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Post by badgerbreath on Dec 26, 2023 13:22:16 GMT -5
Athletically, the only reason to run a conference tournament is to rectify any ambiguity produced by the unbalanced schedules. The logistics are tricky.
Politically, I think the problem is getting consensus on the format. You could probably get a majority to agree one having one, but how it would look is a different issue. With 18 teams, that just got even harder.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2023 13:37:10 GMT -5
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Post by tablealgebra on Dec 26, 2023 13:44:40 GMT -5
Exactly who selects this group for thus match? I don't know who, but at least it isn't the Red Hat lady this year. I'm just glad that they got the two future star B1G setters on the right team: Team Fire, set by Charlie Fire-bringer, against Team Ice, set by Icy Starck. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2023 14:25:26 GMT -5
I just came out to the tv with bowl on with Minny who is 5-7. How does a 5-7 team deserve a bowl. That’s just silly
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Post by B1Gminnesotafan on Dec 26, 2023 14:38:43 GMT -5
I just came out to the tv with bowl on with Minny who is 5-7. How does a 5-7 team deserve a bowl. That’s just silly We refer to them as the loser bowls around here, LOL. Still glad our team had the opportunity for some post season play. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2023 14:40:32 GMT -5
I just came out to the tv with bowl on with Minny who is 5-7. How does a 5-7 team deserve a bowl. That’s just silly We refer to them as the loser bowls around here, LOL. Still glad our team had the opportunity for some post season play. No, I get it’s cool to have your team in a bowl but you understand what I’m getting at right. I have never agreed with 500 teams qualifying for bowls. 5-7 is just funny. If this was psu I’d say nah I’m good. I’m gonna hang with family and friends over holidays. My guess is most the players probably don’t care much it’s just a way to generate some xtra money for school. That’s all. The other issue is unless you are in what is rapidly becoming known as the invitational then many players sit out anyway. Playoffs have strict concise rules, not a bunch of guidelines open to interpretation when making decision. Where depending on teams they can choose to put more emphasis on one thing then another. That’s not a playoff that’s a invitational. Any sport where you have to have a committee sit down and determine who gets in and who doesn’t isn’t a playoff. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Dec 26, 2023 14:40:48 GMT -5
I just came out to the tv with bowl on with Minny who is 5-7. How does a 5-7 team deserve a bowl. That’s just silly We refer to them as the loser bowls around here, LOL. Still glad our team had the opportunity for some post season play. Is a late December trip to Detroit to play Bowling Green a reward or a punishment? |
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Post by VBallLife on Dec 26, 2023 15:08:08 GMT -5
I don't know who, but at least it isn't the Red Hat lady this year. I'm just glad that they got the two future star B1G setters on the right team: Team Fire, set by Charlie Fire-bringer, against Team Ice, set by Icy Starck. Led by Munciana director and a former Gator as the coordinator. It’s 50/50 there are some questionable choices and the usual suspects. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2023 15:14:51 GMT -5
I just came out to the tv with bowl on with Minny who is 5-7. How does a 5-7 team deserve a bowl. That’s just silly We refer to them as the loser bowls around here, LOL. Still glad our team had the opportunity for some post season play. It's gonna get crowded in the middle of Big Ten conference. At least with two divisions teams like Nebraska, Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota had hope of maybe getting to Big Ten Championship. One division starting in 2024. At least we still have the rivalry games. |
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Post by trojansc on Dec 26, 2023 15:24:10 GMT -5
I just came out to the tv with bowl on with Minny who is 5-7. How does a 5-7 team deserve a bowl. That’s just silly Bowl games are all like NIT anyways. Who cares? |
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Post by GoGophs on Dec 26, 2023 16:18:45 GMT -5
I just came out to the tv with bowl on with Minny who is 5-7. How does a 5-7 team deserve a bowl. That’s just silly There weren’t enough 6-6 teams so they went with the next 5-7 team with the best academic standing… so they may not be the greatest at football but they’re good academically! 🤓 |
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Post by go4thekill on Dec 26, 2023 16:20:06 GMT -5
I was going to then thought it was probably the eggnog talking. No. Way. In. Hell. And I haven't had any eggnog!!  I would have to agree. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2023 16:22:01 GMT -5
I just came out to the tv with bowl on with Minny who is 5-7. How does a 5-7 team deserve a bowl. That’s just silly There weren’t enough 6-6 teams so they went with the next 5-7 team with the best academic standing… so they may not be the greatest at football but they’re good academically! 🤓 Why have that many bowls to begin with. It’s unnecessary. It’s like giving everyone a participation trophy just for playing |
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Post by bluepenquin on Dec 27, 2023 6:59:32 GMT -5
I just came out to the tv with bowl on with Minny who is 5-7. How does a 5-7 team deserve a bowl. That’s just silly Bowl games are all like NIT anyways. Who cares? At least with the NIT - teams are trying to win and don't have star players opting out of the game. |
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Post by bluepenquin on Dec 27, 2023 7:17:54 GMT -5
Anyone that wins the B1G conference tournament is absolutely worthy of making the NCAA tournament. This isn't just getting lucky in one match - this is winning multiple matches against some of the best teams in the country.
If a conference tournament cheapens the regular season - then one would have to conclude that the NCAA tournament cheapens the regular season. As good as Texas was/is - they weren't objectively the best team over the whole season, but they are the National Champions.
I am not talking about any other conference playing a conference tournament - I am talking about the Big Ten. Why? They are the best conference and the competition played in a conference tournament would be Epic. The fan interest would potentially exceed matches in the NCAA tournament - and it would bring increased money and notoriety to the sport.
We can talk about a full round robin (plus 3 extra matches) for the regular season - but that isn't the same as everyone having the same schedule. Who you play in those extra 3 matches will matter - and even more important - where you play those key matches will be critical to winning the regular season.
There are many options for a conference tournament that would work - but here is one that I have never heard mentioned.
Play a 16 (or 17 game season). Top 16 teams qualify for the tournament (teams 17 and 18 can play each other a couple times). Make it a 2 weekend tournament. Top 4 teams (seeds) host the 1st and 2nd rounds in 4 team pods. Then the Final 4 plays the final weekend for the conference tournament championship a a neutral site. Losing teams the first weekend play each other to get them to 18 (or 19) total conference games.
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