (masectomies) are overwhelmingly satisfied with their decision and very very few regret their decision to have surgery. Many medical centers have guidelines in place to ensure that the risk of regret remains low. There is a long process that can ultimately lead to surgery, and by the time that point is reached, surgery has been on the mind of the individual for a very long time. When it comes to chldren, it is better to err on the side of caution. I don't know what is so damn hard to understand about that. And there are guidelines/common practices in place that do just that. It just sounds like you need to do more research about gender affirming care before making such brash statements.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2023 14:10:38 GMT -5
Society will keep unraveling into more and more chaos if we ignore facts for feelings. Something will always hurt someone else’s feelings. If we cancel everything that’s hurts someone else’s feelings life itself would be cancelled. People need to toughen their minds. Weak minds lead to controlled minds. How so many are oblivious to this is mind blowing. People have been brainwashed by the education system. Most education doesn’t teach people to lead it teaches them to follow. People need to stop listening to everything they hear and open their eyes to everything they see
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Dec 14, 2023 14:15:02 GMT -5
that article is so disrespectful but what I will say about this : im a college aged man who was an above average club volleyball player in highschool. I was a setter from 12s-18s. my freshman year of college I walked into the reigning womens national champions gym where I was asked to be a practice player. These girls were MUCH better compared to their peers than I was to mine obviously. I was not out here getting top 10 offers in highshcool lol. However, as someone who had never once been trained as a hitter, I was able to score at will from day 1 in that gym as an 18 year old. I could hit the ball harder, serve faster, and never lost a single joust. This isn't to try to brag on myself, as I said I was nothing more than what was considered a 'pretty good' boys club vb player. I also had a trans girl who played middle on my club team. She would, without a doubt, absolutely roof the life out of any player in womens ncaa today and nobody would be able to block her. She has even said herself that it would be completely unfair for her to play on an ncaa women's team. Also before anyone says anything I wanna be clear that I have nothing but love for the trans community and this girl was and still is one of my closest friends^. That's just my take and experience with this stuff Did your friend go through “male puberty”? I think the argument a lot make, is that it makes a difference. I looked at some of Tate’s highlight reels and I didn’t see an overwhelmingly dominant performance. I’ve seen many XX volleyball players crush a ball harder and make better plays at the net than Tate did. Of course that’s not really the issue, but I don’t think anyone has to fear being hurt on the court because of Tate’s swings.
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Post by B1GHuskerGuy on Dec 14, 2023 14:15:55 GMT -5
It's giving Holiday gatherings with the extended family
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Post by mapuan on Dec 14, 2023 14:22:03 GMT -5
This is so wrong. Another real woman losing a scholarship from a biological man.
NCAA must put a stop to this. The feelings of the majority is far more important than the feelings of minority.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2023 14:25:16 GMT -5
This is so wrong. Another real woman losing a scholarship from a biological man. NCAA must put a stop to this. The feelings of the majority is far more important than the feelings of minority. I get what you’re saying but to be consistent, it shouldn’t be about feeling but just common sense. But yes if they want to make it about feelings that everyone’s feelings should be considered. Not just one group. All this nonsense was manufactured intentionally to drive people apart. United we stand , divided we fall. Men vs women , black vs white , liberals vs democrats, pro Israel vs pro Palestine. Why can’t people see they are being manipulated into the destruction of society so the rich elite can build it back in their image which always leads to everything that will benefit them first. We have to accept and respect differences not attack eachother cause we have different views. That is allowed. Freedom of thought. Peoples minds have never been changed through force. That has never worked. People can be feared in silence which has been done over and over but your never gonna change what someone thinks through force
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Post by houstonbear15 on Dec 14, 2023 14:26:46 GMT -5
You do realize a lot of the children you’re portending to care so deeply about end up killing themselves before they reach that sacred state of adulthood in which you’re ready to trust their judgment. Like a lot a lot. Actually, I don't trust the judgement of adults who are mentally ill, in this case afflicted with Gender Identity Disorder or gender dysphoria. Those children are not killing themselves because they aren't getting puberty blockers. They are killing themselves because they are suffering from severe mental illness. I think you are confusing "portend" with "pretend". Actually, there is no pretense in my position. I don't particularly like to be around children. In fact, I usually avoid them. However, I sure as hell am opposed to harming them. Someone has to protect them, and it sure as hell won't be some sick, twisted **** like you. So what are your suggestions for tending to mental health around gender identity that actually produces lowered rates of depression and suicidality? I can suggest many many different things with proven data of contributing to lower rates of suicide attempts, suicide ideation, depression, anxiety and substance abuse for gender diverse individuals, but would love any evidence based practices you think are better for increasing mental health than gender affirming care.
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Post by staticb on Dec 14, 2023 14:35:10 GMT -5
that article is so disrespectful but what I will say about this : im a college aged man who was an above average club volleyball player in highschool. I was a setter from 12s-18s. my freshman year of college I walked into the reigning womens national champions gym where I was asked to be a practice player. These girls were MUCH better compared to their peers than I was to mine obviously. I was not out here getting top 10 offers in highshcool lol. However, as someone who had never once been trained as a hitter, I was able to score at will from day 1 in that gym as an 18 year old. I could hit the ball harder, serve faster, and never lost a single joust. This isn't to try to brag on myself, as I said I was nothing more than what was considered a 'pretty good' boys club vb player. I also had a trans girl who played middle on my club team. She would, without a doubt, absolutely roof the life out of any player in womens ncaa today and nobody would be able to block her. She has even said herself that it would be completely unfair for her to play on an ncaa women's team. Also before anyone says anything I wanna be clear that I have nothing but love for the trans community and this girl was and still is one of my closest friends^. That's just my take and experience with this stuff I know one really amazing players who were then male and was able to transition after their playing days. I'm not going to lie, I was excited to think that we our chances of winning $$$ in coed tourneys was going to be greater because now she could enter as a female and it would be like having 4 guys after the team. Once she began taking hormone therapies though her body wasn't the same. She couldn't jump as high or hit as hard, she eventually quit the sport because she was unable to come to terms that she was nowhere near as good as she used to be. Yes a guy going into a women's gym on Day 1 is going to be better as a woman than if he was a man, but that's not what going to happen in volleyball. The height thing is a fair point, but people insinuating she's going to hit as hard or jump as a high as if she were herself as a male is not true. Just look at her videos, she's good but not out of this world.
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Dec 14, 2023 14:50:45 GMT -5
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