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Post by tablealgebra on Oct 28, 2024 15:45:26 GMT -5
I hear you... but during non-con, I felt like Lola was getting aced by tough services and GG was just getting aced. I have no data to back that up. Just an eye test and some lingering frustration regarding a libero who can't pass. The biggest thing I noticed from eye test (and I did chart some of the matches too), is that when Lola got aced, it didn't affect her next pass. GG would clearly get rattled by aces causing her subsequent passes to also be worse. I honestly, I think that is GG's flaw at libero. She isn't able to act like a goldfish in serve receive. Defensively, she is going more off reaction, doesn't have time to think. But in serve receive, one bad shank and it throws her off her game. Right. As someone who still thinks that GG would be our best libero if she could, as you say, act like a goldfish in serve receive, I think you are absolutely right that her issue is not acting like a goldfish. (though I also think it's well known that she struggles with deep serves) |
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Post by maigrey on Oct 28, 2024 15:47:29 GMT -5
Getting to a #5 or #6 seed means probably overcoming TX or/and Stanford, teams we lost to. Might be tough. I'm mostly thinking of scenarios with WI having 1-2 more losses. Maybe 1 (like at NE). WI resume might very well be better than TX at that point, even with the head to head loss. Stanford resume would seem quite good though. Then there's Creighton of course. In-state friend Marquette could sure do WI a favor in Milwaukee (but that's of course less likely than in other years). I think we just passed Texas since they lost to TAMU Weds, a team we've beaten already. They've also lost to Miami. That's two losses to unranked teams. The lowest ranked team the badgers have lost to is 15 Minnesota. The top B1G team is a top 4 seed. If the badgers win out, they get a seed. But that's a tough ask. If they get another loss, I think it would have to be one of the matches to Nebraska because i think only one team from the B1G will in the top 4 this year, and if PSU wins they get inside track on the badgers - presuming the Lions don't lose other matches. The badgers have to then hope PSU beats the huskers. Badgers can't afford two more losses unless somebody up top stumbles unexpectedly. I don't see who Creighton looses to in the big east. I think they get in unless the committee punishes them for basically being in the Big East. If Creighton gets in I only think 2 ACC teams will get into the top four and it's looking to me like Stanford will miss out. Somebody would have to lose to a team outside that group to open a window. SMU could be a spoiler (scratch that, those matches are done). Maybe UNC? Don't think it will be GT. I think it's pretty likely that Creighton doesn't get the top 4 seed because they're in the BE, tbh. |
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Post by tablealgebra on Oct 28, 2024 15:50:37 GMT -5
What is the point of her winning both awards? I think it says enough if she wins setter of the week. Why didn’t Charlie win freshman of the week? Wisconsin: 2-0 (3-0 Indiana; 3-0 Purdue) Charlie Fuerbringer (FRESHMAN) - 11.7 aps (TEAM: .271), 0.8 aces per set, 1.0 bps Penn State: 2-0 (3-2 UCLA; 3-1 USC) Izzy Starck (FRESHMAN) - 9.8 aps (TEAM: .240), 1.4 kps (.423), 3.3 dps Someone pls explain why they would pick Izzy before I riot I think Charlie got robbed on this one. They are so focused in on Izzy they are not doing fair evaluations any more. It looks like Izzy is getting rewarded for her team taking more sets to win. You would think that the shelacking of top Ten Purdue due largely to Charlies play setting, defensively, and her serving that was described by Eva Hudson as perhaps the best she ever faced would have counted for more. I know Charlie's serve was key against Purdue but did you all watch Izzy vs USC? I don't see any issue with the voting. (Also I think Starck is just that good, clearly SOY this year is a three-person race between her, Reilly and Shaffmaster and I don't think she's an also-ran in that race) Also, aps is a stupid stat to judge setters on. |
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Post by maigrey on Oct 28, 2024 15:52:46 GMT -5
7th makes sense to me based off resume, but I really think they are a top 4 team in this moment. If they were to play everyone above us in a neutral site this week I'd feel confident betting on them to beat Stanford and Creighton, fairly confident about Penn State, Nebraska and Louisville, and I think they'd have a shot at Pitt. 7th is fine for now, i think top 4 only happens if they win the B1G, so can kill two birds with one stone. If they don't win the B1G, I just hope they aren't 8th or 9th and in Pitts region. Definitely want Pitt at neutral site if they play them in the tourney. top 4 will happen when they beat Nebraska and PSU in the next 2 weeks. |
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Post by volleyball90 on Oct 28, 2024 16:46:23 GMT -5
The biggest thing I noticed from eye test (and I did chart some of the matches too), is that when Lola got aced, it didn't affect her next pass. GG would clearly get rattled by aces causing her subsequent passes to also be worse. I honestly, I think that is GG's flaw at libero. She isn't able to act like a goldfish in serve receive. Defensively, she is going more off reaction, doesn't have time to think. But in serve receive, one bad shank and it throws her off her game. Right. As someone who still thinks that GG would be our best libero if she could, as you say, act like a goldfish in serve receive, I think you are absolutely right that her issue is not acting like a goldfish. (though I also think it's well known that she struggles with deep serves) The deep serves is a very good point. I’ve never seen GG take a ball with her hands where as Orzol and Lola will do it every match. There is no reason for players to not take deep serves with their hands. |
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Post by pull3 on Oct 28, 2024 19:02:46 GMT -5
I will go out on a limb and say B1G(not sure who yet) and ACC(Pitt+1) each gets 2 regions. AND the commitee will put same conference on 1 side.
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Post by swaggyp on Oct 28, 2024 20:42:54 GMT -5
I will go out on a limb and say B1G(not sure who yet) and ACC(Pitt+1) each gets 2 regions. AND the commitee will put same conference on 1 side. This would be great for Bucky so I hope you are right, but I bet they will try very hard to get at least 3 conferences represented. |
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Post by pull3 on Oct 28, 2024 20:55:45 GMT -5
I will go out on a limb and say B1G(not sure who yet) and ACC(Pitt+1) each gets 2 regions. AND the commitee will put same conference on 1 side. This would be great for Bucky so I hope you are right, but I bet they will try very hard to get at least 3 conferences represented.
It will be Creighton or B1G. Let's root Creighton for a loss at Marquette. There is no 4th conference competing btw, sorry Texas.
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Post by tablealgebra on Oct 28, 2024 21:03:21 GMT -5
I will go out on a limb and say B1G(not sure who yet) and ACC(Pitt+1) each gets 2 regions. AND the commitee will put same conference on 1 side. It would be a shocker for Nebraska to not get a regional host - I think they'd have to lose three matches at least, and unless they screw up out west (they do play at Oregon) it would have to be PSU and Wisconsin away and either Wisconsin or Minnesota at Devaney. And Penn State really only has to go 1-1 vs us and Nebraska to ensure hosting. We have to win out to host. I think this team is where I wanted to see it now, but I don't think it's good enough to win out. Please, team, prove me wrong. |
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Post by pull3 on Oct 28, 2024 21:19:22 GMT -5
I will go out on a limb and say B1G(not sure who yet) and ACC(Pitt+1) each gets 2 regions. AND the commitee will put same conference on 1 side. It would be a shocker for Nebraska to not get a regional host - I think they'd have to lose three matches at least, and unless they screw up out west (they do play at Oregon) it would have to be PSU and Wisconsin away and either Wisconsin or Minnesota at Devaney. And Penn State really only has to go 1-1 vs us and Nebraska to ensure hosting. We have to win out to host. I think this team is where I wanted to see it now, but I don't think it's good enough to win out. Please, team, prove me wrong.
The Wisconsin-Nebraska-PSU roundups are very unpredictable imo, given that Nebraska and PSU aren't impressive on their home court, anyone can lose all of them. Obviously the margin of errors for the Badgers is very low.
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Post by basil on Oct 28, 2024 21:28:38 GMT -5
It would be a shocker for Nebraska to not get a regional host - I think they'd have to lose three matches at least, and unless they screw up out west (they do play at Oregon) it would have to be PSU and Wisconsin away and either Wisconsin or Minnesota at Devaney. And Penn State really only has to go 1-1 vs us and Nebraska to ensure hosting. We have to win out to host. I think this team is where I wanted to see it now, but I don't think it's good enough to win out. Please, team, prove me wrong.
The Wisconsin-Nebraska-PSU roundups are very unpredictable imo, given that Nebraska and PSU aren't impressive on their home court, anyone can lose all of them. Obviously the margin of errors for the Badgers is very low. PSU isn't impressive on their home court? |
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Post by pull3 on Oct 28, 2024 21:34:36 GMT -5
The Wisconsin-Nebraska-PSU roundups are very unpredictable imo, given that Nebraska and PSU aren't impressive on their home court, anyone can lose all of them. Obviously the margin of errors for the Badgers is very low. PSU isn't impressive on their home court?
yeah, kinda dropping sets to doormats. I also said this when the Badgers met unbeaten Washington.
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Post by badgerguru on Oct 28, 2024 21:37:57 GMT -5
PSU isn't impressive on their home court?
yeah, kinda dropping sets to doormats. I also said this when the Badgers met unbeaten Washington.
Yale, Michigan State, & Maryland |
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Post by pull3 on Oct 28, 2024 21:47:23 GMT -5
yeah, kinda dropping sets to doormats. I also said this when the Badgers met unbeaten Washington.
Yale, Michigan State, & Maryland
not to mention close sets with freaking Ball St. and James Madison.
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Post by badgerbreath on Oct 28, 2024 22:24:46 GMT -5
PSU will be up for the badgers. I don't expect that to be an easy match. I probably shouldn't buy beer for that one.
Rewatching that Purdue match, and really the badgers can do much better on offense than those first two sets. Especially considering that the passing was pretty good. Connections were a little loose. Felt like Sarah was off balance a lot on her swings. It's really such a hard team to set, the hitters are so different in their windows and preferred tempos.
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