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Post by genisvel on Feb 5, 2024 15:17:10 GMT -5
We watched the Omaha Atlanta match beginning with News Channel Nebraska through the NCN app with Amazon Firestick on the TV. The resolution was not good. Was hard to even make out player numbers. So went to YouTube app on Amazon Firestick on the same TV. Found the Stadium broadcast there. It was much higher resolution. Downside was announcer. Of course John Baylor is a Nebraska man so his angle was local for the Supernovas, but he knew what was going on most of the time! That wasn't Stadium. That was also NCN. Complete with local ads.
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Post by nebraskavblover on Feb 5, 2024 15:21:45 GMT -5
We watched the Omaha Atlanta match beginning with News Channel Nebraska through the NCN app with Amazon Firestick on the TV. The resolution was not good. Was hard to even make out player numbers. So went to YouTube app on Amazon Firestick on the same TV. Found the Stadium broadcast there. It was much higher resolution. Downside was announcer. Of course John Baylor is a Nebraska man so his angle was local for the Supernovas, but he knew what was going on most of the time! That wasn't Stadium. That was also NCN. Complete with local ads. So same broadcast, different set of announcers?
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Post by genisvel on Feb 5, 2024 15:22:27 GMT -5
That wasn't Stadium. That was also NCN. Complete with local ads. So same broadcast, different set of announcers? Announcers were the same.
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Post by nebraskavblover on Feb 5, 2024 16:06:44 GMT -5
So same broadcast, different set of announcers? Announcers were the same There were different sets of announcers. I just researched it. Jake Herman and Emily Ehman did the other broadcast. That version is available on YouTube. NCN did not post their version of the full broadcast, but they did post a highlights video. That video quality is poor compared to the Pro Volleyball Federation just as I remember it being. Importantly, I do not know if the actual broadcasts were the same feed. Not trying to make a big deal of this. My point was simply, watch something other than NCN to get a decent viewing. And I wanted to be sure I wasn’t losing it. This is from the Supernovas website in a news article still there: John Baylor, Olympian Nancy Metcalf to Spearhead Broadcast of Omaha Supernovas and Atlanta Vibe OMAHA, Neb. – The Omaha Supernovas, Nebraska’s first major league professional volleyball team in the Pro Volleyball Federation, are honored to announce that News Channel Nebraska will provide statewide coverage of the Omaha Supernovas’ historic first match against the Atlanta Vibe on Wednesday, January 24 at the CHI Health Center at 7:00 p.m. CST. “The popularity of women’s volleyball is unmatched in Nebraska, and it’s only fitting that this state is where the first Pro Volleyball Federation match is played,” News Channel Nebraska CEO, Andy Ruback said. “News Channel Nebraska is proud to be the chosen broadcast partner that will televise and stream for FREE this monumental moment for the sport to the entire state.” News Channel Nebraska (NCN) reaches more than 500,000 homes across the state. The match will be televised on NCN and can be watched on statewide providers like Dish (30 or 35), Allo (181), Spectrum (98, 99, 715 or 1233) and Cox (116). The match will also be viewable on other local cable providers that carry NCN throughout the state. Additionally, the match will be streamed online, free throughout the state, on NewsChannelNebraska.com as well as the free News Channel Nebraska app on Roku, Amazon Fire and Apple TV. Esteemed play-by-play announcer John Baylor and former Nebraska Volleyball National Champion and Olympian Nancy (Meendering) Metcalf will team up to lead News Channel Nebraska’s broadcast.
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Post by ajm on Feb 5, 2024 16:07:38 GMT -5
I cringe every time I hear "we" or "they" on a broadcast. Regardless of if I'm rooting for the home team or not, that's not professional sports broadcasting, in my opinion. (And Dorn needs to NEVER broadcast a match again, for more reasons than I can even count.) Pro fans call them "Homer" broadcasts. They happen more often than you think. Especially NHL, NBA, MLB & NCAA telecasts. A lot of these telecasts are actually produced by a local affiliate (either Bally's, local broadcast TV, or stream). A lot of ESPN+ and YouTube's content is from these sources. Usually, in the case of local TV, the commentary teams are the employees of the station. If it's a Bally's and/or MLB game the commentators are team employees. And, if it's a Div II or III stream, it's usually a student of the home team majoring in broadcast journalism. So, with the Supernovas' situation, I suspect they have some input, but the talent decisions are ultimately NCN's. Only productions done by the major networks (All NFL games, MLB game-of-the-week on FOX, TBS games, ESPN cable channels) are truly neutral. With the exception of the NFL, that means a majority of professional sports telecasts are "Homer". I know the major sports have Homer announcers for local team broadcasts, but these are leagues and fan bases with decades of stability. NCN certainly knew their telecast was going to be nationally simulcast. For them not to recognize the opportunity to speak to a national audience that the fledgling league is trying to grow is extremely short-sighted. And for all the talk of the lagging stream and Dorn's weird obsession with Oregon's uniforms, I think we're really letting Baylor off the hook for calling play-by-play without knowing the names of the participants. Baylor called Lindsay Stalzer "Vazquez" the entire match despite the cameras zooming on on the back of her jersey clearly showing her name. Was there no producer in his ear who could have corrected him after the first few times he said it? I even started to wonder whether he was doing it on purpose, perhaps trolling Stalzer due to some personal vendetta. And when Dorn said things like "that setter" he couldn't have immediately identified the player's name? Plus, getting Tayyiba Haneef-Park's name wrong. I can chalk up Dorn's missteps to lack of experience and professionalism, but for Baylor, who supposedly has 30 years of play-by-play experience, there really is no excuse for this level of incompetence.
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Post by genisvel on Feb 5, 2024 16:39:36 GMT -5
There were different sets of announcers. I just researched it. Jake Herman and Emily Ehman did the other broadcast. That version is available on YouTube. NCN did not post their version of the full broadcast, but they did post a highlights video. That video quality is poor compared to the Pro Volleyball Federation just as I remember it being. Importantly, I do not know if the actual broadcasts were the same feed. Not trying to make a big deal of this. My point was simply, watch something other than NCN to get a decent viewing. And I wanted to be sure I wasn’t losing it. This is from the Supernovas website in a news article still there: John Baylor, Olympian Nancy Metcalf to Spearhead Broadcast of Omaha Supernovas and Atlanta Vibe OMAHA, Neb. – The Omaha Supernovas, Nebraska’s first major league professional volleyball team in the Pro Volleyball Federation, are honored to announce that News Channel Nebraska will provide statewide coverage of the Omaha Supernovas’ historic first match against the Atlanta Vibe on Wednesday, January 24 at the CHI Health Center at 7:00 p.m. CST. “The popularity of women’s volleyball is unmatched in Nebraska, and it’s only fitting that this state is where the first Pro Volleyball Federation match is played,” News Channel Nebraska CEO, Andy Ruback said. “News Channel Nebraska is proud to be the chosen broadcast partner that will televise and stream for FREE this monumental moment for the sport to the entire state.” News Channel Nebraska (NCN) reaches more than 500,000 homes across the state. The match will be televised on NCN and can be watched on statewide providers like Dish (30 or 35), Allo (181), Spectrum (98, 99, 715 or 1233) and Cox (116). The match will also be viewable on other local cable providers that carry NCN throughout the state. Additionally, the match will be streamed online, free throughout the state, on NewsChannelNebraska.com as well as the free News Channel Nebraska app on Roku, Amazon Fire and Apple TV. Esteemed play-by-play announcer John Baylor and former Nebraska Volleyball National Champion and Olympian Nancy (Meendering) Metcalf will team up to lead News Channel Nebraska’s broadcast. I apologize. I thought you were referring to last Friday's Las Vegas game, not January 24th's Atlanta game.
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Post by genisvel on Feb 5, 2024 17:04:47 GMT -5
ajm, I'm not really trying to defend anyone. I'm just trying to make sure we're placing proper blame. Many on these boards are worried about how financialy stable this league is, but now we want them to produce every game in-house so they can control their broadcasters? It's fiscally responsible to have other parties have broadcast rights and production responsibilities. Maybe even profitable. Honestly, as someone who has followed start-up leagues, I was expecting this kind of quality. Especially after I learned who their streaming partner was. I'm impressed it took until Game 6 for a train wreck. Ironically, it wasn't Stadium's or Bally Live's fault as far as I can tell. Blaming them for the broadcast is like blaming a truckdriver that there's a roach in a sealed bottle of pills. Using that analogy, I would say that PVF is like the pharmacy. The roach in the sealed bottle of pills would be the manufacturer's fault. The manufacturer was NCN. I'm sure PVF and the Supernovas will put pressure on NCN to do better. The real question is if NCN will make the necessary adjustments by Wednesday. If you bail on the league because one team's broadcast partner sucks, that's on you. Me? It gives me another reason to root against a rival team even though I don't think they're fully at fault. Even if it was produced by one of the big four networks, people melt down on live TV.
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Post by coachdavid on Feb 5, 2024 22:05:36 GMT -5
Im out of the loop, whats the Dorn controversy?
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Post by genisvel on Feb 5, 2024 22:22:48 GMT -5
Im out of the loop, whats the Dorn controversy? The commentary for the San Diego @ Omaha match was a nightmare. While fans watching on YouTube were suffering through a glitchy stream and one-sided game, the color commentator decided she'd use the bully pulpit that was a hot mic on live television to voice her opinion on spandex that she feels rides too high on the back of the thigh. All the while she would fail to call players by their names. One she constantly referred to as the player's husband's wife. Meanwhile, whoever was the statistician for the commentary team was feeding the wrong names of players to poor John Baylor. It was the worst telecast I've ever seen, and I watch arena football.
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Post by Norah Sus on Feb 5, 2024 23:56:23 GMT -5
Im out of the loop, whats the Dorn controversy? She said something along the lines of “wanna know why I don’t watch more Oregon matches? One reason is their floor. And the other reason is.. their shorts are too short.” Then she went on a tirade about their shorts. And a few minutes later, even brought us back to the topic!
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Post by volleyguy on Feb 6, 2024 0:01:06 GMT -5
Im out of the loop, whats the Dorn controversy? She said something along the lines of “wanna know why I don’t watch more Oregon matches? One reason is their floor. And the other reason is.. their shorts are too short.” Then she went on a tirade about their shorts. And a few minutes later, even brought us back to the topic! Why is Lincoln Arneal not tweeting about this fiasco? lol
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Post by coachdavid on Feb 6, 2024 8:11:53 GMT -5
Im out of the loop, whats the Dorn controversy? She said something along the lines of “wanna know why I don’t watch more Oregon matches? One reason is their floor. And the other reason is.. their shorts are too short.” Then she went on a tirade about their shorts. And a few minutes later, even brought us back to the topic! I mean, I'm kind of with her on the floor. That thing gives me a headache. But the other stuff is definately no bueno.
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Post by schmidty on Feb 6, 2024 10:53:15 GMT -5
Im out of the loop, whats the Dorn controversy? The commentary for the San Diego @ Omaha match was a nightmare. While fans watching on YouTube were suffering through a glitchy stream and one-sided game, the color commentator decided she'd use the bully pulpit that was a hot mic on live television to voice her opinion on spandex that she feels rides too high on the back of the thigh. All the while she would fail to call players by their names. One she constantly referred to as the player's husband's wife. Meanwhile, whoever was the statistician for the commentary team was feeding the wrong names of players to poor John Baylor. It was the worst telecast I've ever seen, and I watch arena football. Dorn also continued to use language like "well in my gym", "that's not allowed in my gym", etc. when making the comments about the uniforms and mistakes by players. It was really weird to hear. Felt very much like she was talking from a place of great authority when probably most of the people listening had no clue who the heck she was, myself included. John Baylor's multiple attempts at pronouncing Temi Thomas-Ailara were cringe. It's like he just tried to say it fast and mumbled so no one would notice he didn't know the pronunciation. edit: a word
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Post by genisvel on Feb 7, 2024 15:22:00 GMT -5
@ 6:16 She talks about TV. Oddly, she said negotiations with Stadium and Bally are still ongoing. Wierd that they announced and promoted it when they did.
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Post by ajm on Feb 7, 2024 16:04:46 GMT -5
@ 6:16 She talks about TV. Oddly, she said negotiations with Stadium and Bally are still ongoing. Wierd that they announced and promoted it when they did. Makes me wonder whether the CBS Sports deal is not yet finalized either.
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