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Post by Leftrightapproach on Dec 24, 2023 15:39:04 GMT -5
For what it’s worth, have there been any problems with current transgender athletes in college volleyball?
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Post by Fight On! on Dec 24, 2023 15:42:51 GMT -5
For what it’s worth, have there been any problems with current transgender athletes in college volleyball? Nope. People don’t even know who they are. |
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Post by Fight On! on Dec 24, 2023 15:47:49 GMT -5
That’s not as bad as what some people in this thread have said about the player in question and trans people in general. Oh, here we go again. What has been said that is so horrible about trans people in general? By the way there is a saying that two wrongs don't make a right, ever hear of it? By the way, not sure what you are referring in regards to such bad treatment of transgender folks, but it is perfectly acceptable to object to trans athletes particpating in biological born female sports if it creates an unfair competitive environment or even take scholarships away from same affected athletes. The DEI warriors have slandered people on this thread/forum just for holding an opinion. You seem to ascribe more rights to some people then others judging by your acceptance of crass behavior towards folks merely for holding an opinion. And something that is very reasonable to be concerned about at that!
If you haven’t read all of the posts on this thread, that’s on you. Many, many posters have done a lot more than argue against transwomen’s inclusion in NCAA sports. Several folks aren’t merely holding an opinion and have clearly dipped into POS territory in my opinion. |
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Post by mikegarrison on Dec 24, 2023 17:20:22 GMT -5
A cloak of (at least nominal) anonymity really brings out the ugly side of some people.
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Post by VB48 on Dec 24, 2023 17:22:07 GMT -5
A cloak of (at least nominal) anonymity really brings out the ugly side of some people. You can see this on both sides of the issue |
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Post by Logan Tom Fan on Dec 24, 2023 17:30:23 GMT -5
For what it’s worth, have there been any problems with current transgender athletes in college volleyball? Nope, I believe there was a trans woman playing for a D3 school in California a few years back, who was tall, but needed lots of work on her lateral movement and power. The irony of it all is just that, she had no power, she was just tall. I also feel like if you’re passable as a trans woman, it’s not much of an issue, than if you aren’t. Not trying to be mean or anything in any regards but I know in Hawai’i, there are lots of young, up and coming transgender players, some you can tell and others you can’t. The ones who you can’t tell seem to get less, sometimes no slack at all compared to the ones who aren’t passable. |
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Post by Fight On! on Dec 24, 2023 17:35:27 GMT -5
For what it’s worth, have there been any problems with current transgender athletes in college volleyball? Nope, I believe there was a trans woman playing for a D3 school in California a few years back, who was tall, but needed lots of work on her lateral movement and power. The irony of it all is just that, she had no power, she was just tall. I also feel like if you’re passable as a trans woman, it’s not much of an issue, than if you aren’t. Not trying to be mean or anything in any regards but I know in Hawai’i, there are lots of young, up and coming transgender players, some you can tell and others you can’t. The ones who you can’t tell seem to get less, sometimes no slack at all compared to the ones who aren’t passable. |
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Post by Logan Tom Fan on Dec 24, 2023 17:43:33 GMT -5
Nope, I believe there was a trans woman playing for a D3 school in California a few years back, who was tall, but needed lots of work on her lateral movement and power. The irony of it all is just that, she had no power, she was just tall. I also feel like if you’re passable as a trans woman, it’s not much of an issue, than if you aren’t. Not trying to be mean or anything in any regards but I know in Hawai’i, there are lots of young, up and coming transgender players, some you can tell and others you can’t. The ones who you can’t tell seem to get less, sometimes no slack at all compared to the ones who aren’t passable. Yup, I’ve seen many transgender individuals who were never the same, athletics wise or strength wise, after going on HRT or having GRS or an orchiectomy. Being able to witness so many athletes who started off as males and then transitioned, you see their level of play go down significantly. If they are good after all of that, it’s not because they have power, it’s because they are highly skilled and have kept that with them, even though it’s a much more delayed movement in their actions on the court. |
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Post by houstonbear15 on Dec 24, 2023 17:50:47 GMT -5
Sorry, I disagree. “Trans women” are biological males who have undergone some sort of drug regimen, surgery, or both in an effort to appear more like biological females. We are going to have to agree to disagree. Trans women are trans women. They in fact de-transition back to their original gender even if they cut their thingies. All they need to do is stop the medication. Not all trans people medically transition (use of hormones or surgery). |
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Dec 24, 2023 18:11:21 GMT -5
Herm is a far preferable pronoun to shim. It has similar origins, just her/him instead of she/him. It's already a common name; think Herm Edwards, for example. Plus it doubles as a convenient abbreviation for the word hermaphrodite. It really covers all the bases.
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Post by VB48 on Dec 24, 2023 18:15:04 GMT -5
Nope, I believe there was a trans woman playing for a D3 school in California a few years back, who was tall, but needed lots of work on her lateral movement and power. The irony of it all is just that, she had no power, she was just tall. I also feel like if you’re passable as a trans woman, it’s not much of an issue, than if you aren’t. Not trying to be mean or anything in any regards but I know in Hawai’i, there are lots of young, up and coming transgender players, some you can tell and others you can’t. The ones who you can’t tell seem to get less, sometimes no slack at all compared to the ones who aren’t passable. There are some really good articles about Chloe Psyche Anderson |
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Post by volleyaudience on Jan 6, 2024 18:34:35 GMT -5
This complex subject is not one on which I have great information or insight. I do, however, have one nagging major concern. I read in a medical article about the 30,000 babies each year are misidentified as to sex at birth and are not given DNA testing. I can not imagine the consternation and confusion to a youth or family as they do dna testing and face the truth of gender at 8 years old or fifteen. In my mind, I certainly do not want to be one of those who, without full information, heap mean hateful painful comments and misinformation on these families by lumping all who undergo gender evaluation into one group. I also am glad I am not a person who has to decide that a young female athlete who was misdiagnosed can not play sports or get transition counseling.
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Post by n00b on Jan 6, 2024 18:41:14 GMT -5
This complex subject is not one on which I have great information or insight. I do, however, have one nagging major concern. I read in a medical article about the 30,000 babies each year are misidentified as to sex at birth and are not given DNA testing. I can not imagine the consternation and confusion to a youth or family as they do dna testing and face the truth of gender at 8 years old or fifteen. In my mind, I certainly do not want to be one of those who, without full information, heap mean hateful painful comments and misinformation on these families by lumping all who undergo gender evaluation into one group. I also am glad I am not a person who has to decide that a young female athlete who was misdiagnosed can not play sports or get transition counseling. Is there any reason to believe that is what happened here? |
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Jan 6, 2024 18:47:19 GMT -5
One of these days they're gonna mess with the wrong group of female athletes. It's gonna be all like  |
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Post by bigredhimbo on Jan 6, 2024 19:40:21 GMT -5
I don't know if it will ever happen, or already has?, but with the profile Nebraska volleyball has, any level of support for the LGBTQ community on their social media or interviews would be impactful. They likely want to stay out of these debates in both statements and recruiting, but I wonder how the Nebraska staff and team stand on the matter (edit: and more broadly, anything in that field of discussion really).
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