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Post by uofaGRAD on Dec 22, 2023 0:43:33 GMT -5
I am curious if anyone has actually talked about this. What did the Texan do to serve two great passing teams right after court. There. has to be more than just good serving.Placement was a definite help but still? I’m not suggesting cheating at all. Quite the opposite. Did they figure something out baseball’s version of a knuckleball. I wouldn’t consider Wisconsin a great passing team and Nebraska is young and collapsed with Texas’ floats. some were dropping, some went deep, some went right on the player. it was fantastic. a bit like a knuckleball like you said! |
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Post by blackiechan1999 on Dec 22, 2023 1:14:30 GMT -5
some of yall are gonna hate this, but if your not sensitive this podcast episode about the natty is so brutally honest and hilarious. similar to football / basketball reporting where they just dont care a couple bad takes, like saying texas serving was normal ncaa women's serving, but overall I found it so funny I didn't like what they said about Swindle. |
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Post by nellynel on Dec 22, 2023 7:50:16 GMT -5
I am curious if anyone has actually talked about this. What did the Texan do to serve two great passing teams right after court. There. has to be more than just good serving.Placement was a definite help but still? I’m not suggesting cheating at all. Quite the opposite. Did they figure something out baseball’s version of a knuckleball. Texas has been defined as a serving and blocking team all season while the offense just slowly got better. Cook said ‘Texas has a couple great servers’, no Texas has 6 good servers that can come at you in waves. Thursday and Sunday just has a tsunami mixed in it. Normally at least a couple of them don’t have great serving games while someone else dialed it up. Against Nebraska all 6 were effective at some point, not all at the same time. I saw a team so focused and coached up of where to attack and they just relentlessly came in waves. In set 1 which set the tone, O’Neal and Swindle were not really effective. But Halter came out the gate applying pressure and getting NU OOS and allowed Texas to go up 4-0. Barnes was effective getting an ace and getting NU OOS. Skinner got an ace and got them OOS leading to a block. Akana wasn’t really effective early but got and ace and got them OOS leading to a transition kill.Skinner scored on 2 of her 4 serves including an ace. In set 2 O’Neal was the star with that run but Nebraska did a better job of passing her serves later in the run. Swindle went off scoring on 5 of her 6 serves including 2 aces and a couple other bad passes. Akana scored on 2 of her 3 serves getting an ace and forcing a bad pass. In set 3, Skinner and O’Neal applied the most pressure but Halter and Barnes also forced less than perfect passes winning over 50 % of their serves. Everyone applied pressure at times and I know I’ve never seen a team apply that kind of pressure consistently to NU all season. And they just didn’t handle it, similar to 2021 although I don’t recall it being so many servers affecting Texas but I could be wrong. The Texas transition offense also dismantled NU. If Wenaas who has struggled all year in transition is hitting close to .300 you are in trouble. And UA is right Wisconsin isn’t a great passing team. It’s been there Achilles heel if you are going to beat them. |
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Post by HOLIDAY on Dec 22, 2023 8:06:30 GMT -5
I am curious if anyone has actually talked about this. What did the Texan do to serve two great passing teams right after court. There. has to be more than just good serving.Placement was a definite help but still? I’m not suggesting cheating at all. Quite the opposite. Did they figure something out baseball’s version of a knuckleball. Texas has been defined as a serving and blocking team all season while the offense just slowly got better. Cook said ‘Texas has a couple great servers’, no Texas has 6 good servers that can come at you in waves. Thursday and Sunday just has a tsunami mixed in it. Normally at least a couple of them don’t have great serving games while someone else dialed it up. Against Nebraska all 6 were effective at some point, not all at the same time. I saw a team so focused and coached up of where to attack and they just relentlessly came in waves. In set 1 which set the tone, O’Neal and Swindle were not really effective. But Halter came out the gate applying pressure and getting NU OOS and allowed Texas to go up 4-0. Barnes was effective getting an ace and getting NU OOS. Skinner got an ace and got them OOS leading to a block. Akana wasn’t really effective early but got and ace and got them OOS leading to a transition kill.Skinner scored on 2 of her 4 serves including an ace. In set 2 O’Neal was the star with that run but Nebraska did a better job of passing her serves later in the run. Swindle went off scoring on 5 of her 6 serves including 2 aces and a couple other bad passes. Akana scored on 2 of her 3 serves getting an ace and forcing a bad pass. In set 3, Skinner and O’Neal applied the most pressure but Halter and Barnes also forced less than perfect passes winning over 50 % of their serves. Everyone applied pressure at times and I know I’ve never seen a team apply that kind of pressure consistently to NU all season. And they just didn’t handle it, similar to 2021 although I don’t recall it being so many servers affecting Texas but I could be wrong. The Texas transition offense also dismantled NU. If Wenaas who has struggled all year in transition is hitting close to .300 you are in trouble. And UA is right Wisconsin isn’t a great passing team. It’s been there Achilles heel if you are going to beat them. I don’t agree, Wisconsin wasn’t a good passing team until the last few years. They’ve actually become pretty darn efficient. Also, you guys had some rough losses. It’s not like that serving game has been in your corner all season. So to say you’ve been a great serving team the entire season is just not true. It was the perfect storm. If you can duplicate that you will continue to win big. But that would be virtually impossible |
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Post by nellynel on Dec 22, 2023 8:15:07 GMT -5
Maybe someone has better stats but I counted 27 transition kills to 7 for Nebraska. Nebraska IMO has been built off passing and floor defense this season. It wasn’t just the passing that broke down. The transition defense was totally dismantled IMO. I get when you’re not passing well and on your back foot it can be hard to get back ahead of the swings but normally they do that better than everyone. Lexi diving to the floor like a full second after a Wenaas kill passed her by was symbolic of the entire night.
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Post by nellynel on Dec 22, 2023 8:22:40 GMT -5
Texas has been defined as a serving and blocking team all season while the offense just slowly got better. Cook said ‘Texas has a couple great servers’, no Texas has 6 good servers that can come at you in waves. Thursday and Sunday just has a tsunami mixed in it. Normally at least a couple of them don’t have great serving games while someone else dialed it up. Against Nebraska all 6 were effective at some point, not all at the same time. I saw a team so focused and coached up of where to attack and they just relentlessly came in waves. In set 1 which set the tone, O’Neal and Swindle were not really effective. But Halter came out the gate applying pressure and getting NU OOS and allowed Texas to go up 4-0. Barnes was effective getting an ace and getting NU OOS. Skinner got an ace and got them OOS leading to a block. Akana wasn’t really effective early but got and ace and got them OOS leading to a transition kill.Skinner scored on 2 of her 4 serves including an ace. In set 2 O’Neal was the star with that run but Nebraska did a better job of passing her serves later in the run. Swindle went off scoring on 5 of her 6 serves including 2 aces and a couple other bad passes. Akana scored on 2 of her 3 serves getting an ace and forcing a bad pass. In set 3, Skinner and O’Neal applied the most pressure but Halter and Barnes also forced less than perfect passes winning over 50 % of their serves. Everyone applied pressure at times and I know I’ve never seen a team apply that kind of pressure consistently to NU all season. And they just didn’t handle it, similar to 2021 although I don’t recall it being so many servers affecting Texas but I could be wrong. The Texas transition offense also dismantled NU. If Wenaas who has struggled all year in transition is hitting close to .300 you are in trouble. And UA is right Wisconsin isn’t a great passing team. It’s been there Achilles heel if you are going to beat them. I don’t agree, Wisconsin wasn’t a good passing team until the last few years. They’ve actually become pretty darn efficient. Also, you guys had some rough losses. It’s not like that serving game has been in your corner all season. So to say you’ve been a great serving team the entire season is just not true. It was the perfect storm. If you can duplicate that you will continue to win big. But that would be virtually impossible I didn’t say we were a great serving team all season, although I think Texas has been in the upper echelon of serving teams. But they have 6 servers that can be really good, normally you don’t see all six be effective at some point in the match. Normally 3-4 of them. This match all 6 dialed it up at some point. It’s hard to apply pressure on every serve. But when your teammates can apply pressure it allows the team service pressure to be relentless, which it was and NU didn’t respond. Wisconsin is so big and physical you almost have to get them OOS to win. And in the games I have seen where they struggled it is the passing that breaks down. |
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Post by nellynel on Dec 22, 2023 8:25:29 GMT -5
Maybe someone has better stats but I counted 27 transition kills to 7 for Nebraska. Nebraska IMO has been built off passing and floor defense this season. It wasn’t just the passing that broke down. The transition defense was totally dismantled IMO. I get when you’re not passing well and in your back foot it can be hard to get back ahead of the swings but normally they do that better than everyone. Lexi diving to the floor like a full second after a Wenaas kill passed her by was symbolic of the entire night. I don’t disagree with that but the Longhorns serve made it all happen. If we didn’t have the Wisconsin game to also judge from, this might be a different story, but to Accomplish both against the two top teams in the nation was extraordinary. It was the perfect storm. But I’ve seen NU have a ruff SR run but the defense is usually good enough to get back ahead of the count and get their own good transition attack. In this case the defense never really allowed them to get back ahead of the count. |
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Post by HOLIDAY on Dec 22, 2023 8:27:55 GMT -5
I don’t disagree with that but the Longhorns serve made it all happen. If we didn’t have the Wisconsin game to also judge from, this might be a different story, but to Accomplish both against the two top teams in the nation was extraordinary. It was the perfect storm. But I’ve seen NU have a ruff SR run but the defense is usually good enough to get back ahead of the count and get their own good transition attack. In this case the defense never really allowed them to get back ahead of the count. I deleted my last post. I pretty much agree with your summation |
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Post by Floyd R. Turbo on Dec 22, 2023 8:56:48 GMT -5
Congratulations to the burnt orange. A dominating performance. Beating three of the four #1 seeds in the tournament is about as good as you can get. I guess all those voters who had them #1 in the pre-season poll knew what they were talking about! There is no team I hate losing to more (hence waiting five days before I post so I don't say something I'll regret) but they were outstanding in all facets of the game Sunday.
Props to the Huskers for a great ride this year. It didn't end the way I hoped but it was still a remarkable season. Already looking forward to the '24 season.
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Post by Disc808 on Dec 22, 2023 9:37:01 GMT -5
some of yall are gonna hate this, but if your not sensitive this podcast episode about the natty is so brutally honest and hilarious. similar to football / basketball reporting where they just dont care a couple bad takes, like saying texas serving was normal ncaa women's serving, but overall I found it so funny I watched part of it, but thought their dismissiveness of float serving was uneducated about the women’s game. There’s a reason why everyone in Karch’s gym float serves, and some are more effective than others They also seemed to say that Texas’ serving was nothing special, it’s just that Nebraska’s freshmen crumbled under the pressure Which doesn’t at all explain why a very experienced Wisconsin team had the exact same trouble with the Texas serve Rob’s takes were overstated. He acknowledged float serves being tough. His standard of comparison was untouchable though , you’re not gonna have Arina or Vargas tier serving in the NCAA. Overall though, I understood a lot of their points. Not saying I agree with all of them, but this being the final four I did not expect that many shanks lol. Obviously Texas served well, but I can’t disagree with the fact that there seemed to be a lot of mental pressure too. |
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Post by nellynel on Dec 22, 2023 9:40:39 GMT -5
I watched part of it, but thought their dismissiveness of float serving was uneducated about the women’s game. There’s a reason why everyone in Karch’s gym float serves, and some are more effective than others They also seemed to say that Texas’ serving was nothing special, it’s just that Nebraska’s freshmen crumbled under the pressure Which doesn’t at all explain why a very experienced Wisconsin team had the exact same trouble with the Texas serve Rob’s takes were overstated. He acknowledged float serves being tough. His standard of comparison was untouchable though , you’re not gonna have Arina or Vargas tier serving in the NCAA. Overall though, I understood a lot of their points. Not saying I agree with all of them, but this being the final four I did not expect that many shanks lol. Obviously Texas served well, but I can’t disagree with the fact that there seemed to be a lot of mental pressure too. Did they make any points that weren’t obvious? I mostly heard grumbling that it wasn’t a good match. |
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Post by Disc808 on Dec 22, 2023 10:00:15 GMT -5
Rob’s takes were overstated. He acknowledged float serves being tough. His standard of comparison was untouchable though , you’re not gonna have Arina or Vargas tier serving in the NCAA. Overall though, I understood a lot of their points. Not saying I agree with all of them, but this being the final four I did not expect that many shanks lol. Obviously Texas served well, but I can’t disagree with the fact that there seemed to be a lot of mental pressure too. Did they make any points that weren’t obvious? I mostly heard grumbling that it wasn’t a good match. A few takes in there about John Cook, they should have changed formations/subs, Final Four teams should have expected tough serving. I don’t remember all of it tbh lol. However, they did agree that this was a great year for the sport in America so the title is only in reference to the actual play |
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Dec 22, 2023 10:24:22 GMT -5
Outside of serve receive, I'd be interested in hearing people's takes on why the Wisconsin and Nebraska liberos/DSes had such off nights defensively. Orzol and Lexi were both surprising non-factors in the semi and finals.
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Post by nellynel on Dec 22, 2023 10:33:40 GMT -5
Outside of serve receive, I'd be interested in hearing people's takes on why the Wisconsin and Nebraska liberos/DSes had such off nights defensively. Orzol and Lexi were both surprising non-factors in the semi and finals.  |
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Post by Resident Bitchy Canadian Fan on Dec 22, 2023 10:52:49 GMT -5
Outside of serve receive, I'd be interested in hearing people's takes on why the Wisconsin and Nebraska liberos/DSes had such off nights defensively. Orzol and Lexi were both surprising non-factors in the semi and finals. Generally, with the tough serving when it wasn’t an ace, it was essentially a downball or free ball from Nebraska that Texas had to transition on. Unfortunately we as a program don’t play aggressive oos, so anytime we were OOS you could essentially count on a 1/2 speer roll shot coming over. Since the balls they were digging were much easier shots at times, that could allow the Texas offense to get better looks/swings. Whereas Nebraska was forced to dig hard swings the whole match (mentality + confidence play a role here). Skinner also just is that that player is hard to dig when she bypasses the block lol. Long story short, I think the defense struggled bc the serve receive breakdown was so large that it gave Texas infinitely better looks on offense due to easier transiton opportunities where it was just bombs away from Skinner. |
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