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Post by swaggyp on Aug 25, 2024 14:10:34 GMT -5
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Post by babyhusker on Aug 25, 2024 14:25:18 GMT -5
I wasn't sure you all wanted to watch Texas to win another one in a row while Smrek is your "OOS" opp lol. My comments were about big matches and what could gone wrong and what have gone wrong. Not about conference play stats. Uh…that loss was NOT Smrek’s fault. Did you watch the game? She hit over .500 and got 4 blocks. It’s okay to admit when you’re wrong! |
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Post by Burly Ives on Aug 25, 2024 14:26:44 GMT -5
Randos coming out of the woodwork to say that Fuerbringer is “overrated” and Smrek is “ineffective”? Must be a sign that the Badgers are gonna have a great season! Fuehrbringer hasn't done ANYTHING yet. Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. She has good talent and a high ceiling but apparently according to Caroline Crawford she is a Rolls Royce as opposed to what must have been a couple of yugo's in the recent past. |
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Post by dragan11 on Aug 25, 2024 14:32:01 GMT -5
I wasn't sure you all wanted to watch Texas to win another one in a row while Smrek is your "OOS" opp lol. My comments were about big matches and what could gone wrong and what have gone wrong. Not about conference play stats. Uh…that loss was NOT Smrek’s fault. Did you watch the game? She hit over .500 and got 4 blocks. It’s okay to admit when you’re wrong! Why it is hard to understand? I'm not blaming Smrek. I'm blaming the system and saying that this system with Smrek has limitations , especially in big games in final four. As an solution, considering Charlie, great pure setter, suggesting something more traditional for couple of rotations when left side can't get the kills. Id not dare to change Sarah-orzol duo cause of Charlie. Lets give her better reception to make her magic. Molly Philips wasn't a go to OOS hitting right side for Texas but they had big attacking OH which Wisconsin doesn't really have. Wisconsin has more well rounded OH duo and might need more traditional opp to change things up to share OOS load. Anyway, I'm done. Enjoy statistics but volleyball is more than numbers. |
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Post by volleyball90 on Aug 25, 2024 14:43:02 GMT -5
Who in the right mind would think Smrek is an area we need to change? Just fell into bizarro world reading those post.
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Post by badgerbadgerbadger on Aug 25, 2024 14:43:55 GMT -5
Uh…that loss was NOT Smrek’s fault. Did you watch the game? She hit over .500 and got 4 blocks. It’s okay to admit when you’re wrong! Why it is hard to understand? I'm not blaming Smrek. I 'm blaming the system and saying that this system with Smrek has limitations , especially in big games in final four. The last time Wisconsin ran a 5-1 with Smrek at oppo they won the title. Were you expecting them to win a world title lmao for this system to be effective in your eyes? |
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Post by 25or624 on Aug 25, 2024 14:58:26 GMT -5
Randos coming out of the woodwork to say that Fuerbringer is “overrated” and Smrek is “ineffective”? Must be a sign that the Badgers are gonna have a great season! Fuehrbringer hasn't done ANYTHING yet. Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. She has good talent and a high ceiling but apparently according to Caroline Crawford she is a Rolls Royce as opposed to what must have been a couple of yugo's in the recent past. CC played with and was set by Izzy and MJ for 2 seasons. She has been playing with Charlie all summer. She has credibility in this context. You have none. Find a new axe to grind, ideally on another thread. |
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Post by Burly Ives on Aug 25, 2024 15:11:14 GMT -5
Fuehrbringer hasn't done ANYTHING yet. Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. She has good talent and a high ceiling but apparently according to Caroline Crawford she is a Rolls Royce as opposed to what must have been a couple of yugo's in the recent past. CC played with and was set by Izzy and MJ for 2 seasons. She has been playing with Charlie all summer. She has credibility in this context. You have none. Find a new axe to grind, ideally on another thread. So did several other players but you didn't see them making disrespectful comments. Stating realities is not grinding axes sorry you can't handle the truth. In order to be a classy participant in sports it is important to be able to give praise without having to highlight others inequities whether it is intended or not. Do not leave anything to chance because words are powerful and carry weight. CC hopefully has learned that words indeed carry much weight. |
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Post by tablealgebra on Aug 25, 2024 15:14:30 GMT -5
Uh…that loss was NOT Smrek’s fault. Did you watch the game? She hit over .500 and got 4 blocks. It’s okay to admit when you’re wrong! Why it is hard to understand? I'm not blaming Smrek. I'm blaming the system and saying that this system with Smrek has limitations , especially in big games in final four. As an solution, considering Charlie, great pure setter, suggesting something more traditional for couple of rotations when left side can't get the kills. Id not dare to change Sarah-orzol duo cause of Charlie. Lets give her better reception to make her magic. Molly Philips wasn't a go to OOS hitting right side for Texas but they had big attacking OH which Wisconsin doesn't really have. Wisconsin has more well rounded OH duo and might need more traditional opp to change things up to share OOS load. Anyway, I'm done. Enjoy statistics but volleyball is more than numbers. You haven't made any arguments that support anything that you claim, yet you demean and insult everyone who doesn't agree with you. In fact, all your argument are clearly based on a prejudicial view of how volleyball should be played, as opposed to any actual analysis or observation. I'm glad you're going away. Never come back please. But if you do, please argue using facts instead of this grand idea of how volleyball should be played that exists in your head. |
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Post by tablealgebra on Aug 25, 2024 15:15:14 GMT -5
CC played with and was set by Izzy and MJ for 2 seasons. She has been playing with Charlie all summer. She has credibility in this context. You have none. Find a new axe to grind, ideally on another thread. Stating realities is not grinding axes sorry you can't handle the truth. In order to be a classy participant in sports it is important to be able to give praise without having to highlight others inequities whether it is intended or not. Do not leave anything to chance because words are powerful and carry weight. CC hopefully has learned that words indeed carry much weight. Speaking of axes to grind... I thought we had let this go four pages ago. Apparently you haven't. If you are family of Izzy or MJ, I'm sorry that we have moved on so quickly from them. Otherwise, put a sock in it. |
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Post by Burly Ives on Aug 25, 2024 15:18:32 GMT -5
Stating realities is not grinding axes sorry you can't handle the truth. In order to be a classy participant in sports it is important to be able to give praise without having to highlight others inequities whether it is intended or not. Do not leave anything to chance because words are powerful and carry weight. CC hopefully has learned that words indeed carry much weight. Speaking of axes to grind... I thought we had let this go four pages ago. Apparently you haven't. If you are family of Izzy or MJ, I'm sorry that we have moved on so quickly from them. Otherwise, put a sock in it. If someone is going to personally attack me I am going to defend myself and my thoughts. Do you realize you just extended the convo? And why are you so triggered anyways. This forum is for discussion relating to the Wisconsin volleyball team and I was commenting on disrespectful comments by one of the players. Bringing up slights is a reason for members to make personal attacks against someone stating their views? Sad you would lash out in such a manner. |
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Post by 25or624 on Aug 25, 2024 15:36:40 GMT -5
CC played with and was set by Izzy and MJ for 2 seasons. She has been playing with Charlie all summer. She has credibility in this context. You have none. Find a new axe to grind, ideally on another thread. Stating realities is not grinding axes sorry you can't handle the truth. In order to be a classy participant in sports it is important to be able to give praise without having to highlight others inequities whether it is intended or not. Do not leave anything to chance because words are powerful and carry weight. CC hopefully has learned that words indeed carry much weight. I'm reasonably certain that CC isn't paying any attention to your self-righteous @$$%*!*. I hope she keeps shining on, a breath of fresh air in a world full of sanctimonious bloviators. |
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Post by Burly Ives on Aug 25, 2024 15:43:58 GMT -5
Stating realities is not grinding axes sorry you can't handle the truth. In order to be a classy participant in sports it is important to be able to give praise without having to highlight others inequities whether it is intended or not. Do not leave anything to chance because words are powerful and carry weight. CC hopefully has learned that words indeed carry much weight. I'm reasonably certain that CC isn't paying any attention to your self-righteous @$$%*!*. I hope she keeps shining on, a breath of fresh air in a world full of sanctimonious bloviators. I'm sure she isn't if she was thoughtless enough to say what she did. |
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Post by tacojohn on Aug 25, 2024 15:58:26 GMT -5
CC played with and was set by Izzy and MJ for 2 seasons. She has been playing with Charlie all summer. She has credibility in this context. You have none. Find a new axe to grind, ideally on another thread. So did several other players but you didn't see them making disrespectful comments. Stating realities is not grinding axes sorry you can't handle the truth. In order to be a classy participant in sports it is important to be able to give praise without having to highlight others inequities whether it is intended or not. Do not leave anything to chance because words are powerful and carry weight. CC hopefully has learned that words indeed carry much weight. God stop already. "Hopefully CC has learned that words indeed carry weight"  ? Might be a wee bit overdramatic for a Sunday afternoon dude. I think her comments were fine. Who cares. Move on |
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Post by badgerbreath on Aug 25, 2024 16:19:18 GMT -5
Speaking of axes to grind... I thought we had let this go four pages ago. Apparently you haven't. If you are family of Izzy or MJ, I'm sorry that we have moved on so quickly from them. Otherwise, put a sock in it. If someone is going to personally attack me I am going to defend myself and my thoughts. Do you realize you just extended the convo? And why are you so triggered anyways. This forum is for discussion relating to the Wisconsin volleyball team and I was commenting on disrespectful comments by one of the players. Bringing up slights is a reason for members to make personal attacks against someone stating their views? Sad you would lash out in such a manner. Disagreement is not necessarily attack, though it can devolve into that with frustration. I and other's don't see how CC was shading MJ or Izzy. Your time on Off the Net may have warped your perspective a bit. I'm going to explain how I read those comments and the basis of my opinion that it was not shade being thrown. You keep saying CC said Charlie is doing a "better job" than MJ or Izzy, but all she (and Franklin and Dev) said was that Charlie has trust that hitters will figure out that they may get set at any time, and that is different than the two previous years. Sheff himself said the hitters were not prepared for the speed of sets. Charlie is more aggressive and, in a 5-1, not constrained to match another setter's style. Objectively, the middles were set less last year, especially CC. By all accounts, the connections in the exhibition were not smooth. CC's comments indicate that is because the hitters have to get used to a different setting style and speed with different expectations. They were holding themselves accountable rather than let Charlie take the flak. Charlie and the hitters have not yet developed the connections, but Charlie is dictating how she sets based on her personality and style and the intent of the coaches to speed things up, and I like that. It's not ragging on Izzy and MJ to say these things. In a 6-2, such trust is hard to develop. It can't accommodate one aggressive setter and another more cautious one who sets a consistently but predictably. The number of connections that have to be developed is effectively doubled, but the practice time is not. The setters have to mimic each other to keep those connections consistent. The passing wasn't great so the pin attack was more dominant than usual. Those are precisely the arguments against a 6-2 or else everyone would run it. Still the 6-2 made UW one of the best offenses in the country. Izzy and MJ got us to the final 4 one year and should have done it it two years, and maybe further if not for the passing which wasn't their fault. CC never experienced a mature Hilley running a 5-1, so of course she would see a 5-1 under Charlie as different and tantalizing, and she wasn't the only hitter who made these types of comments. She only leaned into the comparison a touch more in a quote in the paper, but the comparison is fair and middles look like they will see the ball more. |
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? Might be a wee bit overdramatic for a Sunday afternoon dude. 