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Post by raian13 on Dec 14, 2023 19:27:46 GMT -5
. Absolutely preposterous. Do people get abused by their family sometimes. Yeah. But I’m not participating in this extreme take. There’s a fair solution. Just make a gender neutral restroom and people who choose to be that go in willingly not affecting others who may be uncomfortable with having biological males in their lockeroom. Fairness should be for all not just one group. Trans can go in the gender neutral bathroom or their biological sex. They have two option. So you’re putting a men’s restroom, a women’s, restroom, and a gender neutral restroom in your house? LOL. No two strangers have ever shared a restroom in a private residence.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2023 19:29:16 GMT -5
What’s considered decent? People can only feel hurt or angry or sad or happy or whatever if they allow themselves to feel that way. Nobody else can make someone feel anyway they don’t want to feel without that persons permission. Their is always a choice. Much of it is mental stability. It’s why I say people have to be stronger mentally. You can’t make anyone do anything without their permission. We need to stop basing all decisions on feelings. People need to take responsibility for their own mental state and stop this victimhood mentality. People today let words affect their lives way too much. Everyone on this planet can claim to be a victim of something in life. That’s why it’s a ridiculous mentality to entertain I am pretty sure that's what people like Tate and others who seek gender affirming care are doing... Tate was living her life, tending to her mental health, and progressing towards happiness because she had taken responsibility. No one is a victim until they are made to feel that way. LGBTQ+ people do not face challenges simply because they are LGBTQ+. They face challenges due to the violence, discrimination, and bias enacted by other people, institutions, and systems. . I disagree. Are their gonna be Bully’s sometimes sure. I think most people use to not care of someone wanted to play another sex. The problems came when people started feeling forced to go along with something they didn’t personally believe in and that had the opposite effect of making more people dislike those people.
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Post by trojansc on Dec 14, 2023 19:30:00 GMT -5
I thought you were talking about 3rd graders always being able to identify trans individuals. IDK where the conversation changed? That was in response to your previous inquiry about trans females who look like males using women’s restrooms. A trans female that looks like a male will still show resemblance of a female just from looks. Pliny is nobody would throw a fit for seeing a trans female in a woman restroom. Same goes to seeing a trans male with full on long hairs, long nails, etc using a men’s restroom. Cmon nobody can hide an adam’s apple. Are you seriously a medical professional? Adam's apples are NOT always visible (and could also be covered up!). And your comments re: bathroom violence are not well-informed either. I wonder if your perspectives are based on sheltered experiences.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2023 19:30:23 GMT -5
. Absolutely preposterous. Do people get abused by their family sometimes. Yeah. But I’m not participating in this extreme take. There’s a fair solution. Just make a gender neutral restroom and people who choose to be that go in willingly not affecting others who may be uncomfortable with having biological males in their lockeroom. Fairness should be for all not just one group. Trans can go in the gender neutral bathroom or their biological sex. They have two option. So you’re putting a men’s restroom, a women’s, restroom, and a gender neutral restroom in your house? Stop with the house stuff. I’m Not getting into that insanity with you. Let’s forget that house bathrooms usually are used by one person at a time. Public restrooms are normally multiple that can be in their at once. Not the same thing. Stop trying to correlate those somehow . You want to have all public restrooms that are built for solo use fine but until then these two do not correlate
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Post by Fight On! on Dec 14, 2023 19:31:43 GMT -5
So you’re putting a men’s restroom, a women’s, restroom, and a gender neutral restroom in your house? LOL. No two strangers have ever shared a restroom in a private residence. Who’s talking about strangers? And this also isn’t remotely true. Have you never been to a party?
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Post by houstonbear15 on Dec 14, 2023 19:32:40 GMT -5
I address trans people by their preferred first names/proper nouns. If they bothered enough to correct me with their preferred pronouns then I know they’re woke. This “identification” has been used by sex offenders to violate locker rooms. Safety is more important than mentally unstable showoffs who may or may not have sexual abuse on their minds. This is a red herring that has often been debunked. This is just added to the list of identity groups who have been deemed to be predators for political gain. There is no evidence or data to suggest that trans-inclusive bathroom policies leads to increased safety risk for others. It's just not true, and a very ignorant argument to make.
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Post by Fight On! on Dec 14, 2023 19:33:08 GMT -5
So you’re putting a men’s restroom, a women’s, restroom, and a gender neutral restroom in your house? Stop with the house stuff. I’m Not getting into that insanity with you. Let’s forget that house bathrooms usually are used by one person at a time. Public restrooms are normally multiple that can be in their at once. Not the same thing. Stop trying to correlate those somehow Does most abuse of women happen in public or in private homes? I bet a bathroom in a house is way more dangerous to a girl/woman than a public bathroom.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2023 19:35:15 GMT -5
LOL. No two strangers have ever shared a restroom in a private residence. Who’s talking about strangers? And this also isn’t remotely true. Have you never been to a party? You are taking the most ridiculous specific extreme takes. First you want to argue a house with family members and then a party in the house with strangers. Just stop. First off most abuse in a house has nothing to do with bathroom. Most sexual abuse takes place in a bedroom. Stop with this insanity
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Post by raian13 on Dec 14, 2023 19:35:33 GMT -5
That was in response to your previous inquiry about trans females who look like males using women’s restrooms. A trans female that looks like a male will still show resemblance of a female just from looks. Pliny is nobody would throw a fit for seeing a trans female in a woman restroom. Same goes to seeing a trans male with full on long hairs, long nails, etc using a men’s restroom. Cmon nobody can hide an adam’s apple. Are you seriously a medical professional? Adam's apples are NOT always visible (and could also be covered up!). And your comments re: bathroom violence are not well-informed either. I wonder if your perspectives are based on sheltered experiences. Trust me it’s easy to spot adam’s apple from a medical perspective. I didn’t bring up any bathroom violence. My response is solely based on transgender appearances only.
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Post by raian13 on Dec 14, 2023 19:37:34 GMT -5
Who’s talking about strangers? And this also isn’t remotely true. Have you never been to a party? You are taking the most ridiculous specific extreme takes. First you want to argue a house with family members and then a party in the house with strangers. Just stop. First off most abuse in a house has nothing to do with bathroom. Most sexual abuse takes place in a bedroom. Stop with this insanity exactly. i don’t really know what he’s getting at. the concept is very simple.
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Dec 14, 2023 19:37:35 GMT -5
Ooof at that article... I am still unsure about how best to navigate the transgender athlete situation, where they should play etc, as I have not done enough research. But this article is SO clearly trasnphobic, they cant even use the correct pronouns Shame on this article and you for sharing it Regardless of your opinions on where they should play, what criteria needs to be met, hormones, surgery etc, the least you can do is be respectful about someone’s pronouns It's funny when people get accused of using the incorrect pronouns when they are actually using the correct pronouns. It's like how literally has come to literally mean figuratively.
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Post by JT on Dec 14, 2023 19:41:19 GMT -5
Are you seriously a medical professional? Adam's apples are NOT always visible (and could also be covered up!). And your comments re: bathroom violence are not well-informed either. I wonder if your perspectives are based on sheltered experiences. Trust me it’s easy to spot adam’s apple from a medical perspective. I didn’t bring up any bathroom violence. My response is solely based on transgender appearances only. Not all cis-gender males have Adam’s Apples. Not all cis-gender females lack them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2023 19:41:55 GMT -5
You are taking the most ridiculous specific extreme takes. First you want to argue a house with family members and then a party in the house with strangers. Just stop. First off most abuse in a house has nothing to do with bathroom. Most sexual abuse takes place in a bedroom. Stop with this insanity exactly. i don’t really know what he’s getting at. the concept is very simple. Yea. Most sexual abuse that takes place in a home is in the bedroom not bathroom. Bathrooms in homes are usually ment for single person use. Can you get more then one person at a time in there, sure but most houses have locks on their doors where they can lock if the don’t want anyone else in where group public restrooms anyone can just walk in Home and public is not the same thing which is why I didn’t even want to get into this nonsense
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Post by trojansc on Dec 14, 2023 19:42:09 GMT -5
Who’s talking about strangers? And this also isn’t remotely true. Have you never been to a party? You are taking the most ridiculous specific extreme takes. First you want to argue a house with family members and then a party in the house with strangers. Just stop. First off most abuse in a house has nothing to do with bathroom. Most sexual abuse takes place in a bedroom. Stop with this insanity There's so much irony here. You were talking about having to protect women re: sex crimes in the bathroom. Trans individuals are *very* likely to experience harassment in the bathroom, whereas crimes committed by trans individuals in bathroom's is VERY rare. Have any data you'd like to share to support otherwise? It looks like you're arguing in the extreme.
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Post by vbnerd on Dec 14, 2023 19:44:08 GMT -5
So you’re putting a men’s restroom, a women’s, restroom, and a gender neutral restroom in your house? LOL. No two strangers have ever shared a restroom in a private residence. You don't go to the right parties! * This is not referring to political parties. This is not a political post. There is no political statement being made. It's just a joke about who you may pee next to at college house parties or even some really good post college house parties.
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