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Post by hawkfan on Aug 17, 2024 15:53:25 GMT -5
It has been wild, indeed! I do think there is a solid core group starting here, and there are some quality recruits committed for both '25 and '26. Sure hoping for some strides to be made starting this fall and in next few seasons. I can’t imagine the challenges with taking over a program on NCAA sanctions, vacating 3 seasons of wins and losing just about every impact player. Bringing in a bunch of grads and upperclassman to fill the void and then they are gone in year 2. I like the talent they have pulled in. Upsets will be a big deal for the Hawkeyes. It believe it was only 2 seasons of wins that needed to be vacated, four years before Barnes arrived (2017 and 2018), but yes, a tall task to take over when he did for sure. I, too, like the talent on this year's team and am encouraged by future commits thus far as well. Bring on some upsets this fall!
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Post by photos1 on Aug 17, 2024 16:27:25 GMT -5
It has been wild, indeed! I do think there is a solid core group starting here, and there are some quality recruits committed for both '25 and '26. Sure hoping for some strides to be made starting this fall and in next few seasons. I can’t imagine the challenges with taking over a program on NCAA sanctions, vacating 3 seasons of wins and losing just about every impact player. Bringing in a bunch of grads and upperclassman to fill the void and then they are gone in year 2. I like the talent they have pulled in. Upsets will be a big deal for the Hawkeyes. Any match Iowa wins in the B1G in 2024 will be a colossal upset. They have, by a sizable amount, the worst roster in the conference. Barnes has done a Deion Sanders redo on the roster but, with the exception of the ex-Central Michigan setter who may only be the tenth best setter in this conference, but is skilled, and the Serbian, it is hard to see any other newcomer who is skilled enough to play in this league. And let’s be clear, if any of these newcomers pops out, someone will steal them in the portal next December. Iowa, with this staff, is in a death spiral. Maybe Iowa can compete against Northwestern (but NWs new Coach Tim Nolan brought his mighty Grand Canyon team into Iowa City last fall and beat Iowa) but I wouldn’t count on it. As for Rutgers, their roster is inferior to Rutgers. 2-18 at best, but I don’t believe they will win a match. They lost their final 29 conference sets last fall, so they need to focus on winning a few sets. Heck, maybe Minnesota will come in totally unprepared like they did last fall and allow Iowa to win a couple of sets. Barnes is in desperation mode looking for quick fixes, I don’t know if that is possible in this conference. I fear only a named coach who can actually attract B1G level recruits and portal players can offer any hope. But we’ll see how it goes. 0-20
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Post by hawkfan on Aug 17, 2024 16:41:02 GMT -5
I can’t imagine the challenges with taking over a program on NCAA sanctions, vacating 3 seasons of wins and losing just about every impact player. Bringing in a bunch of grads and upperclassman to fill the void and then they are gone in year 2. I like the talent they have pulled in. Upsets will be a big deal for the Hawkeyes. Any match Iowa wins in the B1G in 2024 will be a colossal upset. They have, by a sizable amount, the worst roster in the conference. Barnes has done a Deion Sanders redo on the roster but, with the exception of the ex-Central Michigan setter who may only be the tenth best setter in this conference, but is skilled, and the Serbian, it is hard to see any other newcomer who is skilled enough to play in this league. And let’s be clear, if any of these newcomers pops out, someone will steal them in the portal next December. Iowa, with this staff, is in a death spiral. Maybe Iowa can compete against Northwestern (but NWs new Coach Tim Nolan brought his mighty Grand Canyon team into Iowa City last fall and beat Iowa) but I wouldn’t count on it. As for Rutgers, their roster is inferior to Rutgers. 2-18 at best, but I don’t believe they will win a match. They lost their final 29 conference sets last fall, so they need to focus on winning a few sets. Heck, maybe Minnesota will come in totally unprepared like they did last fall and allow Iowa to win a couple of sets. Barnes is in desperation mode looking for quick fixes, I don’t know if that is possible in this conference. I fear only a named coach who can actually attract B1G level recruits and portal players can offer any hope. But we’ll see how it goes. 0-20 I am absolutely shocked that you have chosen to comment in such pessimistic fashion to a post about any possible optimism within the Iowa program attempting to make strides, photos1! Completely out of character for you! Hey, noticed that you didn't ever reply to you being called out on your comments in the Iowa thread on 7/31/24...just as I called it out back then that you would not. Thanks for swooping in on this thread with similar sentiments and sarcastic "well-wishes" for a program filled with athletes and staff wanting to enjoy any much-needed success that they can. You doing so proved that your vitriol and cockroaches are really all we can count on these days! GO HAWKS!
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Post by photos1 on Aug 17, 2024 16:55:09 GMT -5
Any match Iowa wins in the B1G in 2024 will be a colossal upset. They have, by a sizable amount, the worst roster in the conference. Barnes has done a Deion Sanders redo on the roster but, with the exception of the ex-Central Michigan setter who may only be the tenth best setter in this conference, but is skilled, and the Serbian, it is hard to see any other newcomer who is skilled enough to play in this league. And let’s be clear, if any of these newcomers pops out, someone will steal them in the portal next December. Iowa, with this staff, is in a death spiral. Maybe Iowa can compete against Northwestern (but NWs new Coach Tim Nolan brought his mighty Grand Canyon team into Iowa City last fall and beat Iowa) but I wouldn’t count on it. As for Rutgers, their roster is inferior to Rutgers. 2-18 at best, but I don’t believe they will win a match. They lost their final 29 conference sets last fall, so they need to focus on winning a few sets. Heck, maybe Minnesota will come in totally unprepared like they did last fall and allow Iowa to win a couple of sets. Barnes is in desperation mode looking for quick fixes, I don’t know if that is possible in this conference. I fear only a named coach who can actually attract B1G level recruits and portal players can offer any hope. But we’ll see how it goes. 0-20 I am absolutely shocked that you have chosen to comment in such pessimistic fashion to a post about any possible optimism within the Iowa program attempting to make strides, photos!! Completely out of character for you! Hey, noticed that you didn't ever reply to you being called out on your comments in the Iowa thread on 7/31/24...just as I called it out back then that you would not. Thanks for swooping in on this thread with similar sentiments and sarcastic "well-wishes" for a program filled with athletes and staff wanting to enjoy any much-needed success that they can. Your vitriol and cockroaches are really all we can count on these days! GO HAWKS! 🥱 Barnes is in over his head and this conference is too big for him. He came from Tulane and somehow seemed to believe fielding a team of ex-Tulane and Tulane level recruits would suffice-but that equated to 0-20 in the B1G. And now he gets rid of most of those players and pulls a Deion to redo the team again, but does hang on to a couple of Tulane bodies. That will equate to 0-20 again. Sorry. And I just never looked at any response from 7-31, or I would have laughed and responded. As Brand sand says, “you get what you earn”… Iowa volleyball has earned 0-20. And that is what you have. Is that mean? Ok, maybe, but it is accurate… 😂
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Post by hawkfan on Aug 17, 2024 16:56:28 GMT -5
I am absolutely shocked that you have chosen to comment in such pessimistic fashion to a post about any possible optimism within the Iowa program attempting to make strides, photos!! Completely out of character for you! Hey, noticed that you didn't ever reply to you being called out on your comments in the Iowa thread on 7/31/24...just as I called it out back then that you would not. Thanks for swooping in on this thread with similar sentiments and sarcastic "well-wishes" for a program filled with athletes and staff wanting to enjoy any much-needed success that they can. Your vitriol and cockroaches are really all we can count on these days! GO HAWKS! 🥱 Barnes is in over his head and this conference is too big for him. He came from Tulane and somehow seemed to believe fielding a team of ex-Tulane and Tulane level recruits would suffice-but that equated to 0-20 in the B1G. And now he gets rid of most of those players and pulls a Deion to redo the team again, but does hang on to a couple of Tulane bodies. That will equate to 0-20 again. Sorry. And I just never looked at any response from 7-31, or I would have laughed and responded. As Brand sand says, “you get what you earn”… Iowa volleyball has earned 0-20. And that is what you have. Is that mean? Ok, maybe, but it is accurate… 😂 Thanks yet again!
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Post by jwvolley on Aug 17, 2024 17:04:48 GMT -5
What is the point of punching down? Weird
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Post by photos1 on Aug 17, 2024 18:23:20 GMT -5
What is the point of punching down? Weird That’s what I was thinking when the nasty vile comments piled in from these same people about Murray. The period of time when people were forced sit and take it is over. Again, are my opinions about Iowa mean? Maybe, but accurate and volleyball related. If you are going to claim to be the best volleyball conference in the country, you can’t have teams like Iowa… or coaches like they have at Iowa, Washington and Northwestern. No B1G team should be forced to waste their time playing Iowa…let alone playing them twice. Jmho 🤮
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2024 20:22:21 GMT -5
What is the point of punching down? Weird That’s what I was thinking when the nasty vile comments piled in from these same people about Murray. The period of time when people were forced sit and take it is over. Again, are my opinions about Iowa mean? Maybe, but accurate and volleyball related. If you are going to claim to be the best volleyball conference in the country, you can’t have teams like Iowa… or coaches like they have at Iowa, Washington and Northwestern. No B1G team should be forced to waste their time playing Iowa…let alone playing them twice. Jmho 🤮 Wow Photos you have some issues man. Like the comment, punching down. Weird. Just did a quick search and Barnes has been a head coach for 27 years. Right at 500 wins. Coached at Baylor for 11 years. Went to the sweet 16 and post season for 4 seasons. Several coaches of the years. Not completely over his head I would say. Either way, why so critical? Just like the negative attention?
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Post by knapplc on Aug 17, 2024 22:02:16 GMT -5
Friendly reminder on how to block a poster you don't want to engage with: (forgive me for using a very popular user for illustrative purposes only) Tap their user name: Click the gear icon and choose Block Member Remember to choose "Hide this member's posts" Tap "Block Member" Enjoy the silence.
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Post by wahinefan on Aug 17, 2024 22:04:32 GMT -5
I cannot wait for these Big Ten Teams to be in Action. Especially, when it comes to Conference play. The Big Ten has to be the Best Women's Volleyball Conference in D1 Volleyball, especially with the addition of USC, Oregon, and UCLA. There will be some awesome battles these coming season. Again, Cannot Wait. In the last 20 years Washington is 80-35 against USC, Oregon, and UCLA and has won three times as many Pac-12 titles in the last 20 years than USC, Oregon, and UCLA combined....you know, just in case you forgot which program has actually been the 2nd best in the Pac-12 after Stanford for the vast majority of this century. But that was with Keegan Cook as their Head Coach. Speaking of the University of Washington. Not expecting that much form the University of Washington, now that Keegan Cook is no longer there. Of the 4 teams that came over from the PAC12, thinking USC and Oregon, followed further down by either UCLA or Washington.
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Post by ay2013 on Aug 17, 2024 22:46:30 GMT -5
In the last 20 years Washington is 80-35 against USC, Oregon, and UCLA and has won three times as many Pac-12 titles in the last 20 years than USC, Oregon, and UCLA combined....you know, just in case you forgot which program has actually been the 2nd best in the Pac-12 after Stanford for the vast majority of this century. But that was with Keegan Cook as their Head Coach. Speaking of the University of Washington. Not expecting that much form the University of Washington, now that Keegan Cook is no longer there. Of the 4 teams that came over from the PAC12, thinking USC and Oregon, followed further down by either UCLA or Washington. Despite the fact that Keegan was not a coach at Washington (let alone head coach) for many of the last 20 years (whereas Gabriel has been there the entire time), this is the same Keegan Cook whose Minnesota team lost to Maryland and Rutgers? I’m not here to rag on Keegan Cook, but pointing out one season for Gabriel where she is working with almost an entirely new starting line up just seems stupid. Keller at USC had a 15 loss season in his first full year and he returned a boat load of experienced talent. Ulmer at Oregon in 2019 having seniors like Willow Johnson, Ronika Stone, Taylor Borup…. Nuneviller was on that roster, among other talented players went 9-20! These men can take teams full of experienced talent and produce mediocre (USC) / pathetic (Oregon) records and it’s what, a fluke?…but Gabriel produces a mediocre record after losing the starting setter, both OH’s and both middles in her first season and suddenly she’s in over her head and Washington is some has been program as if her accomplishment with the team for the last 20 years where Washington has been a CLEAR #2 in the Pac, is irrelevant. Like come on, it just sounds stupid. I can’t predict the future. UW’s prominence may very well fade into the history books (for a variety of reasons), but what I do know is that there seems to be double standards when it comes to Gabriel, and I’m here to call that sh*t out because it’s annoying AF.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2024 0:13:26 GMT -5
I can’t imagine the challenges with taking over a program on NCAA sanctions, vacating 3 seasons of wins and losing just about every impact player. Bringing in a bunch of grads and upperclassman to fill the void and then they are gone in year 2. I like the talent they have pulled in. Upsets will be a big deal for the Hawkeyes. It believe it was only 2 seasons of wins that needed to be vacated, four years before Barnes arrived (2017 and 2018), but yes, a tall task to take over when he did for sure. I, too, like the talent on this year's team and am encouraged by future commits thus far as well. Bring on some upsets this fall! And 2019. Sanctions ended in 2022. This obviously set the program back. The climb starts this season.
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Post by hawkfan on Aug 18, 2024 1:30:08 GMT -5
It believe it was only 2 seasons of wins that needed to be vacated, four years before Barnes arrived (2017 and 2018), but yes, a tall task to take over when he did for sure. I, too, like the talent on this year's team and am encouraged by future commits thus far as well. Bring on some upsets this fall! And 2019. Sanctions ended in 2022. This obviously set the program back. The climb starts this season. Matches played in 2019 wins are not showing as vacated on the official Iowa athletics website. Only matches played in 2017 and 2018 are. My understanding from then and from these articles below (one of which is our own official Iowa athletics site), is that only victories in matches during only those two seasons were vacated. This make sense because the student-athlete at the center of those concerns only played for Iowa for two seasons: the falls of 2017 and 2018. Translated: if she played in a match Iowa won, they had to vacate that victory. www.hawkcentral.com/story/sports/college/iowa/volleyball/2020/05/20/ncaa-ruling-vacates-volleyball-wins-after-former-coach-paid-player/5229451002/hawkeyesports.com/news/2020/05/20/iowa-accepts-volleyball-negotiated-resolution/ - Quote from this last article: "As part of the resolution, the Iowa volleyball program will serve a one-year probation period, beginning May 20, 2020 ( NOTE:which would mean this probation ended in May of 2021), while UI Athletics has been fined $5,000. Iowa volleyball must vacate all wins during the 2017-18 and 2018-19 seasons (33 wins) and faces recruiting penalties during the one-year probation period." But nevertheless, yes, this (in addition to what ensued involving Coach Brown) all absolutely set the program back and created a very tough situation for Barnes to step into. And I share the optimism about things improving going forward! I'm all for climbing!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2024 8:17:45 GMT -5
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Post by hawkfan on Aug 18, 2024 8:36:53 GMT -5
Those were the spring season matches scheduled for 2020, not any "regular season" matches (dates are all in March and April of 2020). The matches for fall of 2019 all appear as normal on the site. (the years are described very strangely and in confusing fashion on the site, if you ask me) hawkeyesports.com/sports/wvball/schedule/season/2018-19/These on what you sent say "canceled" instead of "vacated." Everyone's spring matches in 2020 were canceled then due to the onset of the pandemic. So, these are unrelated to the penalties. No matter...it was indeed a tough go there and onward we go now.
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