|
Post by babyhusker on Sept 26, 2024 8:13:01 GMT -5
I dunno, I kind of think coach overestimates his abilities. If we still have subs left I think it was 16-16 in the 5th set, Devyn absolutely should not be serving in that spot. She has proven to in the past get overhyped and serve it long. And if the Badgers are to realize our potential this year, Gúlce cannot be the libero. What previously was confined to bouts of really bad serve receive play has spread to her passing. Saige or Lola needs to gain the experience these next several games OR give Shadd-Ceres the experience now so she is able to help when it really matters in the postseason. Because this is the GG for worse and for better, there isn't some magical switch that can be flipped. I suppose with a more efficient offense ( major Charlie progression) and a block that doesn't flat out disappear at times we may be able to absorb GG's poor play later in the season. But what should be blatantly obvious at this point is the fact we will not be beating the Penn States, Nebraskas, or Minnesotss this season with her wearing that shirt or can we advance deep in the postseason. Absolutely. I think GG also passed statistically better when she’s a DS because the pressure is off. Better for everyone
|
|
|
Post by Burly Ives on Sept 26, 2024 8:19:47 GMT -5
It seems like Sheffield is looking at the middle situation like it’s either CC or Devyn and Booth is a given. Except…Booth is comparatively underperforming? Especially on the block. Is there a chance he sits her? Booth has been regressing and it worries me. There hasn’t been any injury announcements, I wonder if something is going on in her personal life? How and why could she be so stagnant? I would have never predicted this outcome for her. I truly hope whatever she’s going through (physical, mental, emotional) can be improved, because it’s noticeable from the hour we see her on the screen once or twice a week. She was continually burned on quicks and slides. Low VB IQ. Physically she doesn't look limited. I'm more then worried, I'm panicked. We need a big threat offensively at middle especially considering down the stretch in several of our bigger matches Julia has often ended up getting suffocated at the pin and puts on a tip fest and the result our offense becomes oh so predictable. Carter making an offensive leap at middle would help us close out these games and not be so predictable especially when Sarah is in the back row.
|
|
|
Post by SportyBucky on Sept 26, 2024 8:20:40 GMT -5
It seems like Sheffield is looking at the middle situation like it’s either CC or Devyn and Booth is a given. Except…Booth is comparatively underperforming? Especially on the block. Is there a chance he sits her? Booth has been regressing and it worries me. There hasn’t been any injury announcements, I wonder if something is going on in her personal life? How and why could she be so stagnant? I would have never predicted this outcome for her. I truly hope whatever she’s going through (physical, mental, emotional) can be improved, because it’s noticeable from the hour we see her on the screen once or twice a week. From AA to alway absent. I truly cannot remember middle play this bad at WI. Absolutely horrible on the block. Sheff needs to never run a slide with Booth.
|
|
|
Post by Burly Ives on Sept 26, 2024 8:26:21 GMT -5
Booth has been regressing and it worries me. There hasn’t been any injury announcements, I wonder if something is going on in her personal life? How and why could she be so stagnant? I would have never predicted this outcome for her. I truly hope whatever she’s going through (physical, mental, emotional) can be improved, because it’s noticeable from the hour we see her on the screen once or twice a week. From AA to alway absent. I truly cannot remember middle play this bad at WI. Absolutely horrible on the block. Sheff needs to never run a slide with Booth. Absolutely. Booth should study some tape of Tionna Williams. It just seems there is more teeing off from opponants without a hand getting on the ball and that includes other teams back row attacks. We're not in position nearly as often from my perspective.
|
|
|
Post by pepperjack on Sept 26, 2024 8:36:43 GMT -5
Booth has been regressing and it worries me. There hasn’t been any injury announcements, I wonder if something is going on in her personal life? How and why could she be so stagnant? I would have never predicted this outcome for her. I truly hope whatever she’s going through (physical, mental, emotional) can be improved, because it’s noticeable from the hour we see her on the screen once or twice a week. From AA to alway absent. I truly cannot remember middle play this bad at WI. Absolutely horrible on the block. Sheff needs to never run a slide with Booth. She has a few things to improve on yes. But to say NEVER run a slide? That can be worked on in practice. Give her the benefit of doubt. Try to be optimistic, I know it can be challenging from time to time but seriously negativity will cause unnecessary stress and slowly kill you
|
|
|
Post by pepperjack on Sept 26, 2024 9:15:20 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by tablealgebra on Sept 26, 2024 9:37:49 GMT -5
Sure, I don't disagree that Charlie gets too adventurous right now for her own good and her location and tempo are still pretty off a lot. She led Smrek at least twice right into the antenna tonight, and that last set to Booth was a bad set. That definitely played a part, maybe even a large part, in Smrek's and Booth's struggles tonight and this season in general (more Smrek than Booth, who I can't recall even putting down a single overpass this year so far). The thing with GG is, when she struggles, she completely breaks down mentally. We've seen this over and over again. It was evident tonight. She started hitting serves out (5 tonight) and she was unable to dig anything remotely hard hit right at her. Even her bump set calling card was off. Yeah, putting in Lola might not have changed the passing if the past few games' Lola make an appearance, but she at least doesn't break down in all aspects of her game. And we least have an unknown ceiling with Lola, while we know what GG's ceiling is. If we were already going to experiment with the middles trying to find the best combo, why can't Lola at least ride out her rough patches that all freshman have? Not to mention, GG was really struggling, why not pull her to give her some mental reset the way he does with Charlie sometimes? It's not like Lola could have done much worse. Edit: Charlie also has a habit of taking first touches when other players are right there that force us into bump sets or OOS situations. That need to be drilled out of her, first touches are anyone else but her while second touches are only hers. We can't expect Charlie to be final season Hilley good in her first season. Hitter chemistry develops over years of connection not within a few matches and practices. Seems like Lola is more composed than GG. I think with the way the team is playing and if there is no consistency and improvement from the team from the passing, serving, hitting, setting and blocking plus forms of some players like Carter and such, then the team at best's ceiling is Sweet 16 and that's not even guaranteed. Is Charlie even first season Hilley good? She's just really inconsistent, and not playing well under pressure. Since she's won stuff in the past I tend to believe that the pressure thing will go away as she gets more comfortable. But watching the two first-year setters last night on the BTN back-to-back, the difference between Fuerbringer and the other one is ... stark. If we want to contend at the end of the year, the first imperative is that Fuerbringer improves.
|
|
|
Post by badgerguru on Sept 26, 2024 9:56:23 GMT -5
Excited for the arrival of Kristen Simon next year! Also, I hate to say this, but I think Booth will be gone next year too. I’m just not sure if that is really a bad thing for this team though. She looks pretty disengaged from the team & has not had standout performances this year. I hope we can find cohesion in this years group.
|
|
|
Post by SportyBucky on Sept 26, 2024 10:00:23 GMT -5
From AA to alway absent. I truly cannot remember middle play this bad at WI. Absolutely horrible on the block. Sheff needs to never run a slide with Booth. She has a few things to improve on yes. But to say NEVER run a slide? That can be worked on in practice. Give her the benefit of doubt. Try to be optimistic, I know it can be challenging from time to time but seriously negativity will cause unnecessary stress and slowly kill you I'm good, thanks. She's years into being a middle and her approach is not that of a refined middle. She needs to stay in front of the setter. There's no way tk make that fluid, fast and what is needed to succeed. Sorry...but coaching and playing has helped me understand what's possible in a short period of time and what's not.
|
|
|
Post by badgerbyproxy on Sept 26, 2024 10:21:08 GMT -5
We can't expect Charlie to be final season Hilley good in her first season. Hitter chemistry develops over years of connection not within a few matches and practices. Seems like Lola is more composed than GG. I think with the way the team is playing and if there is no consistency and improvement from the team from the passing, serving, hitting, setting and blocking plus forms of some players like Carter and such, then the team at best's ceiling is Sweet 16 and that's not even guaranteed. Is Charlie even first season Hilley good? She's just really inconsistent, and not playing well under pressure. Since she's won stuff in the past I tend to believe that the pressure thing will go away as she gets more comfortable. But watching the two first-year setters last night on the BTN back-to-back, the difference between Fuerbringer and the other one is ... stark. If we want to contend at the end of the year, the first imperative is that Fuerbringer improves. First year Hilley came in in Spring to train with Carlini and the team, so she had more time to establish her connections. With Fuerbringer, we’re seeing a lot of shakiness because she’s had less time to learn her hitters. Starck came in in spring for PSU, so she’s had several months to learn the offense and flow of the PSU game.
|
|
|
Post by dbro1970 on Sept 26, 2024 10:25:48 GMT -5
I dunno, I kind of think coach overestimates his abilities. If we still have subs left I think it was 16-16 in the 5th set, Devyn absolutely should not be serving in that spot. She has proven to in the past get overhyped and serve it long. And if the Badgers are to realize our potential this year, Gúlce cannot be the libero. What previously was confined to bouts of really bad serve receive play has spread to her passing. Saige or Lola needs to gain the experience these next several games OR give Shadd-Ceres the experience now so she is able to help when it really matters in the postseason. Because this is the GG for worse and for better, there isn't some magical switch that can be flipped. I suppose with a more efficient offense ( major Charlie progression) and a block that doesn't flat out disappear at times we may be able to absorb GG's poor play later in the season. But what should be blatantly obvious at this point is the fact we will not be beating the Penn States, Nebraskas, or Minnesotss this season with her wearing that shirt or can we advance deep in the postseason. Absolutely. I think GG also passed statistically better when she’s a DS because the pressure is off. Better for everyone And served better.
|
|
|
Post by Del Bocavista on Sept 26, 2024 10:29:13 GMT -5
We can't expect Charlie to be final season Hilley good in her first season. Hitter chemistry develops over years of connection not within a few matches and practices. Seems like Lola is more composed than GG. I think with the way the team is playing and if there is no consistency and improvement from the team from the passing, serving, hitting, setting and blocking plus forms of some players like Carter and such, then the team at best's ceiling is Sweet 16 and that's not even guaranteed. Is Charlie even first season Hilley good? She's just really inconsistent, and not playing well under pressure. Since she's won stuff in the past I tend to believe that the pressure thing will go away as she gets more comfortable. But watching the two first-year setters last night on the BTN back-to-back, the difference between Fuerbringer and the other one is ... stark. If we want to contend at the end of the year, the first imperative is that Fuerbringer improves. A reminder that the team lost 10 matches with freshman Hilley and with freshman Carlini. Apples to oranges, I know, but I don't think Charlie is the main issue. The lineup has been different, not even every match, but set to set, passing has been terrible, injuries derailing practice time. I don't think the other freshman setters have had this amount of disarray around them. I don't know what can happen this year, but I'd rather deal with Lola's growing pains at L than with a known GG. Even if she doesn't outperfrom GG, I'd rather see her get the chance. And I think they need to pick a lineup re the middles/opp. The person on the bench can become the blocking sub. We need to eliminate some variables for Charlie and let the team grow around her development.
|
|
|
Post by WahineFan44 on Sept 26, 2024 10:33:07 GMT -5
Is Charlie even first season Hilley good? She's just really inconsistent, and not playing well under pressure. Since she's won stuff in the past I tend to believe that the pressure thing will go away as she gets more comfortable. But watching the two first-year setters last night on the BTN back-to-back, the difference between Fuerbringer and the other one is ... stark. If we want to contend at the end of the year, the first imperative is that Fuerbringer improves. A reminder that the team lost 10 matches with freshman Hilley and with freshman Carlini. Apples to oranges, I know, but I don't think Charlie is the main issue. The lineup has been different, not even every match, but set to set, passing has been terrible, injuries derailing practice time. I don't think the other feshman setters have had this amount of disarray around them. I don't know what can happen this year, but I'd rather deal with Lola's growing pains at L than with a known GG. Even if she doesn't outperfrom GG, I'd rather see her get the chance. And I think they need to pick a lineup re the middles/opp. The person on the bench can become the blocking sub. We need to eliminate some variables for Charlie and let the team grow around her development. Carlini was working with a 5,10 middle, 5,8 outside and their previous setter playing right side What carlini did was nothing short of insane It was a once in a lifetime type of impact
|
|
|
Post by dbro1970 on Sept 26, 2024 10:33:37 GMT -5
Looking at live stats, Wisconsin had more aces than Minn, the same number of hitting errors, more blocks, only two fewer digs. But more service errors, and fewer kills. Played like crap for much of the night, and still damn near won. I think this is right. Basically played this one to a draw even though there are 50 different things we can reasonably expect to be better. On the road against a top 20 team that might have been playing above their head. At least that will be what I think tomorrow. Tonight, because I am an emotional adolescent, I am going to let my favorite team’s near-win ruin my night and be grumpy for another 52 minutes. Minnesota had 20+ more points overall. Wisconsin was lucky to make it close.
|
|
|
Post by robtearle on Sept 26, 2024 10:46:28 GMT -5
I think this is right. Basically played this one to a draw even though there are 50 different things we can reasonably expect to be better. On the road against a top 20 team that might have been playing above their head. At least that will be what I think tomorrow. Tonight, because I am an emotional adolescent, I am going to let my favorite team’s near-win ruin my night and be grumpy for another 52 minutes. Minnesota had 20+ more points overall. Wisconsin was lucky to make it close. Minn won two sets by 10 points each. UW won the first set by 6, and the third set by 2, offset by Minn winning the fifth set by two. 20-6 equals 14. Minn had 14 points more.
|
|