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Post by slxpress on Jun 21, 2024 15:14:21 GMT -5
By facts and sources you mean you want me to pull up the documents that state it was recruiting violation? Cause I obviously can’t do that. But I can attest to the multitude of club coaches I’ve talked too who have all stated that wasn’t sheff first recruiting violation. I mean pull up the thread. People were stating the same things. "Many people have said" is popular in some circles these days, but you have nothing more than hearsay. If Sheff sued your nasty ass for defamation, you would have to put these declarants on the stand to offer testimony detailing their interactions with Sheffield. You're probably dead in the water right there.
In addition, I'll bet that Charlie Fuerbringer's parents have more and better contacts than you do when it comes to college recruiting. Do you think they're going to let their daughter play for Sheff if they believe he is slimy?
Get a grip and be gone.
He and an assistant went to see Macaria Spears’ team when Wisconsin was playing TCU and Baylor in Fort Worth. Nothing wrong with that…except it was a known dead period where all contact was forbidden. He was shown on video and photographs to be there. Nothing was ever announced or acknowledged by anyone. Doesn’t mean he didn’t get a letter or other kind of notice from the NCAA but if so it was handled privately, without some kind of public acknowledgement officially. I don’t think of this incident as evidence of Sheffield being slimy, but it was certainly an example of him purposefully skirting the rules in an effort to get a mild recruiting advantage.
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Post by greatlakesvballer on Jun 21, 2024 15:17:54 GMT -5
Badger volleyball is a long story with many characters. I always hate when it gets reduced to one or two people. It has always had among the largest attendance numbers in the NCAA since I've been a fan - nearly 30 years now. Steve Lowe started it, Cook pushed it to new heights after Lowe passed. Waite picked up the baton and carried it for a while. Whatever happened after that 2007 season, the fanbase was still there. There were still nearby volleyball hotbeds in Chicagoland and the Twin Cities to recruit from. Wisconsin has been a sleeping giant for decades. I think what Carlini did was bring back some excitement after those dark years so the program could regain it's more natural level, and build on it. Sheff and Co (I have to emphasize it's actually a lot of people who are contributing here) are what have consistently pushed it over the top along multiple fronts. I think a key part of that success was pounding on the door until they got real institutional buy-in, and getting past the inferiority complex that paralyzed the program for so long. You have to credit the institution with finally seeing the light just a little ahead of most others. The fanbase does not take this progress for granted. Those dark years are a present memory for many. There is still a lot of PTSD from other near misses and false starts. There is the long shadow of football. You can see it's shadow all over these discussions. But seeing the program maintained so well after the really trying pandemic years has me feeling pretty solidly optimistic, and it has raised my expectations, without dampening the things that originally got me into the sport in the first place. (Disclaimer - I don't have to deal with ticket pricing being remote!) I would just overlay one more success factor on your analysis of the fanbase, which is the leaders in women's athletics and the overall tone of the Madison/Dane County community that has been receptive...indeed enthusiastically supportive...of women's sports since I've been in Madison (28 years). I think the fanbase that showed up for Lowe and Cook can't be taken for granted in many other communities (that I have visited). Your reminder of the long-term attendance figures is supported by a "progressive" fan base that does not resemble the Saturday afternoon football crowd in Madison or other college towns.
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Post by swaggyp on Jun 21, 2024 15:40:25 GMT -5
Couldn't be happier for Pete. There are very few people like him out there anymore. It’s a picture of loyalty and integrity, the way he continues to contribute to the program in any way he can. Badgers fans are so lucky to have him. He absolutely deserves this. Completely agree with this. He did not have to be this generous to UW after Kelly got hired, he'd be well within his rights to have been salty about it. Instead he's one of the program's biggest ambassadors and is a delight to hear on the radio.
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Post by volleyball90 on Jun 21, 2024 17:01:04 GMT -5
"Many people have said" is popular in some circles these days, but you have nothing more than hearsay. If Sheff sued your nasty ass for defamation, you would have to put these declarants on the stand to offer testimony detailing their interactions with Sheffield. You're probably dead in the water right there.
In addition, I'll bet that Charlie Fuerbringer's parents have more and better contacts than you do when it comes to college recruiting. Do you think they're going to let their daughter play for Sheff if they believe he is slimy?
Get a grip and be gone.
He and an assistant went to see Macaria Spears’ team when Wisconsin was playing TCU and Baylor in Fort Worth. Nothing wrong with that…except it was a known dead period where all contact was forbidden. He was shown on video and photographs to be there. Nothing was ever announced or acknowledged by anyone. Doesn’t mean he didn’t get a letter or other kind of notice from the NCAA but if so it was handled privately, without some kind of public acknowledgement officially. I don’t think of this incident as evidence of Sheffield being slimy, but it was certainly an example of him purposefully skirting the rules in an effort to get a mild recruiting advantage. This violation was very public knowledge and self reported by Wisconsin. Idk what you mean that nothing was acknowledged by anyone. This was pretty well known on these boards.
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Post by slxpress on Jun 21, 2024 17:05:07 GMT -5
He and an assistant went to see Macaria Spears’ team when Wisconsin was playing TCU and Baylor in Fort Worth. Nothing wrong with that…except it was a known dead period where all contact was forbidden. He was shown on video and photographs to be there. Nothing was ever announced or acknowledged by anyone. Doesn’t mean he didn’t get a letter or other kind of notice from the NCAA but if so it was handled privately, without some kind of public acknowledgement officially. I don’t think of this incident as evidence of Sheffield being slimy, but it was certainly an example of him purposefully skirting the rules in an effort to get a mild recruiting advantage. This violation was very public knowledge and self reported by Wisconsin. Idk what you mean that nothing was acknowledged by anyone. This was pretty well known on these boards. There was no acknowledgement from the NCAA. The only reason I knew about it was from these boards. I never saw anything about it being self reported. Not saying it wasn’t. I just didn’t see anything along those lines from the UW athletic department. As I already indicated, any communications were either private that I was not privy to or non existent. Doesn’t really matter which one. In either case there’s no citation to share.
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Post by SportyBucky on Jun 21, 2024 17:15:41 GMT -5
This violation was very public knowledge and self reported by Wisconsin. Idk what you mean that nothing was acknowledged by anyone. This was pretty well known on these boards. There was no acknowledgement from the NCAA. The only reason I knew about it was from these boards. I never saw anything about it being self reported. Not saying it wasn’t. I just didn’t see anything along those lines from the UW athletic department. As I already indicated, any communications were either private that I was not privy to or non existent. Doesn’t really matter which one. In either case there’s no citation to share. Well given who you are it's downright shocking you didn't get directly informed by UW and the NCAA. Bless your heart. 💔
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Post by slxpress on Jun 21, 2024 17:17:05 GMT -5
There was no acknowledgement from the NCAA. The only reason I knew about it was from these boards. I never saw anything about it being self reported. Not saying it wasn’t. I just didn’t see anything along those lines from the UW athletic department. As I already indicated, any communications were either private that I was not privy to or non existent. Doesn’t really matter which one. In either case there’s no citation to share. Well given who you are it's downright shocking you didn't get directly informed by UW and the NCAA. Bless your heart. 💔 I don’t even know what you mean by this. Never indicated I should be. I’m giving a reason why there’s no link or citation.
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Post by volleysunshine on Jun 21, 2024 17:17:18 GMT -5
Badger Select live look just opened, and there's VERY few reserved seats available as of today (73): Gold: nothing SIlver: 2 in F 2 in Q 4 in R 18 in S Bronze: 2 in E 2 in H (2 single seats) 16 in P 2 in Q 1 in S (single seat) 5 in T Red: 5 in D 6 in H (2 single seats) 2 in P (2 single seats) 6 in T (1 single seat) Maybe this was the case last year, but the upper northeast corner (to the right of Bucky's Balcony) is no longer general admission, but is being reserved for single match tickets that you have to call in for. Looks like it's sponsored by Jones Dairy Farm. Ugh! I was hoping the extra minimum seat donation would end up with a sliver of a hope for reserved as folks would release the seats they don’t use with increased overall ticket prices. Pickings are even more slim this year. I guess it’s seat geek for us . A nice donation was made and I doubt we’ll even get a shot at it. I did get a nice vinyl sticker though. Fingers crossed we can pick up some scraps. I am becoming utterly hopeless that unless win the lotto and drop 25k we will never have a shot at reserve season tickets. I know there is nothing wrong with GA; our schedule just does not afford us to be in the at the front of the line club so our GA seats would not be great. Maybe in 15 to 20 years when we can retire we’ll be able to join those guys consistently. I am super excited about the future of the team though! Seat Geek here we come again. Don’t gouge us too much!
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Post by savannahbadger on Jun 21, 2024 17:35:04 GMT -5
Ugh! I was hoping the extra minimum seat donation would end up with a sliver of a hope for reserved as folks would release the seats they don’t use with increased overall ticket prices. Pickings are even more slim this year. I guess it’s seat geek for us . A nice donation was made and I doubt we’ll even get a shot at it. I did get a nice vinyl sticker though. Fingers crossed we can pick up some scraps. I am becoming utterly hopeless that unless win the lotto and drop 25k we will never have a shot at reserve season tickets. FWIW, I don't know for sure that these are the only ones available, as I know I gave up a seat in Q (Bronze) and that seat is not showing as available in Badger Select. I don't know what would have happened with it between last month (I called to drop from 3 season tickets to 2) and the live look around today.
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Post by savannahbadger on Jun 21, 2024 17:50:43 GMT -5
What the prognosis for the next bingo? Likely to be one waiting on more camps/visits?
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Post by swaggyp on Jun 21, 2024 18:19:01 GMT -5
Nothing was ever announced or acknowledged by anyone. Doesn’t mean he didn’t get a letter or other kind of notice from the NCAA but if so it was handled privately, without some kind of public acknowledgement officially. This is not true. The Spears thing absolutely happened but Sheff has addressed it publicly more than once. I'm not going to do the homework for you of looking it up but it's been on podcasts and interviews before. This is the weekend they learned about the existence of the phone leaks. Think what you want about his recruiting practices but it is factually untrue that nothing was ever acknowledged by anyone. He admits it himself.
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Post by badgerbreath on Jun 21, 2024 19:19:19 GMT -5
What the prognosis for the next bingo? Likely to be one waiting on more camps/visits? That's what I'm guessing. August sometime.
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Post by slxpress on Jun 21, 2024 21:24:30 GMT -5
Nothing was ever announced or acknowledged by anyone. Doesn’t mean he didn’t get a letter or other kind of notice from the NCAA but if so it was handled privately, without some kind of public acknowledgement officially. This is not true. The Spears thing absolutely happened but Sheff has addressed it publicly more than once. I'm not going to do the homework for you of looking it up but it's been on podcasts and interviews before. This is the weekend they learned about the existence of the phone leaks. Think what you want about his recruiting practices but it is factually untrue that nothing was ever acknowledged by anyone. He admits it himself. Okay, so you can cite it, then. I didn’t see anything in an anrticle anywhere, and I don’t watch the Badger podcasts and interviews. You seem to think I’m making an accusation when I’m simply giving an explanation. The wahine fan says something about Sheffield disregarding recruiting rules. It’s challenged by a Badger fan who says it’s not true and asks for sources. I point out an example and explain why there aren’t any sources that I’m aware of. I don’t have an emotional investment in this subject. I don’t dislike Sheffield. As a Texas fan, if he’s bending the rules, he’s not doing it in a way that’s affecting Texas recruiting. I feel like Texas is at the leading edge of NIL in volleyball, so I’m of the mind if I want to get super concerned about the splinter in someone’s eye, maybe focus on the log in mine. But the question was asked, and I answered it. That’s it. I do think if the NCAA is going to have dead periods, they should enforce them, or don’t bother having them at all. It does give some advantage to a coach who is willing to ignore dead periods versus the coaches who respect them, but that’s not about Sheffield. That’s any coach. He just happened to be caught on video and it was posted here.
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Post by badgerbreath on Jun 21, 2024 22:33:59 GMT -5
This is not true. The Spears thing absolutely happened but Sheff has addressed it publicly more than once. I'm not going to do the homework for you of looking it up but it's been on podcasts and interviews before. This is the weekend they learned about the existence of the phone leaks. Think what you want about his recruiting practices but it is factually untrue that nothing was ever acknowledged by anyone. He admits it himself. Okay, so you can cite it, then. I didn’t see anything in an anrticle anywhere, and I don’t watch the Badger podcasts and interviews. FYI. He talked about it here on Jon Arias's podcast where he reviews the season. The season review starts at about 4:30 where they start discussing the challenges at the beginning of the season. I time stamped it.
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Post by dbro1970 on Jun 21, 2024 23:21:56 GMT -5
I mean I was kinda be dramatic for dramatic purposes. I’m sure Franklin is bringing in people. I just think carlini is the main reason ya know. Not really to this day per say. Like “oh carlini went here so I wanna go here” but Wisconsin wouldn’t be getting the Franklin’s if it wasn’t for her "Also, give me details on what makes Sheffield "slimey"
This guy is just a know nothing, low IQ a--hole. He shoots his mouth off but he doesn't have the goods. Essentially, he is the epitome of a slimy punk.
Hmmm, you are entitled to your opinion. I personally see Cook as a slimy pink. My definition includes saying you like to train up players in your program and hate transfers then filling 1/3 of you lineup with transfers. Ask Caffey and Lauenstein what they think of Cook.
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