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Post by volleyguy on Aug 21, 2024 14:37:45 GMT -5
We all just want Lexi to be happy I’m glad someone has spoken out about ugly, unwanted player nicknames from Volleytalk. Some of you are actually really bad at this. Looking at you Wisconsin fans, Fuerbs is a hideous invention. It's not exactly an original invention. Her Dad goes by that (or at least, is called that).
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Post by volleyguy on Aug 21, 2024 14:43:11 GMT -5
Not gonna lie, I giggled (after being slightly offended). I imagine that poster dropping a mic after their post and strutting around for a bit, like a wannabe boss.
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Post by saywhatnow on Aug 21, 2024 15:09:21 GMT -5
Since someone had already brought up a tennis athlete, I’d also like to point out that Martina Hingis (at the time around the same age as Harper is now) had a complete meltdown at one of the biggest tennis stages, the French Open. Hingis was already ranked #1, a well compensated multi-millionaire, a professional for years with a team of other professionals highly regarded in their field. My point is, even a seasoned professional athlete at the top of their sport can fumble during a high pressure moment. Ya’ll are over-reacting to a 19 year old NIL-compensated college athlete’s inability to answer a reporter’s question in a way that YOU wanted her to reply. “Get her some media training” you say? Okay sure, let’s do that. Done. Move on. No pun intended, but let’s quit harping on this. Just so we're clear, this was NOT a "high pressure moment" this was the most predictable situation in history. It was a softball question lobbed over the plate by a friendly journalist attempting to tee her up to make her teammates look good, show her maturity in moving past the situation, and give an opening to parley this into team bonding as strength moving into the new season. If the staff and PR team didn't prep her for this possibility in advance, then that is a massive failure on their part. And if she can't handle even the most basic questioning about a very public event, especially those that are designed to make her look good, her volleyball prowess isn't going to compensate for her inability to present herself well. She's had 5 months to figure things out, and yet, here we are. However, for context, this is the same community and sports culture that gave us Tom Osborne and the "I don't care if the guys were beating their girlfriends or driving drunk, as long as they play football good" and the Lauren Cook hit-and-run debacle. So the responses and permissive attitude about this are unsurprising. To you it was a not high pressure moment, but to her, it clearly was. There is an expectation for her to show maturity when she is only 5 months removed from the incident. You are putting a timeline on someone who is still be processing the consequences of her poor decisions, and requiring them to move at your pace to "figure things out." Mentally and emotionally she may not be ready to answer even the simplest of questions. It's not as simple as that and sometimes we need to give people the grace to figure it out in their own time.
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Post by allballs on Aug 21, 2024 15:13:07 GMT -5
Not gonna lie, I giggled (after being slightly offended). I imagine that poster dropping a mic after their post and strutting around for a bit, like a wannabe boss. no one here does that but you
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Post by volleyguy on Aug 21, 2024 15:37:09 GMT -5
I imagine that poster dropping a mic after their post and strutting around for a bit, like a wannabe boss. no one here does that but you You could never pull it off anyway.
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Post by jcvball22 on Aug 21, 2024 15:41:59 GMT -5
Just so we're clear, this was NOT a "high pressure moment" this was the most predictable situation in history. It was a softball question lobbed over the plate by a friendly journalist attempting to tee her up to make her teammates look good, show her maturity in moving past the situation, and give an opening to parley this into team bonding as strength moving into the new season. If the staff and PR team didn't prep her for this possibility in advance, then that is a massive failure on their part. And if she can't handle even the most basic questioning about a very public event, especially those that are designed to make her look good, her volleyball prowess isn't going to compensate for her inability to present herself well. She's had 5 months to figure things out, and yet, here we are. However, for context, this is the same community and sports culture that gave us Tom Osborne and the "I don't care if the guys were beating their girlfriends or driving drunk, as long as they play football good" and the Lauren Cook hit-and-run debacle. So the responses and permissive attitude about this are unsurprising. To you it was a not high pressure moment, but to her, it clearly was. There is an expectation for her to show maturity when she is only 5 months removed from the incident. You are putting a timeline on someone who is still be processing the consequences of her poor decisions, and requiring them to move at your pace to "figure things out." Mentally and emotionally she may not be ready to answer even the simplest of questions. It's not as simple as that and sometimes we need to give people the grace to figure it out in their own time. If she is so fragile at this point that she can't even answer the most simple question, then why put her out there? If the situation is that dire, then this is a massive fail on the part of the staff and she shouldn't have been in the press conference.
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Post by allballs on Aug 21, 2024 15:52:07 GMT -5
no one here does that but you You could never pull it off anyway. and why would I or anyone want to. Pathetic
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Post by bluegrape on Aug 21, 2024 15:52:29 GMT -5
Oh my god, these are not “personal struggles”. She chose to get behind 2 tons of steel and go out on public roads while DRUNK. She was selfishly playing roulette with other people’s lives. People are allowed to ask and comment about it. The DUI apologists in here acting like Harper is a victim are mind boggling.
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Post by volleyguy on Aug 21, 2024 15:54:45 GMT -5
You could never pull it off anyway. and why would I or anyone want to. Pathetic That's a good question. Probably because you can't change what you are.
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Post by trojansc on Aug 21, 2024 15:58:47 GMT -5
I remember those UCLA men's basketball players getting it handed to themselves in the media after they admitted to shoplifting in China. The reaction could easily be characterized as extreme - especially to what reaction Harper's gotten by many in this thread.
Of course for them - they ended up with a nice redemption story. Let's see what happens with Harper.
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Post by n00b on Aug 21, 2024 16:25:31 GMT -5
I remember those UCLA men's basketball players getting it handed to themselves in the media after they admitted to shoplifting in China. The reaction could easily be characterized as extreme - especially to what reaction Harper's gotten by many in this thread. Of course for them - they ended up with a nice redemption story. Let's see what happens with Harper. Good call. Nebraska, Cook, and Murray could take some pointers from UCLA in how they handled the situation. For shoplifting, the three were suspended for the duration of the season.
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Post by allballs on Aug 21, 2024 16:26:54 GMT -5
For you. With all due respect, you weren’t the one in the press conference in front of reporters. You’re in front of a computer screen and keyboard with no one looking. I've been in plenty of press conferences for a variety of reasons: preseason, post-season, Final Four- both the winning and losing side, as both an athlete and a coach. So, I do have personal experience. These are genuinely not pressure cooker situations. Especially not preseason press conferences in front of friendly press. Great. Post them. Post those videos here so everyone can see and comment
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Post by photos1 on Aug 21, 2024 17:43:39 GMT -5
I remember those UCLA men's basketball players getting it handed to themselves in the media after they admitted to shoplifting in China. The reaction could easily be characterized as extreme - especially to what reaction Harper's gotten by many in this thread. Of course for them - they ended up with a nice redemption story. Let's see what happens with Harper. Yeah but that’s not the whole story is it? When the UCLA thieves were in China their detainment caused an international scandal, an international embarrassment for the US and UCLA. And it’s also true that in 2024 California unless you shoplift in excess of $950 worth of merchandise the police won’t even respond to the call. Murray committed crimes and the police responded and she is paying the price that the Nebraska state Unicameral has deemed necessary for these crimes. And despite what the legal eagles on VT are demanding, there will be no stocks in front of the Devaney for Murray to be placed in so the 8600 incoming fans can throw rotten vegetables at her for her penance before each match, nor will she face jail time or any of the other punishments or suspensions VT members are demanding. Cook has stated whatever the extrajudicial penalties she faced within the program they were more than satisfied. In addition she gave up the opportunity to play in the spring match and the opportunity to play for the U21 US team in June. She is also one of the top four players in the B1G yet the B1G’s Ehman oddity thinks it was necessary to rank her at number ten in her ridiculous top twenty vb players. All of this is quite amusing. . . 🏐
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Post by rjaege on Aug 21, 2024 17:54:42 GMT -5
So her forte is not press conferences. But she is a very good volleyball player. How is the money she makes relative to this discussion? Well it surely is all intertwined. She is making money through NIL (name, image, and likeness) which is now shaping the NCAA in a prominent way. Her name, image, and likeness, which is connected to Nebraska volleyball, are all impacted here. She is getting paid a lot of money, not just for playing volleyball, but for maintaining her image. How Harper and Nebraska choose to move forward with this situation has some future implications- for her, the program, her teammates, recruits, fans, NIL, etc. She made mistakes. Many youth do. Appears she is making amends and meeting legal, university and team expectations. This one non-answer in a press conference has little to no impact on her, the team's or NU NIL.
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Post by rjaege on Aug 21, 2024 17:56:27 GMT -5
So her forte is not press conferences. But she is a very good volleyball player. How is the money she makes relative to this discussion? You described her as a student. I'm pointing out that she is not just a student, she's effectively a professional athlete playing for one of the most popular sports teams in the state of Nebraska. If it was some biology major who got picked up for DUI and then shoplifting in the space of a few weeks nobody would care and there wouldn't be reporters asking them questions about it during a class presentation. LMAO. She is a student and amateur athlete. Not a professional athlete. Look it up.
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