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Post by c4ndlelight on Mar 29, 2024 13:34:50 GMT -5
Why would Lyneel/Bassereau get a wild card for main draw? There are plenty of very accomplished Brazilian teams their level who could use that. Arthur/Adrielson being one of them. Even if there are two WC spots and there was a rule for only one being Brazilian, why Lyneel/Bassereau lol Guarantee you that someone in either Lyneeel or Bassereau's family has political pull. Or a ton of money, or both. But that's the way the world turns. Vanity, vanity, all is vanity. If my Dad could buy of pull my way into an Olympic WC spot, I wouldn't turn the other way, would you? The far more likely explanation for the WC is that Lyneel has the biggest name recognition from his indoor career. |
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Post by guest2 on Mar 29, 2024 13:36:01 GMT -5
I have 82 on google weather for this event, probably why no one is forfeiting yet. good point about the pleasant weather. Maybe the players have an informal agreement among themselves that if the conditions do not threaten heat stroke, nobody forfeits. Has any playee in the modern era actually suffered heat stroke during a tournament? Even back in the six sideout matches in the losers in one day era serious cramping or heat stroke almost never happened (maybe a couple times a summer). |
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Post by dunninla3 on Mar 29, 2024 13:46:47 GMT -5
good point about the pleasant weather. Maybe the players have an informal agreement among themselves that if the conditions do not threaten heat stroke, nobody forfeits. Has any playee in the modern era actually suffered heat stroke during a tournament? Even back in the six sideout matches in the losers in one day era serious cramping or heat stroke almost never happened (maybe a couple times a summer). Probably not with current nutritional guidelines. Whitty suffered terribly from it though. Ambulance and all if I recall. There was a King of the Beach one year in Vegas... thinking maybe 1996, where the players were just dying. |
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Post by dunninla3 on Mar 29, 2024 13:50:55 GMT -5
Guarantee you that someone in either Lyneeel or Bassereau's family has political pull. Or a ton of money, or both. But that's the way the world turns. Vanity, vanity, all is vanity. If my Dad could buy of pull my way into an Olympic WC spot, I wouldn't turn the other way, would you? The far more likely explanation for the WC is that Lyneel has the biggest name recognition from his indoor career. let's look at this in the context of the french teams at the time. Aye/Aye looked legit, so did Gauthier-Rat and (forget his partner's name), and effectively the Federation picked a non-starter on the actual sand and told both their existing top two teams that they either got in Top 18, or tough luck. To me that's an odd call, if as a Federation what you want is the best chance for your best (Beach) team to represent you in Paris.
Now, in hindsight, it looks like the French Federation gets their 3rd best team to represent them.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Mar 29, 2024 13:59:38 GMT -5
The far more likely explanation for the WC is that Lyneel has the biggest name recognition from his indoor career. let's look at this in the context of the french teams at the time. Aye/Aye looked legit, so did Gauthier-Rat and (forget his partner's name), and effectively the Federation picked a non-starter on the actual sand and told both their existing top two teams that they either got in Top 18, or tough luck. To me that's an odd call, if as a Federation what you want is the best chance for your best (Beach) team to represent you in Paris. Now, in hindsight, it looks like the French Federation gets their 3rd best team to represent them.
Are either of those teams going to qualify on their own merit? No. So it doesn't seem like they have a legit team. From the Federation's perspective, was probably a smart move to lure an indoor star (who had a beach background) back to the beach in hopes he could get a team to that level. In any case, he's probably not going to do worse than the other options. |
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Post by maizecrayons on Mar 29, 2024 14:01:57 GMT -5
The far more likely explanation for the WC is that Lyneel has the biggest name recognition from his indoor career. let's look at this in the context of the french teams at the time. Aye/Aye looked legit, so did Gauthier-Rat and (forget his partner's name), and effectively the Federation picked a non-starter on the actual sand and told both their existing top two teams that they either got in Top 18, or tough luck. To me that's an odd call, if as a Federation what you want is the best chance for your best (Beach) team to represent you in Paris.
Now, in hindsight, it looks like the French Federation gets their 3rd best team to represent them.
Even 3rd might be generous. There are a couple of decent young teams Canet/Rotar and Cattet/somebody I think? Maybe not better but worth an argument |
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Post by burnabyjo on Mar 29, 2024 14:43:36 GMT -5
some surprises here... BRA1 loses to SUI (3?) Breer / Krattiger. CUB loses to BRA (4?). Last night if you had seen the matchups, nobody would have picked those two BRA results. Theo v Andre in a Challenge pool elimination match is pretty surprising. Andre/George must have the largest variance of any team on tour. Anywhere from winning an Elite to uno-dos in a Challenge. equally as crazy as the Grimalt cousins in the last 6 years hahaha. Lose quali round 1 or win an event. Who knows? |
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Post by maizecrayons on Mar 29, 2024 15:08:33 GMT -5
some surprises here... BRA1 loses to SUI (3?) Breer / Krattiger. CUB loses to BRA (4?). Last night if you had seen the matchups, nobody would have picked those two BRA results. Theo v Andre in a Challenge pool elimination match is pretty surprising. Andre/George must have the largest variance of any team on tour. Anywhere from winning an Elite to uno-dos in a Challenge. Yeah they sure are hot and cold. Watching them today I was wondering if someone was coming back from/dealing with an injury it was so rough. |
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Post by guest2 on Mar 29, 2024 15:59:25 GMT -5
Theo v Andre in a Challenge pool elimination match is pretty surprising. Andre/George must have the largest variance of any team on tour. Anywhere from winning an Elite to uno-dos in a Challenge. equally as crazy as the Grimalt cousins in the last 6 years hahaha. Lose quali round 1 or win an event. Who knows? Good point, I can never get a read on those two. I remember when Nick/Phil cruised to the Doha final, then drew the Grimalts. I dont think they had lost a set all tournament - the US I mean. Drawing the Grimalts in the final felt like a bye, then Chile just stomped them. It was never close. I think the Grimalts finished last the next week. |
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Post by beachcoach on Mar 29, 2024 16:02:58 GMT -5
Not sure why teams dont get that Chase's line shot is what you have to stop on the option, but he gets insane mileage from it. The difference in confidence between the US teams now is remarkable. Mudinger's coach should get any job not held already by Mike Placek |
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Post by blackmambabeto on Mar 29, 2024 16:08:55 GMT -5
Not sure why teams dont get that Chase's line shot is what you have to stop on the option, but he gets insane mileage from it. The difference in confidence between the US teams now is remarkable. Mudinger's coach should get any job not held already by Mike Placek |
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Post by beachcoach on Mar 29, 2024 16:09:26 GMT -5
let's look at this in the context of the french teams at the time. Aye/Aye looked legit, so did Gauthier-Rat and (forget his partner's name), and effectively the Federation picked a non-starter on the actual sand and told both their existing top two teams that they either got in Top 18, or tough luck. To me that's an odd call, if as a Federation what you want is the best chance for your best (Beach) team to represent you in Paris. Now, in hindsight, it looks like the French Federation gets their 3rd best team to represent them.
Are either of those teams going to qualify on their own merit? No. So it doesn't seem like they have a legit team. From the Federation's perspective, was probably a smart move to lure an indoor star (who had a beach background) back to the beach in hopes he could get a team to that level. In any case, he's probably not going to do worse than the other options. GR and Krou were doing well. But injury has set them back. Maybe they have a late run ahead and into Ostrava who knows. |
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Post by ajm on Mar 29, 2024 16:22:19 GMT -5
On the women's side, they all appear to be playing their Pool Winners' games, with no forfeits thus far. I have 82 on google weather for this event, probably why no one is forfeiting yet. Now it looks like all four men's pool winner matches so far have forfeited. Mudinger, Horl/Horst, showing officially as forfeit. Herrera/Gavira vs Lyneel/Bassereau and Pedro/Guto vs H.Mol/Berntsen should both be playing now but the courts are empty. Two more coming up next hour. |
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Post by doodlebob on Mar 29, 2024 16:22:46 GMT -5
Looks like budinger Evans forfeited their second match that was supposed to be on center court against a home team. Hope no one showed up to watch and be disappointed. I feel like there should be some sort of penalty. I understand wanting to save energy but something about it seems so wrong to me.
Other sports play league games all the time that aren’t “playoffs”.
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Post by maizecrayons on Mar 29, 2024 16:25:11 GMT -5
I have 82 on google weather for this event, probably why no one is forfeiting yet. Now it looks like all four men's pool winner matches so far have forfeited. Mudinger, Horl/Horst, showing officially as forfeit. Herrera/Givira vs Lyneel/Bassereau and Pedro/Guto vs H.Mol/Berntsen should both be playing now but the courts are empty. Two more coming up next hour. it looks like you congratulated me too quickly! |
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