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Post by hopefuldawg on Jun 3, 2024 14:39:20 GMT -5
The setter situation is so strange right now. Are they playing Poulter a lot this VNL to get her up to speed and shake the rust off? Or to better assess what her limitations are in her current condition. I don't have a clue what Karch will do. Since the last quad I haven't been that hopeful of Carlini being called up. I'm reading between the lines here, but my sense from listening to Carlini's interviews over the last year or so is that her body is really beaten up. She intimated in one interview that this quad will be her last attempt at the Olympics because of the cost to her body. The move to Madison may make the mental side of dealing with the physical cost easier, and get her started developing a new role in volleyball that is less physically demanding. That said, Carlini does not have a big brace on one peg. Poulter is clearly limited in her movement, which makes staying in system a bit harder, offsetting her advantage. The question is whether they take both Poulter and Carlini in some capacity. Hancock being healthy has to go to Paris, I think. What I took away from his interview with Volleyball Source was they've seen Hancock and Carlini play full pro seasons to include in their evaluations. Poulter hasn't, so they wanted her to play more than the other 2 to have more gameplay of hers to assess.
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Post by beboprocksteady on Jun 3, 2024 15:31:46 GMT -5
I don’t think Carlini will go to Paris. Karch had the same choice 4 years ago and picked Poulter and Hancock. I thought Poulter looked mid throughout the VNL. She could make great sets at times, but has no vision with the middles and can’t do a darn thing to get Plummer going even though Plummer might be the most dominant hitter on the team. I also thought her gimp knee caused several defensive lapses. That said, I didn’t think Carlini did enough to make Karch change his mind when she played in week 1.
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Post by vbdiva on Jun 3, 2024 17:16:27 GMT -5
I would love if Karch put the best 7-8 players together and stopped playing musical chairs with the lineups. With the 7-8 players likely to make the Paris team, put Carlini and Poulter to battle it out for a few weeks, head-to-head, and see who is more successful on an even playing field.
We cannot win with Hancock setting, especially if she is to replace Poulter in Paris because of an injury. Karch loves Hancock for some reason; she won't be left off the roster.
Can Poulter or Carlini be listed as one of the two alternates? (do they still allow for two alternates at the games?)
What I've observed:
* Poulter has won a Gold Medal, and Karch and teammates like her and respect and trust her.
* Carlini, although I believe she may be the best pure setter on the team, is not liked too much by teammates, and Karch still has doubts about her dating back to the 2020 games (2021).
* Hancock is a solid setter; I'm not sure she can run a 5-1 at her size and give us a chance at the podium. She can quickly fill in as a serving specialist or back-row defender/backup setter, so I think her position on the Pairs roster is solid.
* A few players will have their say on who their setter should be; Karch will listen to them, with the governor (Larson) as the main voice. For this reason, I give Poulter the nod.
* Carlini is the better defender of all the setters.
* Calini is extremely intense and a type-A athlete/personality. If she were Russian, Polish, or Croatian, she would be the prototypical quarterback for those countries. Unfortunately for her, she is American and part of the Kiraly coaching era, which has members of the NT motivated by simple things such as listening to music during practice, having optional weight training days, and having themed weekly costume practices.
GO USA!
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Post by taxidea on Jun 3, 2024 17:37:21 GMT -5
I would love if Karch put the best 7-8 players together and stopped playing musical chairs with the lineups. With the 7-8 players likely to make the Paris team, put Carlini and Poulter to battle it out for a few weeks, head-to-head, and see who is more successful on an even playing field. We cannot win with Hancock setting, especially if she is to replace Poulter in Paris because of an injury. Karch loves Hancock for some reason; she won't be left off the roster. Can Poulter or Carlini be listed as one of the two alternates? (do they still allow for two alternates at the games?) What I've observed: * Poulter has won a Gold Medal, and Karch and teammates like her and respect and trust her. * Carlini, although I believe she may be the best pure setter on the team, is not liked too much by teammates, and Karch still has doubts about her dating back to the 2020 games (2021). * Hancock is a solid setter; I'm not sure she can run a 5-1 at her size and give us a chance at the podium. She can quickly fill in as a serving specialist or back-row defender/backup setter, so I think her position on the Pairs roster is solid. * A few players will have their say on who their setter should be; Karch will listen to them, with the governor (Larson) as the main voice. For this reason, I give Poulter the nod. * Carlini is the better defender of all the setters. * Calini is extremely intense and a type-A athlete/personality. If she were Russian, Polish, or Croatian, she would be the prototypical quarterback for those countries. Unfortunately for her, she is American and part of the Kiraly coaching era, which has members of the NT motivated by simple things such as listening to music during practice, having optional weight training days, and having themed weekly costume practices. GO USA! This.
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Post by ndodge on Jun 3, 2024 18:43:47 GMT -5
A part of me certainly really wants Carlini to be selected but another part of me thinks it's hard for her to be herself on the national team and thus she hasn't played her best (and I don't think she has always been given the most talented subset of players to work with). I do think her intensity and focus would be a great asset as a backup - she'd be dialed in coming in for sure. In any case I'm hoping LOVB-Madison is a great home for her soon and I expect her to rock it.
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Post by greatlakesvballer on Jun 4, 2024 3:54:51 GMT -5
Who's going to Louisville to kick off the season? Now that the details are out there, I'm suddenly ready to give Ticketmaster my life savings to see these 4 teams kick things off. It's a hell of a way for the Fire-Bringer and the other new Badgers to start their collegiate volleyball adventures, huh?
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Post by tablealgebra on Jun 4, 2024 4:05:57 GMT -5
Poulter best fits what they want to do (which is stay in system; Poulter runs a 3/4 option offense the best of any setter the US has) and Hancock provides obvious intangibles and is healthy (which Poulter and Carlini aren't; bringing two setters fighting injury to Paris is a bit scary). I tend to think Carlini only goes if Poulter doesn't and Karch seems committed to getting Poulter ready for Paris. If Carlini and Hancock went, Carlini would have every chance to start, but Hancock is the better backup. In my opinion, the same stylistic choices are also going to squeeze Plummer who is the US's best terminator. But USNT's path to gold is the same as 2021; simply pass better than every other team and run an in-system offense with players who are good enough to terminate in-system. And also yes, basically any thread about the national team brings out a lot of really negative people; it's almost comical. But we're 4-4 and our Olympic draw is getting harder and harder with every loss. That being said, at least the women's team didn't lose to Bulgaria like the men. I mean, the men only sent B and C team players week 1 Our women's C team could have beaten Bulgaria. But that probably also speaks to the depth of the respective teams in comparison to the rest of the world (women much deeper than rest of world, men not so much).
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Post by savannahbadger on Jun 4, 2024 7:18:04 GMT -5
Who's going to Louisville to kick off the season? Now that the details are out there, I'm suddenly ready to give Ticketmaster my life savings to see these 4 teams kick things off. It's a hell of a way for the Fire-Bringer and the other new Badgers to start their collegiate volleyball adventures, huh? How much are tickets?
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Post by badgerbreath on Jun 4, 2024 9:03:34 GMT -5
Work schedules do not align with that week 0 match. Midweek is always hard during the semester, but especially that week. I'll be in Milwaukee though!
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Post by ndodge on Jun 4, 2024 10:37:12 GMT -5
Work schedules do not align with that week 0 match. Midweek is always hard during the semester, but especially that week. I'll be in Milwaukee though! Same for me, Milwaukee yes, Louisville no, unless I do something crazy as the date gets closer.
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Post by 200backer on Jun 4, 2024 15:53:27 GMT -5
What positions do we think the badgers will focus on for these next few weeks? Assuming there are two scholarship openings with GG and booth graduating, I assume GG is on scholarship being international. So obviously replacing a middle and a libero so assume some focus there, but I’d guess they’ll use a scholarship on a middle then try to get a quality walk on libero. Maybe use the other scholarship on a setter who can take over for Charlie after 2 years?
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Post by rainbowbadger on Jun 4, 2024 16:23:58 GMT -5
What positions do we think the badgers will focus on for these next few weeks? Assuming there are two scholarship openings with GG and booth graduating, I assume GG is on scholarship being international. So obviously replacing a middle and a libero so assume some focus there, but I’d guess they’ll use a scholarship on a middle then try to get a quality walk on libero. Maybe use the other scholarship on a setter who can take over for Charlie after 2 years? I plan to do a roster/schollie deep dive this evening.
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Post by vball123 on Jun 4, 2024 16:30:21 GMT -5
I think we forgot about our queen Molly Haggerty
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Post by rainbowbadger on Jun 4, 2024 17:46:19 GMT -5
2026 recruiting:
My current read is that we will have somewhere between 3 and 6 scholarships available for 2026. By my math we’ll need 2-3 pins, 1-2 middles, and possibly a setter. Sheff likes his utility players, so I could see him bringing in 2 OH and a MB/RS, or an OH, an MB, and a S/RS, or something like that.
We’ll want to prioritize pin hitters and middles. IDK whether we’ll take a setter, IMO it will depend on where Horner is at. I don’t think we need to use scholarships on any DSs.
Showing my work:
Here’s our roster for 2026 as it stands. * = full scholarship confirmed. ^ = walk-on confirmed. + = known or believed to be on partial.
OH *Shadd-Ceres (Jr) *Quest (So)
MB *Serafinowska (Jr) *Wardlow (So)
RS *Horner (So) <also a setter>
S *Fuerbringer (Jr) ^Van Wie (Jr)
DS +Damrow (Sr) ^Chan (Jr) +Schumacher (Jr) +Simon (So)
It’s never been clear whether Damrow is on scholarship and if so for how much. News articles reported Schumacher to be on a 2-2 and Simon to be on a 3-1 at the time of their respective commitments. It’s safe to say at least 1 will be on scholarship in 2026, and possibly as many as 3.
With 12 scholarships, the ideal allocation (IMO) is similar to the Olympic roster (with our numbers in parenthesis - counting Horner as half of each of her positions):
5-6 OH/RS (2.5) 3-4 MB (2) 2-3 S (1.5) 1-2 L (3)
So we would ideally have 2-3 more pin hitters and 1-2 more middles, and possibly a setter.
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Post by 25or624 on Jun 4, 2024 19:12:28 GMT -5
Acevedo to Minnesota; check their thread.
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