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Post by superlega on May 16, 2024 8:57:48 GMT -5
Bruh what are you even saying, she might even be scarier out of system. Any Texas player knows how to hit oos. It’s odd for me to see someone question Skinner’s arm strength. I know international play has a different standard than NCAA, lbut Skinner regularly blisters the ball in college matches. Is it really her arm strength being questioned or is she simply not hitting the ball cleanly enough with enough consistency? It’s judt an odd comment to me, albeit as someone who literally watches zero international play and so comes from a place of abject ignorance. because Madi doesn’t really have a “strong arm” imo. She can absolutely bounce balls bc she has more of a whip. I think she would struggle some on the right OOS because she won’t be able to get on top and hit the ball with a ton of heat. When she smashes the ball it’s because she was able to get on top of it and whip through it. That being said in system she’s terrifying but I’m not sure how heavy an arm she has OOS on the right yet
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2024 8:59:23 GMT -5
Bruh what are you even saying, she might even be scarier out of system. Any Texas player knows how to hit oos. because Madi doesn’t really have a “strong arm” imo. She can absolutely bounce balls bc she has more of a whip. I think she would struggle some on the right OOS because she won’t be able to get on top and hit the ball with a ton of heat. When she smashes the ball it’s because she was able to get on top of it and whip through it. That being said in system she’s terrifying but I’m not sure how heavy an arm she has OOS on the right yet lmao. Hitting on the right OOS is a lot different than the left. And “any” Texas player ? Molly Phillips in shambles
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Post by stanfordvb on May 16, 2024 9:12:46 GMT -5
Bruh what are you even saying, she might even be scarier out of system. Any Texas player knows how to hit oos. because Madi doesn’t really have a “strong arm” imo. She can absolutely bounce balls bc she has more of a whip. I think she would struggle some on the right OOS because she won’t be able to get on top and hit the ball with a ton of heat. When she smashes the ball it’s because she was able to get on top of it and whip through it. That being said in system she’s terrifying but I’m not sure how heavy an arm she has OOS on the right yet lol youre actually delusional, skinner is not "even scarier out of system"... scarier for her own team sure, but not the opponents lol. Logan and fields were both better oos attackers at texas up to this point
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Post by jiggs on May 16, 2024 9:13:34 GMT -5
Logan and skinner are listed at the same height. Anyways, Kipp to me lacks more than skinner right now. Skinner contacts the ball higher than Kipp and they both currently lack great arm strength. I still think Kipp has more potential but she needs more development and hopefully vakif will help her with that It’s odd for me to see someone question Skinner’s arm strength. I know international play has a different standard than NCAA, lbut Skinner regularly blisters the ball in college matches. Is it really her arm strength being questioned or is she simply not hitting the ball cleanly enough with enough consistency? It’s judt an odd comment to me, albeit as someone who literally watches zero international play and so comes from a place of abject ignorance. I always like to compare players to the best club players. At the highest level all the great oppos have rocket arms especially the great OOS hitters. Think of the top 7ish opposites, all of them take the ball high and hit very hard, besides like van ryke who doesn’t take the ball super high but still has crazy power. If you watched the Thailand game, you would have seen skinner take a fair amount of high quality swings that if her arm was better would have been points. When you don’t have that elite arm you get dug alot especially if you have places you like to hit, which teams can scout pretty easily once you have enough tape. Think of it as a bunch of plummer type arms if you don’t watch international
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Post by superlega on May 16, 2024 9:14:02 GMT -5
Also just a reminder Madi 2024 is happening. Didn't Karsta join the team in 2015 a season before Rio? This is Madi's first summer in the gym, correct? Karsta debuted that season and ended up winning MVP at the World Grand Prix. Agreed that it's unlikely younger Skinner will make the Olympic roster.
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Post by hopefuldawg on May 16, 2024 9:26:08 GMT -5
Bruh what are you even saying, she might even be scarier out of system. Any Texas player knows how to hit oos. lol youre actually delusional, skinner is not "even scarier out of system"... scarier for her own team sure, but not the opponents lol. Logan and fields were both better oos attackers at texas up to this point Purely based on poor memory and maybe it's because Madi didn't have as good of a supporting cast so she carried a heavier load, but 2023 M Skinner > 2022 Eggleston. However, 2024 Eggleston >> 2024 M Skinner. And I don't know what it is, but since spring 2021, Fields always seems to struggle more than Eggleston or M Skinner against high level opponents.
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Post by slxpress on May 16, 2024 10:26:47 GMT -5
It’s odd for me to see someone question Skinner’s arm strength. I know international play has a different standard than NCAA, lbut Skinner regularly blisters the ball in college matches. Is it really her arm strength being questioned or is she simply not hitting the ball cleanly enough with enough consistency? It’s judt an odd comment to me, albeit as someone who literally watches zero international play and so comes from a place of abject ignorance. because Madi doesn’t really have a “strong arm” imo. She can absolutely bounce balls bc she has more of a whip. I think she would struggle some on the right OOS because she won’t be able to get on top and hit the ball with a ton of heat. When she smashes the ball it’s because she was able to get on top of it and whip through it. That being said in system she’s terrifying but I’m not sure how heavy an arm she has OOS on the right yet That makes complete sense. I can even compare her to Eggleston who absolutely has a heavy arm. You nailed it. It’s more of a whip than a sledgehammer.
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Post by uofaGRAD on May 16, 2024 10:33:14 GMT -5
Madi was literally better OOS than in system from the front row this season at Texas lol. I know right side is different but cmon now. every time Akana or Halter or Barnes threw up a high ball to Madi it was a kill. when she “struggled” was off Swindle front row lol
backrow we all know she’s insane but that’s 90% in system
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Post by jiggs on May 16, 2024 10:38:24 GMT -5
Madi was literally better OOS than in system from the front row this season at Texas lol. I know right side is different but cmon now. every time Akana or Halter or Barnes threw up a high ball to Madi it was a kill. when she “struggled” was off Swindle front row lol backrow we all know she’s insane but that’s 90% in system why do you think being good in college volleyball is a good predictor for professional success? Just curious?
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Post by ddbb on May 16, 2024 10:39:10 GMT -5
Madi was literally better OOS than in system from the front row this season at Texas lol. I know right side is different but cmon now. every time Akana or Halter or Barnes threw up a high ball to Madi it was a kill. when she “struggled” was off Swindle front row lol backrow we all know she’s insane but that’s 90% in system i also thought she was great oos at texas this year. that wrist/thumb flick is so elite while hitting the ball at a high contact point. however, i also think she will strugle with oos balls on the right side.
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Post by ddbb on May 16, 2024 10:41:49 GMT -5
Madi was literally better OOS than in system from the front row this season at Texas lol. I know right side is different but cmon now. every time Akana or Halter or Barnes threw up a high ball to Madi it was a kill. when she “struggled” was off Swindle front row lol backrow we all know she’s insane but that’s 90% in system why do you think being good in college volleyball is a good predictor for professional success? Just curious? where did you infer that from their post? and why wouldn’t it be a good predictor? isn’t it only logical to think that there is a good chance a good collegiate volleyball career will translate to a good professional success?
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2024 10:43:37 GMT -5
Madi was literally better OOS than in system from the front row this season at Texas lol. I know right side is different but cmon now. every time Akana or Halter or Barnes threw up a high ball to Madi it was a kill. when she “struggled” was off Swindle front row lol backrow we all know she’s insane but that’s 90% in system hitting OOS on both pins is like a completely different thing. Especially OOS D balls.
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Post by uofaGRAD on May 16, 2024 10:56:23 GMT -5
Madi was literally better OOS than in system from the front row this season at Texas lol. I know right side is different but cmon now. every time Akana or Halter or Barnes threw up a high ball to Madi it was a kill. when she “struggled” was off Swindle front row lol backrow we all know she’s insane but that’s 90% in system why do you think being good in college volleyball is a good predictor for professional success? Just curious? how did you get that from me saying she was better OOS than in system from the front row this year lol also… were Kelsey, Plummer, JWO, Poulter, Carlini, Hancock, Chiaka, Haleigh, Rettke, etc not good in college…?
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Post by uofaGRAD on May 16, 2024 11:01:22 GMT -5
Madi was literally better OOS than in system from the front row this season at Texas lol. I know right side is different but cmon now. every time Akana or Halter or Barnes threw up a high ball to Madi it was a kill. when she “struggled” was off Swindle front row lol backrow we all know she’s insane but that’s 90% in system hitting OOS on both pins is like a completely different thing. Especially OOS D balls. okay so why don’t we watch her this week to see how she does instead of writing her off after she *checks notes* hits over .350 against a good Thailand team? haven’t we all seen how much ridiculously better Logan got from year 1 to year 2 pro and transitioning to opposite? Madi had the best OOS D ball swing I’ve seen from a USA opposite this entire quad last match
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Post by twkpwrbtmlib on May 16, 2024 11:03:30 GMT -5
plot twist: madi is the alternative for paris just so her and her sister can travel together 👯♀️
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