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Post by vvv on Nov 2, 2024 16:49:14 GMT -5
I think you may be on to something. I do notice a difference within the last few games. Something is working.
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Post by bbg95 on Nov 2, 2024 17:57:10 GMT -5
A little note about Prior. A little while ago Prior changed her swing pretty significantly; particularly, for a mid season change. She's using a much compact swing than before. More wrist snap too. It seems to be paying off. She's doesn't generate the same velocity, but it does seem to do the following for her: (1) she's able to hit the ball before seems close up on her (she was really only successful before when she could go over the top ), adjust to the ball better when the set isn't perfect (she struggled here too before ... it may have been her biggest problem), and (3) she's generating a lot of topspin.
I think it will be interesting to watch how well this adjustment continues to work. Right now her hitting location and topspin is giving teams trouble. We'll see how defenses adjust.
I do think the coaching staff deserves some credit here. It has made Prior a lot more effective the past couple of weeks. I'm not sure when the change was made, but since the TCU match (Prior really struggled in the three preceding matches) she's hitting 33-10-77 (.299). There were a couple bad matches in there, but overall, that's pretty good. It would be nice to have a viable option on the right side. |
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Post by bkedane on Nov 2, 2024 18:02:56 GMT -5
Oh but we do have a successful program. That doesn't mean we have the best program we could have? I don't think I care enough to tell the AD. But, I can state what I agree with or have seen while watching. If I had a child in this situation though.... believe me... I would be the first one knocking down his door. So you believe Marn's conspiracy theories? Of course fans can talk negatively and positively about whst they see in matches. The wild speculation about how starters are chosen and who performs best in practices people don't see and the best players being on the bench because somehow the Bowers are in charge [is that still the theory]...that's all gross misconduct if true. If marn has any evidencd for any of this a report should be filed with the AD. |
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Post by loversrock on Nov 2, 2024 18:57:37 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm not going to read any of the seven consecutive posts that Marn spammed on this thread. The block feature is one of the best parts of VT. Yet, you are reading them enough to know that there were 7 consecutive posts lol! Keep up the good work bbg! See how insignificant and uneducated you are?! Uluave was heavily recruited as a Libero despite having previously played OH/6R in high school and at club. Six of the teams that came after her are now ranked in the top 20, including Stanford/Baylor and SMU, where her elder sister concluded her final college year. Again, your opinions are as ridiculous as your hatred for The Bowers and Heather. |
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Post by vvv on Nov 2, 2024 20:01:43 GMT -5
I know... I see what you are saying. You have good points that I agree with too. But, I guess sone of his theories make sense to me too. I mean, how does he know about conversations heather has with players? Either total lies or he has some connection. When he brings up meyer and damuni and both not seeming to get the chance to actually compete in the setter position during spring, it does make me scratch my head? Maybe not a true bower conspiracy, but enough to make me wonder. If it was one of my own kids, I would wonder way more. As far as how advanced either of them were compared to the bowers is not proven because they never really got to compete in spring. I think Meyer declared redshirt after spring play. Myself and many others thought that damuni, when put in this spring, was the better setter all around. But, she wasn't given the same amount of sets as bower. The sets she did play, she won- the ones I watched. I watched Meyer in a blue and white game and her team killed bower's team. As far as club teams, I know it is a team sport, but I wasn't going off of the team play when I said Damuni was not less advanced than bower. I was going off of watching both setters play against each other and watching what both did as setters with defense, blocking, hitting, setting etc. But, especially nowadays without the double calls, it almost seems like anyone can play setter as long as you are DI material and got the right hitters in place, etc. I heard the commentators say something like that today too. I feel both Meyer and Damuni were starter material with drive and push, but for some reason, they were not given the chance to compete. Of course I see bower with push through the 5 set matches this year and today was awesome with the sweep. But, if you did watch damuni play her whole life, you would know she is made up of that too. I see meyer is as well as she is killing it at long beach. But, at the end of the day, it is up to the coaches and what they see presently and in the future and you are right about the outsiders, like us, being irrelevant in this matter LOL.
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Post by bbg95 on Nov 2, 2024 20:14:09 GMT -5
Yet, you are reading them enough to know that there were 7 consecutive posts lol! Keep up the good work bbg! See how insignificant and uneducated you are?! Uluave was heavily recruited as a Libero despite having previously played OH/6R in high school and at club. Six of the teams that came after her are now ranked in the top 20, including Stanford/Baylor and SMU, where her elder sister concluded her final college year. Again, your opinions are as ridiculous as your hatred for The Bowers and Heather. Lol, I like how marn thinks I read their posts. Since they're blocked, all their posts are hidden. But on mobile, you can still see the post author. |
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Post by bbg95 on Nov 2, 2024 20:19:28 GMT -5
I mean, how does he know about conversations heather has with players? Either total lies or he has some connection. I'm confident marn has zero inside information. They say so many things that are demonstrably false and easily disproven that I find it impossible to believe that they actually have the kind of inside knowledge of the program they pretend to. Especially since there are other posters over the years who I think actually did have some inside knowledge that refuted marn's claims. This is the thing that bothers me the most about marn. If they just had terrible opinions about BYU volleyball, that would be one thing. Annoying but relatively harmless. But pretending to be an insider when they aren't is malicious in my view. |
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Post by azvb on Nov 2, 2024 20:35:08 GMT -5
Does Heather use The Cauldron to choose starting lineups?
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Post by marnvbc2 on Nov 2, 2024 22:45:25 GMT -5
I haven't heard that Eden is hurt. Makes me wonder?? This team is filled with problems created by Heather. Eden shouldn't have been recruited. A host of other OH's have wasted their time on this team. Stowell should have transferred last year because she would have been good enough to play for a better team than BYU. Never given a real shot courtesy of Heather. Mortensen has nailed down the OH2 but she has very limited upside with lack of hops and a low ball. Little is a very good hitter and simply an awkward athlete on defense and S/R. She is a liability on the back row and will become more so as teams scout us. Our freshman Lulu is laterally challenged and therefore will be a DS for her whole career. We have no true L but lots of DS's with Miller and Johnson in the mix. Johnson is better than Miller and Miller shouldn't have been recruited but courtesy of Club V Johnson was shelved at the Y. BYU needs to put 6-7 passers on their roster so they can find 2 who can play. The bright spot is at middle where we have a superstar in the making. Lee should have never played MB and always been at Opp. Prior should have switched to MB last year when Lee should have played Opp. It didn't take a vb genius to see this issue. The problem going forward is that Heather simply can't evaluate passing talent and spends her time with OH's who she can't stomach because they aren't named Eden .... until it dawns on her that Eden really can't jump, move or hit well and the Mortensen legacy recruit shows up. 2 years too late. The conductor of the team is the setter and Alex is 3 inches taller than Whitney but can't jump as high, play defense as well, set and locate as well nor serve as effective. Damuni showed the door without even a sniff of competition on the floor or in matches. It is mind boggling to most observers. I thought 6-7 losses would be the floor for this team. They might loose 10-12 matches this season. Utah may be a better team and probably is. Just so disappointing and i have no faith that the chain will be broken into the future with more Bowers in the pipeline and Heather with her blinders on. My reading comprehension is just fine, I just called it out for what it is when I see your sorry comments flying around like your opinion is concrete. No out of context here. You obviously can’t see talent even when it’s right in front of your face. Uluave is definitely a Libero in the making and has what it takes to become one of the best ever to play at BYU. Damuni is absolutely a baller and has a different style of play. I’ve watched Damuni her whole life so this isn’t a bias stance. I will admit, her handwork is cleaner than Bower, but Bower has a motor to keep pushing. We’ve seen it time after time with these 5th set matches. The fact that you think Lee is the best on the team still cracks me up. Just because Uluave is the best DS on the BYU roster and by default is now the libero doesn't make her great. She isn't an elite DS and certainly not an elite L. But she is good enough to play DS at BYU if there is an elite L on the roster. Look at her passing stats buddy. She isn't in the top half of D-1. When you are the best at BYU but not in the top half of L's in the B12 there is no queening her yet. Your reading comprehension in still lacking. Calling Lee the best athlete on the team is fact. I didn't call her the best player. You said I did and rather than showing where I called her the best player, you deflect. |
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Post by marnvbc2 on Nov 2, 2024 23:03:04 GMT -5
Yet, you are reading them enough to know that there were 7 consecutive posts lol! Keep up the good work bbg! See how insignificant and uneducated you are?! Uluave was heavily recruited as a Libero despite having previously played OH/6R in high school and at club. Six of the teams that came after her are now ranked in the top 20, including Stanford/Baylor and SMU, where her elder sister concluded her final college year. Again, your opinions are as ridiculous as your hatred for The Bowers and Heather. I don't care who Uluave was recruited by. It is like bbg saying E Bower was recruited by other big programs so she should have been recruited by BYU. Everyone on here beat me with a stick when BYU first signed E Bower. I said she wouldn't amount to anything special and shouldn't be recruited. All you have to do was watch her in club. No vert, no timing, a horrible arm swing and blocking issues. Plus, to go along with other BYU OH's, she couldn't pass at all. So, to think BYU would somehow miraculously change her wasn't going to happen. Uluave will always find playing time at BYU but if she is the libero, BYU will not win a Sweet 16 match and might not make the round of 16 at all. She isn't a great passer, mostly because she can't move quick enough laterally. Watch and wait and let me know when her passing numbers put her in the top 30 in the country. |
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Post by marnvbc2 on Nov 2, 2024 23:10:43 GMT -5
Yet, you are reading them enough to know that there were 7 consecutive posts lol! Keep up the good work bbg! See how insignificant and uneducated you are?! Uluave was heavily recruited as a Libero despite having previously played OH/6R in high school and at club. Six of the teams that came after her are now ranked in the top 20, including Stanford/Baylor and SMU, where her elder sister concluded her final college year. Again, your opinions are as ridiculous as your hatred for The Bowers and Heather. Well Uluave made a good decision to go to BYU then! She wouldn't be playing anywhere at Stanford, SMU or any other top 20 program. Maybe she plays DS for Baylor?? Anyway, she has less competition at BYU than anywhere else. |
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Post by loversrock on Nov 3, 2024 4:33:19 GMT -5
See how insignificant and uneducated you are?! Uluave was heavily recruited as a Libero despite having previously played OH/6R in high school and at club. Six of the teams that came after her are now ranked in the top 20, including Stanford/Baylor and SMU, where her elder sister concluded her final college year. Again, your opinions are as ridiculous as your hatred for The Bowers and Heather. Well Uluave made a good decision to go to BYU then! She wouldn't be playing anywhere at Stanford, SMU or any other top 20 program. Maybe she plays DS for Baylor?? Anyway, she has less competition at BYU than anywhere else. After proving you did in fact say that Uluave was going to be a DS her whole career, you double down on your stupidity. This is why no one takes anything you say seriously. You’re like the idiot from Waterboy, “That’s the best hit since Joe Montana.” “Joe Montana was a Quarterback you idiot.” “I said Joe Montania.” lol you’re a joke and no one cares about your opinion. You’re a clown.🤡 |
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Post by marnvbc2 on Nov 3, 2024 12:47:40 GMT -5
Well Uluave made a good decision to go to BYU then! She wouldn't be playing anywhere at Stanford, SMU or any other top 20 program. Maybe she plays DS for Baylor?? Anyway, she has less competition at BYU than anywhere else. After proving you did in fact say that Uluave was going to be a DS her whole career, you double down on your stupidity. This is why no one takes anything you say seriously. You’re like the idiot from Waterboy, “That’s the best hit since Joe Montana.” “Joe Montana was a Quarterback you idiot.” “I said Joe Montania.” lol you’re a joke and no one cares about your opinion. You’re a clown.🤡 Well, I can see you can't read passing stats. Try learning them. When your elite (I would even settle for just "good'' libero at this point for BYU) actually enters the top 50 D-1 passers in the country, then let me know. You said that I said Mia Lee was the best player on the team - now you see that you made that up. I said Uluave will be no better than a pretty good DS at BYU. They can put the L jersey on her all they want, it still won't make her a good passer. Just because the passers on the team are worse than Lulu doesn't make her a top Libero. The passing stats will give an unbiased look at her skills. Neither your defense of her average passing or my opinion that she won't ever be an elite Libero is more important that the stats. You must be her dad?? |
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Post by DaTruf on Nov 3, 2024 14:21:18 GMT -5
FLAG ON THE PLAY! Please stop personal attacks. If you want more interaction and higher quality commentary then stop sounding like cackling hens in The Music Man, "CHEEP, CHEEP, CHEEP, talk a lot, pick a little more." Everyone has great, meh, and bad commentary. Here is some AI Generated wisdom:
Respect is the foundation of constructive dialogue.
Be confident, creative, engaging, and assertive.
Support your opinion with evidence.
Ask yourself, "Is my post helpful, respectful, and true?"
Seek common ground, be open-minded.
Our "Major Contributors" (bbg, vvv, marn, azvb, etc) all have great points and some we might not agree with. I agree with many if not all of your interesting thoughts and opinions. Just keep this forum respectful and we'll get more commentary, insightful questions, and engagement from the regular Joes who want to join the excitement and without fear of public ridicule. Who likes to read that?
I'll share my thoughts to restart this community dialogue in an engaging and respectful way.
1. I like what marn has to say a lot of times. He's pretty insightful, and I love how he's a One Man Army and still confident with his thoughts.
2. bkedane (who has good commentary) recently asked a question about "is the BYU AD aware ..." which I thought was an interesting question. I can say that I've observed in person, pics, and video that the AD and the Bower parents are also close friends. So I believe Heather's success as a coach and her kinship with the Bower Parents and the AD gives her latitude in this phenomena and the AD is supportive.
3. Finally, pelagaus (who also has good commentary) mentioned Prior. My thoughts around Prior (and I have no proof but still think it's a good theory) is that Karch may have suggested Prior be developed as an OPP and Heather agreed. My supporting evidence is: a) Prior is built like a potentially powerful OPP at the next level, and b) Prior has been invited and trained with Karch and USA in the OPP position every year since arriving at BYU. Prior is built to block and she's learning the position and a new swing. I have no idea if Lee would be a better OPP or not. Does Lee still practice at OPP or MB in practices?
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Post by rrvbfan on Nov 3, 2024 14:45:01 GMT -5
Once again, marn is all over the place. I think Eden was recruited by some other big programs (I want to say Nebraska was one of them). She didn't end up being that good at the next level, which happens. As for Stowell, maybe she actually likes the school and doesn't want to transfer? Crazy, I know. And I think she was given a fair shot the last couple of seasons. Unfortunately, she wasn't as consistent as she needed to be to lock it down. Anyway, it will be amusing to see marn twist themself into a pretzel by continuing to push the "Heather has a pro-Bower bias" nonsense when Eden is getting no playing time, lol. Again, the best of the Bowers is a professional volleyball player going into her second season. The ones that weren't very good got benched. We'll see on Alex. Pure hogwash bbg that Eden was recruited by Jalen and John at Nebraska. The only source for that misinformation that you continually pushed the last 3 years is mom/dad Bower. She was very a good OH and you were on her train from the beginning. You laughed at every mention that I made that Eden couldn't jump, move laterally, play defense or serve. She could hit but her swing is so unorthodox that it gets her a few kills until the blocker realize that they just need to leave late .... then Eden shut down. BTW, Alex will be a forever under performer because BYU should have Damuni at setter for 3 years straight. Damuni beat Alex Bower at every turn in club. Never lost to her ..... ever and Damuni is simply a step above Bower in setting. There was a difference between W Bower and Meyer ... with Meyer being better but the gap between A Bower and Damuni is way bigger that Meyer/W Bower. this is one of the ugliest and messiest posts I have ever seen on here. The level of personal attacks and plain meanness is yucky. |
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