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Post by soljah808 on Apr 17, 2024 9:48:30 GMT -5
lol mistakenly thought the BWCT was intended to be neutral (not home) BWCT so it's F the rest of the Big West fans! don't do anything that is remotely reasonable for the ENTIRE conference ok then!! pretty loud and clear, lol I don't mind staying up, can't imagine though that anybody other die-hard fans would though. It's not F the other BWC fans...it's get use to it! Hawaii has hosted the tournament I believe 4 TIMES SINCE 2018 and the time slots have NEVER changed. Lol And here's a newsflash and you might need to prepare in advance: HAWAII WILL HOST THE BWCT NEXT YEAR AND THE TIME SLOTS STILL WONT CHANGE! LOL Now so only now you complaining? Lol |
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Post by xlumie on Apr 17, 2024 10:28:42 GMT -5
lol mistakenly thought the BWCT was intended to be neutral (not home) BWCT so it's F the rest of the Big West fans! don't do anything that is remotely reasonable for the ENTIRE conference ok then!! pretty loud and clear, lol I don't mind staying up, can't imagine though that anybody other die-hard fans would though. Get some fans first then complain. |
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Apr 17, 2024 10:38:45 GMT -5
1) I'm not the only one complaining. That I may be one person pointing it out on a message board commenting on it, does not mean it's not something others are not complaining about (others are), and does not mean it's not a huge inconvience for majority of fans of Big West teams, FIVE of which are in Californnia. It doesn't bother me to stay up, actually works out great for me, but then I'm thinking of others other than me.
2) Again, it's a neutral touranment, regardless of what a certain swarm of Hawaii fans can't seem to grasp.
3) even worse it starts at 1 am EST. It's called EXPOSURE for the sport. some people who fall all over themselves saying stuff about growing the game, can't even grasph the idea of making the SHOWCASE game of the season for the Big West should not get maximum exposure. just lfao
it's like if I (a Long Beach fan) said the National Championship should be held at 7 or 8 pm PST becuase it's 'best' for Beach fans, then that's acceptable, even though that would mean east coast fans have a 10 or 11 pm start. sheesh, what some people cannot grasph
4) My comments are not unreasonable, for any normal thinking person, and was to invite a reasonable discussion. Instead, lol, well a few crap responses so far that become some personal drivel
5) so go ahead and acutally discuss reasonableness. not ' F anybody but Hawaii' type responses
6) Frankly, it should probably be held about 3 or 4 pm Hawaii time for maximum exposure, it's on a Saturday. would think the goal would be to get this in prime time viewership.
7) it's up to the Big West, not Hawaii. I am surprised they went with that time for the final. It really doesn't make a lot of sense, which can be disucssed reasonably. If the BIg West wants to make the BWCT a permanent home court advantage and limit overall conference exposure - that'll be their choice. Just seesms odd. and just like in 2021 with SD vs. SB, if you get a Beach-Irvine final, the time slot is simply idiotic in terms of exposure and interest. how anyone would think that's some sort of unreasonable type of statement is beyond me.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Apr 17, 2024 10:45:21 GMT -5
lol mistakenly thought the BWCT was intended to be neutral (not home) BWCT so it's F the rest of the Big West fans! don't do anything that is remotely reasonable for the ENTIRE conference ok then!! pretty loud and clear, lol I don't mind staying up, can't imagine though that anybody other die-hard fans would though. Get some fans first then complain. stated response = F non Hawaii fans lol |
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Post by xlumie on Apr 17, 2024 10:50:40 GMT -5
Get some fans first then complain. stated response = F non Hawaii fans lol I mean the California schools should find some sponsors... for the tournament then. But that would require them to get a fanbase. |
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Post by mmvb805 on Apr 17, 2024 10:55:48 GMT -5
Get some fans first then complain. stated response = F non Hawaii fans lol I don’t understand why the Hawaii fans are taking it so personal. It’s not an attack on them… it’s a valid criticism, and I would have to agree with the original poster. |
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Apr 17, 2024 11:20:37 GMT -5
stated response = F non Hawaii fans lol I mean the California schools should find some sponsors... for the tournament then. But that would require them to get a fanbase. response = F non Hawaii fans |
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Post by soljah808 on Apr 17, 2024 12:22:58 GMT -5
stated response = F non Hawaii fans lol I don’t understand why the Hawaii fans are taking it so personal. It’s not an attack on them… it’s a valid criticism, and I would have to agree with the original poster. Who is taking it personal? Lol I'm simply telling you what is common knowledge for all the years Hawaii has hosted the BWCT. And it won't change. Lol I'm not taking it personally one bit cause I'm still gonna watch whether it started at 10pm Pacific time or 4am Pacific time. You guys the one getting butthurt over the time.hahahaha You agree with the poster and I'm telling you what's gonna happen. The time slot won't change is will continue to stay the same? So now what? 🤷♂️ You seem like a newbie here....learn to grow a spine. You're welcome. |
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Post by ManapuaSurprise on Apr 17, 2024 12:25:24 GMT -5
Theo Edwards has said that the Big West MVB Tournament only made money when it was held it Hawaii, and lost money when it was held somewhere else. Obviously, attendance is a factor to that.
I'm guessing the Big West wants to create a little nest egg so they don't keep going in red, so they picked Hawaii to host in 2024 & 2025. Yes the timeslot will be late for mainland viewers, but the trade-off is more people can attend the games in person which means the more money comes in.
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Post by soljah808 on Apr 17, 2024 12:35:55 GMT -5
1) I'm not the only one complaining. That I may be one person pointing it out on a message board commenting on it, does not mean it's not something others are not complaining about (others are), and does not mean it's not a huge inconvience for majority of fans of Big West teams, FIVE of which are in Californnia. It doesn't bother me to stay up, actually works out great for me, but then I'm thinking of others other than me. 2) Again, it's a neutral touranment, regardless of what a certain swarm of Hawaii fans can't seem to grasp. 3) even worse it starts at 1 am EST. It's called EXPOSURE for the sport. some people who fall all over themselves saying stuff about growing the game, can't even grasph the idea of making the SHOWCASE game of the season for the Big West should not get maximum exposure. just lfao it's like if I (a Long Beach fan) said the National Championship should be held at 7 or 8 pm PST becuase it's 'best' for Beach fans, then that's acceptable, even though that would mean east coast fans have a 10 or 11 pm start. sheesh, what some people cannot grasph 4) My comments are not unreasonable, for any normal thinking person, and was to invite a reasonable discussion. Instead, lol, well a few crap responses so far that become some personal drivel 5) so go ahead and acutally discuss reasonableness. not ' F anybody but Hawaii' type responses 6) Frankly, it should probably be held about 3 or 4 pm Hawaii time for maximum exposure, it's on a Saturday. would think the goal would be to get this in prime time viewership. 7) it's up to the Big West, not Hawaii. I am surprised they went with that time for the final. It really doesn't make a lot of sense, which can be disucssed reasonably. If the BIg West wants to make the BWCT a permanent home court advantage and limit overall conference exposure - that'll be their choice. Just seesms odd. and just like in 2021 with SD vs. SB, if you get a Beach-Irvine final, the time slot is simply idiotic in terms of exposure and interest. how anyone would think that's some sort of unreasonable type of statement is beyond me. 1.) Yeah you are definitely the only one complaining about it. Lol at least own it dude. 2.) It's a neutral environment but Hawaii is the host and the host school determines the time frames that are agreed with the conference before hand. 3.)Big West always had exposure for the sport. Big West is banking on the extra profit this tournament brings for them and all the extras Hawaiis sponsors provides for each program during their stay here. Apparently your gripe needs to be directed towards the Big West who all agreed to the arrangements well before hand and not Hawaii the host school. 4.) I never said your comment wasn't unreasonable at all. I'm simply stating a fact that the time slots have always been that way and it won't change. You may nit like the answer to that but maybe your concerns should be directed to the Commissioner of the conference instead? 5.) You believe it's an "F non-Hawaii fans" its more.....the tournament is catered to the fans at the host site to fill those seats and bring it tye hundreds of thousands of dollars and sponsorship money that don't come from 90% of the other programs. So that issue you have goes back to the conference and not Hawaii. 6.)The times sound more to accommodate non-Hawaii fans and not Hawaii fans? So are you flipping the script and saying "F Hawaii fans!?!" See how I flipped that argument around on you? Lol 7.) No one thinks it's unreasonable. You just mad that your suggestion isn't going to happen because this is what it's been all 4 years we've hosted and will be a 5th time next year as well. So I guess you can get mad early for next year too cause the time slots will.stay the same for next year's BWCT. Good luck. |
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Post by soljah808 on Apr 17, 2024 12:41:03 GMT -5
Theo Edwards has said that the Big West MVB Tournament only made money when it was held it Hawaii, and lost money when it was held somewhere else. Obviously, attendance is a factor to that. I'm guessing the Big West wants to create a little nest egg so they don't keep going in red, so they picked Hawaii to host in 2024 & 2025. Yes the timeslot will be late for mainland viewers, but the trade-off is more people can attend the games in person which means the more money comes in. Of course they did. LBSU if I remember correctly was supposed to host this year but they were overtaken by Hawaii to host the next two years. Maybe LBSU needs to do better in order to have kept it's hosting duties or provide a better package for the BWCT to have agreed to have kept it there. Lol |
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Apr 17, 2024 12:49:39 GMT -5
I don’t understand why the Hawaii fans are taking it so personal. It’s not an attack on them… it’s a valid criticism, and I would have to agree with the original poster. Who is taking it personal? Lol I'm simply telling you what is common knowledge for all the years Hawaii has hosted the BWCT. And it won't change. Lol I'm not taking it personally one bit cause I'm still gonna watch whether it started at 10pm Pacific time or 4am Pacific time. You guys the one getting butthurt over the time.hahahaha You agree with the poster and I'm telling you what's gonna happen. The time slot won't change is will continue to stay the same? So now what? 🤷♂️ You seem like a newbie here....learn to grow a spine. You're welcome. just calling it like it is. no butt-hurt. another Hawaii 'F non-Hawaii fans" you can't even make a cogent argument about the time slot other than 'F non-Hawaii fans' cause the prism looking thru is a pin hole |
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Apr 17, 2024 12:51:33 GMT -5
Theo Edwards has said that the Big West MVB Tournament only made money when it was held it Hawaii, and lost money when it was held somewhere else. Obviously, attendance is a factor to that. I'm guessing the Big West wants to create a little nest egg so they don't keep going in red, so they picked Hawaii to host in 2024 & 2025. Yes the timeslot will be late for mainland viewers, but the trade-off is more people can attend the games in person which means the more money comes in. so what. Theo Edwards is not teh Big West conference, as good a guy as he is there should NOT be a permanent HCA for selection bids, if there is the BWCT should be cancelled and just give the auto bid to the reg season champ, or have the regular season champ hold a p 2 or 4 team pllay-off at the champ (would likely make money if Irvien or Beach hosted a playoff and even the other schools would see huge increases for such if they actually WON a title and hosted) but that's digressing. another poster apparently diverting from the discussion of reasonable final start times. lol |
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Apr 17, 2024 12:52:43 GMT -5
1) I'm not the only one complaining. That I may be one person pointing it out on a message board commenting on it, does not mean it's not something others are not complaining about (others are), and does not mean it's not a huge inconvience for majority of fans of Big West teams, FIVE of which are in Californnia. It doesn't bother me to stay up, actually works out great for me, but then I'm thinking of others other than me. 2) Again, it's a neutral touranment, regardless of what a certain swarm of Hawaii fans can't seem to grasp. 3) even worse it starts at 1 am EST. It's called EXPOSURE for the sport. some people who fall all over themselves saying stuff about growing the game, can't even grasph the idea of making the SHOWCASE game of the season for the Big West should not get maximum exposure. just lfao it's like if I (a Long Beach fan) said the National Championship should be held at 7 or 8 pm PST becuase it's 'best' for Beach fans, then that's acceptable, even though that would mean east coast fans have a 10 or 11 pm start. sheesh, what some people cannot grasph 4) My comments are not unreasonable, for any normal thinking person, and was to invite a reasonable discussion. Instead, lol, well a few crap responses so far that become some personal drivel 5) so go ahead and acutally discuss reasonableness. not ' F anybody but Hawaii' type responses 6) Frankly, it should probably be held about 3 or 4 pm Hawaii time for maximum exposure, it's on a Saturday. would think the goal would be to get this in prime time viewership. 7) it's up to the Big West, not Hawaii. I am surprised they went with that time for the final. It really doesn't make a lot of sense, which can be disucssed reasonably. If the BIg West wants to make the BWCT a permanent home court advantage and limit overall conference exposure - that'll be their choice. Just seesms odd. and just like in 2021 with SD vs. SB, if you get a Beach-Irvine final, the time slot is simply idiotic in terms of exposure and interest. how anyone would think that's some sort of unreasonable type of statement is beyond me. 1.) Yeah you are definitely the only one complaining about it. Lol at least own it dude. 2.) It's a neutral environment but Hawaii is the host and the host school determines the time frames that are agreed with the conference before hand. 3.)Big West always had exposure for the sport. Big West is banking on the extra profit this tournament brings for them and all the extras Hawaiis sponsors provides for each program during their stay here. Apparently your gripe needs to be directed towards the Big West who all agreed to the arrangements well before hand and not Hawaii the host school. 4.) I never said your comment wasn't unreasonable at all. I'm simply stating a fact that the time slots have always been that way and it won't change. You may nit like the answer to that but maybe your concerns should be directed to the Commissioner of the conference instead? 5.) You believe it's an "F non-Hawaii fans" its more.....the tournament is catered to the fans at the host site to fill those seats and bring it tye hundreds of thousands of dollars and sponsorship money that don't come from 90% of the other programs. So that issue you have goes back to the conference and not Hawaii. 6.)The times sound more to accommodate non-Hawaii fans and not Hawaii fans? So are you flipping the script and saying "F Hawaii fans!?!" See how I flipped that argument around on you? Lol 7.) No one thinks it's unreasonable. You just mad that your suggestion isn't going to happen because this is what it's been all 4 years we've hosted and will be a 5th time next year as well. So I guess you can get mad early for next year too cause the time slots will.stay the same for next year's BWCT. Good luck. response = non-responsive opinion with a personal attack (as usual) |
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Apr 17, 2024 12:54:57 GMT -5
Theo Edwards has said that the Big West MVB Tournament only made money when it was held it Hawaii, and lost money when it was held somewhere else. Obviously, attendance is a factor to that. I'm guessing the Big West wants to create a little nest egg so they don't keep going in red, so they picked Hawaii to host in 2024 & 2025. Yes the timeslot will be late for mainland viewers, but the trade-off is more people can attend the games in person which means the more money comes in. Of course they did. LBSU if I remember correctly was supposed to host this year but they were overtaken by Hawaii to host the next two years. Maybe LBSU needs to do better in order to have kept it's hosting duties or provide a better package for the BWCT to have agreed to have kept it there. Lol lmfa - still hasn't addressed why a 1 or 2 hour shift to increase exposure is unreasonable. i.e. F the non Hawaii fans, lol if the goal of the tourney is not lose money, the tourney should be canceled vs having a permanent HCA. it's pretty simple |
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