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Post by volleyguy on Apr 22, 2024 12:46:28 GMT -5
Carlini was hyped as being Olympic setter material much more than Poulter ever was. There were always questions about Poulter's technique, location and movement at that stage of her career. I don't think that is really that debatable. I think to say otherwise is recency bias. Carlini definitely had more hype, If you're talking about obvious choice in terms of the general fans opinion, then ya forsure carlini. I also think carlini and Hancock both had better freshman - junior years then poulter. I'm just considering the level each was at when leaving college, and to me poulter looked every bit as good as they did if not better. So recency bias in the sense that im ignoring carlini was way better as an 18 year old, yes. I guess I thought u meant more in terms of skill / ceiling than public opinion Lexi Rodriguez would be the obvious choice at libero if we went off of public hype throughout her college career, doesnt mean she's the actual obvious choice tho I wasn't approaching it (either the hype or the designation of "obvious") from a fan perspective or a setter popularity contest standpoint.
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Post by yupyupyup on Apr 22, 2024 12:51:25 GMT -5
Who was the obvious setter for the 2016 Olympic team, if it wasn’t Glass? If Poulter wasn’t the obvious setter coming out of college into the national team, she would be #2, behind Carlini. Poulter was npoy material if Illinois made it further. Poulter also performed better than Carlini leading up to Tokyo so it was clear she should be starting setter. So I think Karch made the obvious starting setter selections for past 2 Olympic Games
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Post by volleyguy on Apr 22, 2024 12:53:04 GMT -5
Who was the obvious setter for the 2016 Olympic team, if it wasn’t Glass? If Poulter wasn’t the obvious setter coming out of college into the national team, she would be #2, behind Carlini. Poulter was npoy material if Illinois made it further. Poulter also performed better than Carlini leading up to Tokyo so it was clear she should be starting setter. So I think Karch made the obvious starting setter selections for past 2 Olympic Games We weren't talking about setters that were already in the Olympic roster conversation.
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Post by ddbb on Apr 22, 2024 13:03:42 GMT -5
i didn't peg poulter as an obvious nt starting setter coming out of college, either. this isn’t to say that there were other setters better than poulter during her time in the ncaa, but more so the idea of breaking through lloyd-carlini-hancock. i thought those three would have a firm hold on the position for quite some time.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2024 13:14:06 GMT -5
lots of talent in these meme wow
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Post by volleyfan8288 on Apr 22, 2024 13:16:40 GMT -5
Carlini was hyped as being Olympic setter material much more than Poulter ever was. There were always questions about Poulter's technique, location and movement at that stage of her career. I don't think that is really that debatable. I think to say otherwise is recency bias. Carlini definitely had more hype, If you're talking about obvious choice in terms of the general fans opinion, then ya forsure carlini. I also think carlini and Hancock both had better freshman - junior years then poulter. I'm just considering the level each was at when leaving college, and to me poulter looked every bit as good as they did if not better. So recency bias in the sense that im ignoring carlini was way better as an 18 year old, yes. I guess I thought u meant more in terms of skill / ceiling than public opinion Lexi Rodriguez would be the obvious choice at libero if we went off of public hype throughout her college career, doesnt mean she's the actual obvious choice tho I think this Lexi comparison is spot on. Definitely the most obvious choice based on “public hype” during college career— but the actual choice? Not to derail the setter debate, but who do you think the next group of nt liberos will be?
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Post by Reach on Apr 22, 2024 13:36:14 GMT -5
Someone who could be world class…. We need the next coming of Stacey Sykora
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Post by Fe Gaslay on Apr 22, 2024 14:33:52 GMT -5
Carlini definitely had more hype, If you're talking about obvious choice in terms of the general fans opinion, then ya forsure carlini. I also think carlini and Hancock both had better freshman - junior years then poulter. I'm just considering the level each was at when leaving college, and to me poulter looked every bit as good as they did if not better. So recency bias in the sense that im ignoring carlini was way better as an 18 year old, yes. I guess I thought u meant more in terms of skill / ceiling than public opinion Lexi Rodriguez would be the obvious choice at libero if we went off of public hype throughout her college career, doesnt mean she's the actual obvious choice tho I think this Lexi comparison is spot on. Definitely the most obvious choice based on “public hype” during college career— but the actual choice? Not to derail the setter debate, but who do you think the next group of nt liberos will be? Give me Scott, Ogilvie, Rodriguez, lol who else is there that’s like NT potential level
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Post by sleepy on Apr 22, 2024 15:06:14 GMT -5
I think this Lexi comparison is spot on. Definitely the most obvious choice based on “public hype” during college career— but the actual choice? Not to derail the setter debate, but who do you think the next group of nt liberos will be? Give me Scott, Ogilvie, Rodriguez, lol who else is there that’s like NT potential level briseno?
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Post by gophervballfan on Apr 22, 2024 15:34:06 GMT -5
Carlini definitely had more hype, If you're talking about obvious choice in terms of the general fans opinion, then ya forsure carlini. I also think carlini and Hancock both had better freshman - junior years then poulter. I'm just considering the level each was at when leaving college, and to me poulter looked every bit as good as they did if not better. So recency bias in the sense that im ignoring carlini was way better as an 18 year old, yes. I guess I thought u meant more in terms of skill / ceiling than public opinion Lexi Rodriguez would be the obvious choice at libero if we went off of public hype throughout her college career, doesnt mean she's the actual obvious choice tho I think this Lexi comparison is spot on. Definitely the most obvious choice based on “public hype” during college career— but the actual choice? Not to derail the setter debate, but who do you think the next group of nt liberos will be? USAVB seems to really like Lauren Briseno from Baylor, and I don't know too much on her but it seems they really like her. Lexi is an obvious choice. Olgilve from Stanford, Halter from Texas, Elena Scott from Louisville, and a few others would probably be in the mix for national team rosters in a few years
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Post by xlumie on Apr 22, 2024 15:49:23 GMT -5
I think this Lexi comparison is spot on. Definitely the most obvious choice based on “public hype” during college career— but the actual choice? Not to derail the setter debate, but who do you think the next group of nt liberos will be? Give me Scott, Ogilvie, Rodriguez, lol who else is there that’s like NT potential level Don't let the Halter stans see this.
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Post by sfvbsfvb on Apr 22, 2024 16:16:08 GMT -5
I think this Lexi comparison is spot on. Definitely the most obvious choice based on “public hype” during college career— but the actual choice? Not to derail the setter debate, but who do you think the next group of nt liberos will be? USAVB seems to really like Lauren Briseno from Baylor, and I don't know too much on her but it seems they really like her. Lexi is an obvious choice. Olgilve from Stanford, Halter from Texas, Elena Scott from Louisville, and a few others would probably be in the mix for national team rosters in a few years as a stanford fan who wanted them to make it to at least final four, am I the only one that feels like olgilve's kinda mid? It feels like she gets consistently beat cross court and also doesn't pass dimes my irrelevant eye test opinion is that lexi and scott look more solid
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Post by Fe Gaslay on Apr 22, 2024 16:34:09 GMT -5
Give me Scott, Ogilvie, Rodriguez, lol who else is there that’s like NT potential level Don't let the Halter stans see this. Lmfao I forgot about her, I would add her to the list, especially if she keeps up her level of play from the FF
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Post by avid 2.0 on Apr 22, 2024 16:44:20 GMT -5
I wonder if Serena will even be in the VNL camp
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Post by Reach on Apr 22, 2024 16:46:57 GMT -5
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