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Post by trojansc on Dec 14, 2023 19:09:09 GMT -5
Interesting. Then why haven't the other trans athletes at the P5 level been pointed out. You. can't. tell. They’re not being exposed at the press but I think they should. That's funny - if a 3rd grader could tell, you'd think the people who write these articles could tell too. Unless their intelligence is lower than a 3rd grader - which could be possible!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2023 19:09:18 GMT -5
someone who can't figure out their & they're has somehow figured out gender identity. great. Ah when no valid argument , always the grammar police to try and invalidate the whole idea of something over that.
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Post by Fight On! on Dec 14, 2023 19:09:18 GMT -5
I address trans people by their preferred first names/proper nouns. If they bothered enough to correct me with their preferred pronouns then I know they’re woke. This “identification” has been used by sex offenders to violate locker rooms. Safety is more important than mentally unstable showoffs who may or may not have sexual abuse on their minds. Virtually all abuse is carried out by a family member, or someone known to the individual closely. Instances of abuse by a stranger are rare. Are you insinuating that there should be male and female bathrooms and everyone’s home? Or maybe no women should ever be allowed to be near their male family members, or any other men that they know?
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Post by trojansc on Dec 14, 2023 19:09:34 GMT -5
Cmon, even a 3rd grader could tell. People always like to use the smallest percentage of people who may pass for what they are trying to get across to validate the argument. Never a majority but a minuscule percentage Isn't that what you're doing re: trans individuals and bathroom sex crimes?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2023 19:10:37 GMT -5
This “identification” has been used by sex offenders to violate locker rooms. Safety is more important than mentally unstable showoffs who may or may not have sexual abuse on their minds. Virtually all abuse is carried out by a family member, or someone known to the individual closely. Instances of abuse by a stranger are rare. Are you insinuating that there should be male and female bathrooms and everyone’s home? Or maybe no women should ever be allowed to be near their male family members, or any other men that they know? That’s such an extreme argument. Come on. If that’s the route you want to go it opens it up to all kinds of very extreme stuff and that’s never ending
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Post by Fight On! on Dec 14, 2023 19:11:48 GMT -5
I just don't think you've made your point clear enough. Are you saying people should use bathrooms that are their current assigned sex, sex at birth, how they present, or what? Their biological sexes. I don’t care what people think about my beliefs. I’m entitled to them and to me they’re only two sexes. Males and females. Males can’t just decide to be females and vice versa so they are. That’s not how it works. Find me a biological male that has ever given birth to a child or biological males no matter hormone therapy or surgery or whatever that menstruates. This whole Idea that people can choose to be women cause they want to be is nonsense. If they want to believe that it’s fine but don’t push it on me. People should live whatever life that makes them happy. That’s on them. But trying to force it on others is something completely different. Wait, so women who don’t give birth or menstruate aren’t actually women?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2023 19:12:58 GMT -5
Their biological sexes. I don’t care what people think about my beliefs. I’m entitled to them and to me they’re only two sexes. Males and females. Males can’t just decide to be females and vice versa so they are. That’s not how it works. Find me a biological male that has ever given birth to a child or biological males no matter hormone therapy or surgery or whatever that menstruates. This whole Idea that people can choose to be women cause they want to be is nonsense. If they want to believe that it’s fine but don’t push it on me. People should live whatever life that makes them happy. That’s on them. But trying to force it on others is something completely different. Wait, so women who don’t give birth or menstruate aren’t actually women? That’s not what I said. I said only biological women are capable of those things Can a biological women have something that causes her to not have menstruation or give birth , sure but it’s only biological women that are capable of that
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Post by donut on Dec 14, 2023 19:13:37 GMT -5
You're right. Assuming you're even telling the truth, it's a big problem for the rest of us! You mean “your people”?
No, but your question continues to demonstrate my point.
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Post by Fight On! on Dec 14, 2023 19:14:41 GMT -5
Virtually all abuse is carried out by a family member, or someone known to the individual closely. Instances of abuse by a stranger are rare. Are you insinuating that there should be male and female bathrooms and everyone’s home? Or maybe no women should ever be allowed to be near their male family members, or any other men that they know? That’s such an extreme argument. Come on. If that’s the route you want to go it opens it up to all kinds of very extreme stuff and that’s never ending Facts are facts. A woman is more likely to be abused by a relative than a stranger. We need to keep women away from relatives, clearly.
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Post by raian13 on Dec 14, 2023 19:15:25 GMT -5
They’re not being exposed at the press but I think they should. That's funny - if a 3rd grader could tell, you'd think the people who write these articles could tell too. Unless their intelligence is lower than a 3rd grader - which could be possible! are you saying that if a transgender volleyball athlete joins a women’s program and was not noticed thus not exposed to the media, that it should be okay and allowed? The point is people want to play in sports that they will have huge physical advantages. That is like doping or using steroids. That is clearly cheating.
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Post by trojansc on Dec 14, 2023 19:16:57 GMT -5
That's funny - if a 3rd grader could tell, you'd think the people who write these articles could tell too. Unless their intelligence is lower than a 3rd grader - which could be possible! are you saying that if a transgender volleyball athlete joins a women’s program and was not noticed thus not exposed to the media, that it should be okay and allowed? I thought you were talking about 3rd graders always being able to identify trans individuals. IDK where the conversation changed?
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Post by houstonbear15 on Dec 14, 2023 19:23:48 GMT -5
Every day I realize more and more people are just not decent human beings, and this is not tied to a “belief”. What’s considered decent? People can only feel hurt or angry or sad or happy or whatever if they allow themselves to feel that way. Nobody else can make someone feel anyway they don’t want to feel without that persons permission. Their is always a choice. Much of it is mental stability. It’s why I say people have to be stronger mentally. You can’t make anyone do anything without their permission. We need to stop basing all decisions on feelings. People need to take responsibility for their own mental state and stop this victimhood mentality. People today let words affect their lives way too much. Everyone on this planet can claim to be a victim of something in life. That’s why it’s a ridiculous mentality to entertain I am pretty sure that's what people like Tate and others who seek gender affirming care are doing... Tate was living her life, tending to her mental health, and progressing towards happiness because she had taken responsibility. No one is a victim until they are made to feel that way. LGBTQ+ people do not face challenges simply because they are LGBTQ+. They face challenges due to the violence, discrimination, and bias enacted by other people, institutions, and systems.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2023 19:25:50 GMT -5
That’s such an extreme argument. Come on. If that’s the route you want to go it opens it up to all kinds of very extreme stuff and that’s never ending Facts are facts. A woman is more likely to be abused by a relative than a stranger. We need to keep women away from relatives, clearly. . Absolutely preposterous. Do people get abused by their family sometimes. Yeah. But I’m not participating in this extreme take. There’s a fair solution. Just make a gender neutral restroom and people who choose to be that go in willingly not affecting others who may be uncomfortable with having biological males in their lockeroom. Fairness should be for all not just one group. Trans can go in the gender neutral bathroom or their biological sex. They have two option.
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Post by Fight On! on Dec 14, 2023 19:26:59 GMT -5
Facts are facts. A woman is more likely to be abused by a relative than a stranger. We need to keep women away from relatives, clearly. . Absolutely preposterous. Do people get abused by their family sometimes. Yeah. But I’m not participating in this extreme take. There’s a fair solution. Just make a gender neutral restroom and people who choose to be that go in willingly not affecting others who may be uncomfortable with having biological males in their lockeroom. Fairness should be for all not just one group. Trans can go in the gender neutral bathroom or their biological sex. They have two option. So you’re putting a men’s restroom, a women’s, restroom, and a gender neutral restroom in your house?
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Post by raian13 on Dec 14, 2023 19:27:02 GMT -5
are you saying that if a transgender volleyball athlete joins a women’s program and was not noticed thus not exposed to the media, that it should be okay and allowed? I thought you were talking about 3rd graders always being able to identify trans individuals. IDK where the conversation changed? That was in response to your previous inquiry about trans females who look like males using women’s restrooms. A trans female that looks like a male will still show resemblance of a female just from looks. Pliny is nobody would throw a fit for seeing a trans female in a woman restroom. Same goes to seeing a trans male with full on long hairs, long nails, etc using a men’s restroom. Cmon nobody can hide an adam’s apple.
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