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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2023 20:08:59 GMT -5
So, you don't know why the scientific and medical consensus on transgenderism is wrong. You just don't like it. Thanks for confirming. So science specialist and medical specialist can’t lie to push an agenda. That’s not possible? Come on. We saw it all throughout covid |
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Post by Fight On! on Dec 20, 2023 20:14:16 GMT -5
I think you’re missing a huge point here. What if a male decides to transition right during his senior year? Do you really think this is fair? I get that you’re trying to use some research but let’s be logical here. A person deciding to transition during senior year would not be eligible to compete in the women’s division until the criteria are met, which usually takes a couple of years. The criteria have been made available several times via a link on this thread. If you had reviewed the criteria, you wouldn’t ask a question like your “what if” which shows you are making arguments without knowing the basic facts. |
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Post by molokaiboi on Dec 20, 2023 20:17:12 GMT -5
I think you’re missing a huge point here. What if a male decides to transition right during his senior year? Do you really think this is fair? I get that you’re trying to use some research but let’s be logical here. A person deciding to transition during senior year would not be eligible to compete in the women’s division until the criteria are met, which usually takes a couple of years. The criteria have been made available several times via a link on this thread. If you had reviewed the criteria, you wouldn’t ask a question like your “what if” which shows you are making arguments without knowing the basic facts. Even if a person decides to transition his junior year, if I was a parent, I would not allow my daughter to compete against a transgender. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2023 20:18:43 GMT -5
A person deciding to transition during senior year would not be eligible to compete in the women’s division until the criteria are met, which usually takes a couple of years. The criteria have been made available several times via a link on this thread. If you had reviewed the criteria, you wouldn’t ask a question like your “what if” which shows you are making arguments without knowing the basic facts. Even if a person decides to transition his junior year, if I was a parent, I would not allow my daughter to compete against a transgender. That’s the thing. If enough women decide this it would end. You would have no one to compete against. |
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Post by molokaiboi on Dec 20, 2023 20:22:23 GMT -5
Even if a person decides to transition his junior year, if I was a parent, I would not allow my daughter to compete against a transgender. That’s the thing. If enough women decide this it would end. You would have no one to compete against. 😑 We’d have to change the forum into a Trans-Woman/Women/girls volleyball forum. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2023 20:23:58 GMT -5
That’s the thing. If enough women decide this it would end. You would have no one to compete against. 😑 We’d have to change the forum into a Trans-Woman/Women/girls volleyball forum. I don’t care if they want to have a transgender league. I’d concede that to keep woman’s league biological women. I personally don’t think it would last cause not enough people would watch it hence infiltrating the women’s league |
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Post by molokaiboi on Dec 20, 2023 20:24:47 GMT -5
😑 We’d have to change the forum into a Trans-Woman/Women/girls volleyball forum. I don’t care if they want to have a transgender league. I’d concede that to keep woman’s league biological women. I’m for it too but leave the biological women alone. |
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Post by mikegarrison on Dec 20, 2023 20:26:02 GMT -5
There is a lot of essentialism that many people feel about this subject. They just feel like boys are boys and girls are girls, and while they may not really be able to exactly define what makes a boy a boy or a girl a girl, they feel it is simply not possible to switch. Because essentialism.
It's like Ship Of Theseus, a ship that over the years has had the sails replaced, and then the masts, and then the hull -- no single part now on the ship was on it when it was new, but somehow they feel like it is the same ship.
Ironically, many transgendered people also feel like a boy is a boy and a girl is a girl -- but that they are a girl who happens to have the body of a boy or vice versa.
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Post by Fight On! on Dec 20, 2023 20:28:23 GMT -5
A person deciding to transition during senior year would not be eligible to compete in the women’s division until the criteria are met, which usually takes a couple of years. The criteria have been made available several times via a link on this thread. If you had reviewed the criteria, you wouldn’t ask a question like your “what if” which shows you are making arguments without knowing the basic facts. Even if a person decides to transition his junior year, if I was a parent, I would not allow my daughter to compete against a transgender. And if your daughter didn’t care, just like many women don’t? |
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Dec 20, 2023 20:31:04 GMT -5
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Post by luckydawg on Dec 20, 2023 20:37:09 GMT -5
For those who still don't realize that there is already an NCAA policy in place, here it is (again) NCAA Link . This should resolve whatever concerns and questions that have come up in the last 50+ pages. But I know it won't. |
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Post by staticb on Dec 20, 2023 20:45:15 GMT -5
A person deciding to transition during senior year would not be eligible to compete in the women’s division until the criteria are met, which usually takes a couple of years. The criteria have been made available several times via a link on this thread. If you had reviewed the criteria, you wouldn’t ask a question like your “what if” which shows you are making arguments without knowing the basic facts. Even if a person decides to transition his junior year, if I was a parent, I would not allow my daughter to compete against a transgender. So you'd never let your daughter play coed volleyball? |
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Post by n00b on Dec 20, 2023 20:49:25 GMT -5
For those who still don't realize that there is already an NCAA policy in place, here it is (again) NCAA Link . This should resolve whatever concerns and questions that have come up in the last 50+ pages. But I know it won't. Well it doesn’t resolve anything. The debate is what the policy SHOULD be. Although there are obviously some people who aren’t aware of the current NCAA policy. |
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Post by molokaiboi on Dec 20, 2023 20:58:45 GMT -5
Even if a person decides to transition his junior year, if I was a parent, I would not allow my daughter to compete against a transgender. So you'd never let your daughter play coed volleyball? Co-ed and women’s volleyball is two different things in my opinion. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2023 21:00:00 GMT -5
So you'd never let your daughter play coed volleyball? Co-ed and women’s volleyball is two different things in my opinion. Yeah co-ed is a choice. Biological males playing in a women’s league is not a choice for biological women who oppose it besides choosing not to play |
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