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Post by WahineFan44 on Jun 21, 2024 4:35:26 GMT -5
There is no such thing as the Sarah Franklin affect.
Any success and I mean any, is tied to carlini.
Sheff is slimey but him and carlini really are owed a significant chunk of money for what they did for Wisconsin volleyball
Without them, idk where the team would be right now
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Post by northwoods on Jun 21, 2024 4:58:32 GMT -5
I can’t believe that we landed the #2 overall player and #2 outside hitter ALONG WITH #8 overall and #4 outside hitter! The Sarah Franklin effect is real Do you all think the success of Sarah Franklin at Wisconsin is a recruiting pitch in itself? I think it’s a piece in a pretty rich tapestry of achievements for the program. Top recruits tend to want 2 volleyball things….a record of winning championships and a path to one day be an Olympian. Badgers are 2 of the last 3 NPOY. They won 4 of the last 5 B1G championships, a natty in 2021 and 4 of last 5 final 4’s. The starting setter & middle on the Olympic team are Badgers. It’s a pretty compelling recruitment pitch!
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Post by greatlakesvballer on Jun 21, 2024 5:21:05 GMT -5
This discussion has become rather redundant, repetitive and obvious. That Carlini can be credited for UW program success is a 10-year-old observation. And saying Sarah Franklin has nothing to do with bringing in new top level recruits is silly on its face; of course she does. I guess we can boil it back down to "Success breeds success," but a more interesting analysis would include something about how Sheffield and the rest of the attractive parts of the program can be presented to teenagers, say from Texas who've never visited, and who have offers from other well-known schools,to get them to ultimately pull the trigger with Wisconsin. There have to be A LOT of recruiting details/fine points that come into play to finally swing important verbal commitments.
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Post by talkbdgrvb65 on Jun 21, 2024 8:39:36 GMT -5
There is no such thing as the Sarah Franklin affect. Any success and I mean any, is tied to carlini. Sheff is slimey but him and carlini really are owed a significant chunk of money for what they did for Wisconsin volleyball Without them, idk where the team would be right now Yes, Sarah Franklin coming in and being NPOY has an effect. Also, give me details on what makes Sheffield "slimey".
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Post by volleyball90 on Jun 21, 2024 8:46:57 GMT -5
This discussion has become rather redundant, repetitive and obvious. That Carlini can be credited for UW program success is a 10-year-old observation. And saying Sarah Franklin has nothing to do with bringing in new top level recruits is silly on its face; of course she does. I guess we can boil it back down to "Success breeds success," but a more interesting analysis would include something about how Sheffield and the rest of the attractive parts of the program can be presented to teenagers, say from Texas who've never visited, and who have offers from other well-known schools,to get them to ultimately pull the trigger with Wisconsin. There have to be A LOT of recruiting details/fine points that come into play to finally swing important verbal commitments. Also, we are just ignoring the Rettke-Hilley era? How Kelly took the Carlini era and carried that into the Rettke-Hilley era which actually led to a title that is much more relevant to current recruits than Carlini. Ultimately as you put it best, "success breeds success" and Kelly has been one of the most successful coaches since he has arrived at Wisconsin.
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Post by volleyball90 on Jun 21, 2024 8:49:10 GMT -5
Agreed. Said it for years. Without Carlini following through with her commitment (it was a different time in our sport - loyalty existed) Wisconsin would have never been where they are now. Wisconsin was a good program before Carlini (there is a reason Carlini even wanted to come to Wisconsin and why she chose to stay during coach change). I would argue Wisconsin always had the potential to be where we are now.
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Post by talkbdgrvb65 on Jun 21, 2024 8:53:01 GMT -5
This might help settle the discussion. From Punzel article in Wisconsin State Journal, quote from Halle Thompson, “That is huge for me. One of the biggest deciding factors was I wanted to go somewhere that I can develop myself and someday be on a podium with an Olympic gold medal around my neck. A winning program for me was very important because I wanted to go somewhere I knew for sure that I would be developed into a great player. I’m excited to work hard and get really good there.”
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Post by savannahbadger on Jun 21, 2024 9:15:28 GMT -5
Badger Select live look just opened, and there's VERY few reserved seats available as of today (73):
Gold: nothing
SIlver: 2 in F 2 in Q 4 in R 18 in S
Bronze: 2 in E 2 in H (2 single seats) 16 in P 2 in Q 1 in S (single seat) 5 in T
Red: 5 in D 6 in H (2 single seats) 2 in P (2 single seats) 6 in T (1 single seat)
Maybe this was the case last year, but the upper northeast corner (to the right of Bucky's Balcony) is no longer general admission, but is being reserved for single match tickets that you have to call in for. Looks like it's sponsored by Jones Dairy Farm.
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Post by badgerbreath on Jun 21, 2024 9:15:42 GMT -5
Badger volleyball is a long story with many characters. I always hate when it gets reduced to one or two people. It has always had among the largest attendance numbers in the NCAA since I've been a fan - nearly 30 years now. Steve Lowe started it, Cook pushed it to new heights after Lowe passed. Waite picked up the baton and carried it for a while. Whatever happened after that 2007 season, the fanbase was still there. There were still nearby volleyball hotbeds in Chicagoland and the Twin Cities to recruit from. Wisconsin has been a sleeping giant for decades.
I think what Carlini did was bring back some excitement after those dark years so the program could regain it's more natural level, and build on it. Sheff and Co (I have to emphasize it's actually a lot of people who are contributing here) are what have consistently pushed it over the top along multiple fronts. I think a key part of that success was pounding on the door until they got real institutional buy-in, and getting past the inferiority complex that paralyzed the program for so long. You have to credit the institution with finally seeing the light just a little ahead of most others.
The fanbase does not take this progress for granted. Those dark years are a present memory for many. There is still a lot of PTSD from other near misses and false starts. There is the long shadow of football. You can see it's shadow all over these discussions. But seeing the program maintained so well after the really trying pandemic years has me feeling pretty solidly optimistic, and it has raised my expectations, without dampening the things that originally got me into the sport in the first place. (Disclaimer - I don't have to deal with ticket pricing being remote!)
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Post by savannahbadger on Jun 21, 2024 9:23:48 GMT -5
Agreed. Said it for years. Without Carlini following through with her commitment (it was a different time in our sport - loyalty existed) Wisconsin would have never been where they are now. there is a reason Carlini even wanted to come to Wisconsin and why she chose to stay during coach change At a young age, Lauren saw Maria Carlini (unrelated to Lauren) in a Badger VB jersey, and she pictured herself following in her footsteps.
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Post by badgerbreath on Jun 21, 2024 9:36:02 GMT -5
there is a reason Carlini even wanted to come to Wisconsin and why she chose to stay during coach change At a young age, Lauren saw Maria Carlini (unrelated to Lauren) in a Badger VB jersey, and she pictured herself following in her footsteps. That was a crystallization of a broader affinity though. She has talked about how she liked the whole atmosphere of the program. The crowd, the intros with the kiddie high-5 line, Pete Waite...
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Post by buckypete on Jun 21, 2024 9:47:01 GMT -5
Badger Select live look just opened, and there's VERY few reserved seats available as of today (73): Gold: nothing SIlver: 2 in F 2 in Q 4 in R 18 in S Bronze: 2 in E 2 in H (2 single seats) 16 in P 2 in Q 1 in S (single seat) 5 in T Red: 5 in D 6 in H (2 single seats) 2 in P (2 single seats) 6 in T (1 single seat) Maybe this was the case last year, but the upper northeast corner (to the right of Bucky's Balcony) is no longer general admission, but is being reserved for single match tickets that you have to call in for. Looks like it's sponsored by Jones Dairy Farm. It was "technically" the case last year that the NE corner section in GA was reserved for seating for people in Bucky's Balcony but it was rarely enforced.
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Post by swaggyp on Jun 21, 2024 9:56:56 GMT -5
Badger Select live look just opened, and there's VERY few reserved seats available as of today (73): Gold: nothing SIlver: 2 in F 2 in Q 4 in R 18 in S Bronze: 2 in E 2 in H (2 single seats) 16 in P 2 in Q 1 in S (single seat) 5 in T Red: 5 in D 6 in H (2 single seats) 2 in P (2 single seats) 6 in T (1 single seat) Maybe this was the case last year, but the upper northeast corner (to the right of Bucky's Balcony) is no longer general admission, but is being reserved for single match tickets that you have to call in for. Looks like it's sponsored by Jones Dairy Farm. Those two seats just to the left of the up official look like great seats though.
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Post by savannahbadger on Jun 21, 2024 10:06:19 GMT -5
Those two seats just to the left of the up official look like great seats though. I have zero hope of upgrading my seats this year. There were far more open seats last year, though there is a very slim chance some donors higher than my level might drop some seats/not renew any seats by the time my pick opens up on Tuesday.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Jun 21, 2024 10:37:24 GMT -5
There is no such thing as the Sarah Franklin affect. Any success and I mean any, is tied to carlini. Sheff is slimey but him and carlini really are owed a significant chunk of money for what they did for Wisconsin volleyball Without them, idk where the team would be right now Yes, Sarah Franklin coming in and being NPOY has an effect. Also, give me details on what makes Sheffield "slimey". I mean I was kinda be dramatic for dramatic purposes. I’m sure Franklin is bringing in people. I just think carlini is the main reason ya know. Not really to this day per say. Like “oh carlini went here so I wanna go here” but Wisconsin wouldn’t be getting the Franklin’s if it wasn’t for her
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