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Post by SportyBucky on Jan 7, 2024 13:02:00 GMT -5
That's not at all clear. It means we need an experienced back up setter. I was explaining that by getting Carly, it means that we're near certain to run the 6-2 again. What we also need in addition to an experienced backup setter is a Libero NOT an OH is what I'm trying to explain afterwards. Oh I get it and you're completely wrong, in my opinion. Setters are apples and oranges. Charlie is the best setter to graduate in a more than a few years. She's run an offense and helped a team win a world championship. While I'm sure the setter from Montana is great, she's not Charlie. It's not close. Charlie will run a 5-1 because she is just that good and you do not want a player like that off the court. Copy this post and use it to throw in my face if I'm wrong. I'm pretty certain I'm not. |
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Post by maigrey on Jan 7, 2024 13:07:46 GMT -5
I was explaining that by getting Carly, it means that we're near certain to run the 6-2 again. What we also need in addition to an experienced backup setter is a Libero NOT an OH is what I'm trying to explain afterwards. Oh I get it and you're completely wrong, in my opinion. Setters are apples and oranges. Charlie is the best setter to graduate in a more than a few years. She's run an offense and helped a team win a world championship. While I'm sure the setter from Montana is great, she's not Charlie. It's not close. Charlie will run a 5-1 because she is just that good and you do not want a player like that off the court. Copy this post and use it to throw in my face if I'm wrong. I'm pretty certain I'm not. Yeah, I think it will give us the option of a double sub to get out of a sticky situation. And if, stars forbid, Charlie struggles in a 5-1, we have the option of a 6-2. I can't see where our regular lineup is a 6-2. I will caveat this, with the fact that I am sure Kelly will play multiple chairs during non-con so we might see a 5-1 and a 6-2 and who knows just like the TTA era. So, I'm pretty sure we will SEE the 6-2 at some point in non-con, but I doubt we'll go into B1G play in that system. |
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Post by chibadgerfan on Jan 7, 2024 13:08:33 GMT -5
That's not at all clear. It means we need an experienced back up setter. What we also need in addition to an experienced backup setter is a Libero NOT an OH is what I'm trying to explain afterwards. For 2024, we have 3 OHs — Franklin, Orzol, and Shadd-Ceres, while we have 4 DSs — Güçtekin, Damrow, Schumacher, and Chan. I think the need for another OH is greater. |
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Post by 25or624 on Jan 7, 2024 13:17:07 GMT -5
What we also need in addition to an experienced backup setter is a Libero NOT an OH is what I'm trying to explain afterwards. For 2024, we have 3 OHs — Franklin, Orzol, and Shadd-Ceres, while we have 4 DSs — Güçtekin, Damrow, Schumacher, and Chan. I think the need for another OH is greater. In addition, Sheff told Punzel less than 2 weeks ago that he is looking for an experienced setter and depth for OH in the portal. Sheff can be unpredictable, but the best available evidence is an OH with the next BINGO. |
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Post by swaggyp on Jan 7, 2024 14:05:00 GMT -5
I don't think we'll see the 6-2 next year at least not in the B1G season. HOWEVER, it would solve the Devyn/CC/Cardi B/Smrek rubiks cube.
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Post by Wiswell on Jan 7, 2024 14:10:39 GMT -5
I was explaining that by getting Carly, it means that we're near certain to run the 6-2 again. What we also need in addition to an experienced backup setter is a Libero NOT an OH is what I'm trying to explain afterwards. Oh I get it and you're completely wrong, in my opinion. Setters are apples and oranges. Charlie is the best setter to graduate in a more than a few years. She's run an offense and helped a team win a world championship. While I'm sure the setter from Montana is great, she's not Charlie. It's not close. Charlie will run a 5-1 because she is just that good and you do not want a player like that off the court. Copy this post and use it to throw in my face if I'm wrong. I'm pretty certain I'm not. Usually Sportybucky's posts are, generously, inelegant. But I have to agree 100 percent here. Montana is the Big Sky Conference. I'm grateful she's coming in, because her experience is going to be super, but I don't see her getting regular PT. I'd venture the speed of the game in the Big Sky is similar to what Charlie has seen. |
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Post by vbdiva on Jan 7, 2024 14:25:56 GMT -5
What we also need in addition to an experienced backup setter is a Libero NOT an OH is what I'm trying to explain afterwards. For 2024, we have 3 OHs — Franklin, Orzol, and Shadd-Ceres, while we have 4 DSs — Güçtekin, Damrow, Schumacher, and Chan. I think the need for another OH is greater. Orzol needs to stay at L - we need one seasoned OH to put us to the top.... |
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Post by talkbdgrvb65 on Jan 7, 2024 15:29:55 GMT -5
That's not at all clear. It means we need an experienced back up setter. I was explaining that by getting Carly, it means that we're near certain to run the 6-2 again. What we also need in addition to an experienced backup setter is a Libero NOT an OH is what I'm trying to explain afterwards. And I'll bet Badgers do NOT go 6-2 again. I fully believe the point of this is to have an experienced backup setter. Period, full stop. In fact didn't Sheffield say that's what he was looking for from the portal? |
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Post by talkbdgrvb65 on Jan 7, 2024 15:31:33 GMT -5
I was explaining that by getting Carly, it means that we're near certain to run the 6-2 again. What we also need in addition to an experienced backup setter is a Libero NOT an OH is what I'm trying to explain afterwards. Oh I get it and you're completely wrong, in my opinion. Setters are apples and oranges. Charlie is the best setter to graduate in a more than a few years. She's run an offense and helped a team win a world championship. While I'm sure the setter from Montana is great, she's not Charlie. It's not close. Charlie will run a 5-1 because she is just that good and you do not want a player like that off the court. Copy this post and use it to throw in my face if I'm wrong. I'm pretty certain I'm not. 100%!!! |
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Post by SportyBucky on Jan 7, 2024 16:25:41 GMT -5
Oh I get it and you're completely wrong, in my opinion. Setters are apples and oranges. Charlie is the best setter to graduate in a more than a few years. She's run an offense and helped a team win a world championship. While I'm sure the setter from Montana is great, she's not Charlie. It's not close. Charlie will run a 5-1 because she is just that good and you do not want a player like that off the court. Copy this post and use it to throw in my face if I'm wrong. I'm pretty certain I'm not. Usually Sportybucky's posts are, generously, inelegant. But I have to agree 100 percent here. Montana is the Big Sky Conference. I'm grateful she's coming in, because her experience is going to be super, but I don't see her getting regular PT. I'd venture the speed of the game in the Big Sky is similar to what Charlie has seen. 🙄 Perhaps inelegant, nearly always correct. Wholly indifferent to perception in alternate reality. |
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Post by badgerbreath on Jan 7, 2024 17:28:19 GMT -5
Really doubt we WON'T be going to a 5-1. [Edit: I said this backward before]. I think Sheff like most coaches likes to stick to one system. A 6-2 takes longer to get going because of the extra time needed to get used to two setters often setting the same players. Not sure the badgers have that much practice time to give with so many freshman only arriving in summer.
I think Carly will provide a skilled depth at the setting position setting and may come in situationally as a serving specialist or a backrow setter. Most importantly, she provides experience at a position where there is none in 2024. That will be helpful. Really happy Sheff landed her. Didn't think he was going to ger a good option there.
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Post by mnwis20 on Jan 7, 2024 17:35:14 GMT -5
I was explaining that by getting Carly, it means that we're near certain to run the 6-2 again. What we also need in addition to an experienced backup setter is a Libero NOT an OH is what I'm trying to explain afterwards. And I'll bet Badgers do NOT go 6-2 again. I fully believe the point of this is to have an experienced backup setter. Period, full stop. In fact didn't Sheffield say that's what he was looking for from the portal? Yea that’s basically exactly what was said in the recent piece by Punzel: “ He’s looking for somebody with some experience who can push Fuerbringer for the job but also handle a support role and perhaps contribute in other ways. “I’m not looking for somebody who’s an elite setter and has four years left,” he said. “We’re pretty open with everybody throughout the process. Somebody that can set an experienced team and is going to compete. “We don’t guarantee playing time to anybody, so come in here and compete your butt off. I think somebody that’s got 1-2 years of eligibility left would be an ideal situation for us.” While he searches for an experienced setter, Sheffield doesn’t fret over the likelihood of playing a freshman setter on a team with championship aspirations. He doesn’t have to look far to find precedents for teams succeeding in that situation. “I’ve had four starting setters in my 11 years here,” he said. “Two of them that ran a 5-1 (Lauren Carlini and Sydney Hilley) and both of them started as freshmen, both of them became multiple-year first-team All-Americans, led their teams to the Final Four, one to a national championship, both to Big Ten titles.” badgerextra.com/sports/volleyball/wisconsin-volleyball-5-things-sheffield-franklin/article_384646b6-a41d-11ee-a410-1f87c250ecd0.html |
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Post by rainbowbadger on Jan 7, 2024 17:35:42 GMT -5
IMO running a 5-1 is Charlie’s to lose.
I hope we get a good OH for depth and/or to allow us to put Oz at libero. I just don’t know who’s left in the portal or uncommitted to fill that hole.
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Post by robtearle on Jan 7, 2024 17:56:41 GMT -5
There is 'value' to using a single setter in terms of consistency and in the number of subs NOT used. There is 'value' in getting all four of our middles/opposites onto the court in terms of front row blocking and attacking.
Which adds more 'value'? I don't know. But I have faith that Sheffield and coaches will make the call they thinks adds the most net value.
I'll "let" them make the call. :-)
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Post by ndodge on Jan 7, 2024 18:28:46 GMT -5
Also, congrats to our own first team all-volleytalk rainbowbadger ! May there be many more fun facts in our future! ❤️ And congrats to you, All-Rookie |
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