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Post by babybacksets on Aug 29, 2024 4:17:06 GMT -5
I almost want to go back through this and find the dumb b**** that downplayed my bringing up the possibility of Harper dealing with the loss of her father playing a role in her acting out, even just a little. And from what I understand that is something that was mentioned in some of the troves of released Nebraska media?
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Post by mplssetter on Aug 29, 2024 7:35:18 GMT -5
I guess going to a high profile program also has a downside.
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Post by offindeedsoon on Aug 29, 2024 8:10:48 GMT -5
Calls to close/remove/delete this thread NOW are stranger than ever, given that over the past 5 days, there have been numerous pieces of media exclusively focused on this DUI, this time with the heavy participation of Harper herself in the telling. Mentions in a documentary, a whole 30 min episode on ESPN daily podcast, and a full ESPN article. Lots of content to digest, and help us better understand (which, yes, even now won't absolve her of much from some people's perspective, which is their right, given the potential terrible life-ending and altering consequences Harper--or anyone--driving drunk could create for oblivious and innocent drivers sharing the road with them. Luckily that did not happen here, but that's always a risk and I'll never begrudge someone for taking DUIs very seriously.). But, while I have not been reading every recent comment with a sharp eye, I also think the discourse towards Harper here this past week has never been kinder when it comes to this incident.
This will naturally die down, just as this thread remained pretty dormant for weeks and months over the summer, post her court dates, when there was no new information. People aren't dragging this thread up out of nowhere and commenting just to remind people about this, it's because it's once again news, with lots of new information, again straight from Harper's mouth.
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Post by gibbyb1 on Aug 29, 2024 8:31:45 GMT -5
I guess going to a high profile program also has a downside. Of course it does, attention is a double edged sword. |
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Post by treesandwaves on Aug 29, 2024 8:59:37 GMT -5
Jeeez, this thread is a worm for brains sometimes. Or maybe just the Nebraska faithful ha.
As someone with a bevy of mental health issues, I somehow have managed not to drink and drive… ever! It’s actually easy to not do. Maybe she needs to take a note from Hayley Hodson or Jenna Gabriel if she’s finding it so tough to deal with *checks notes* a really privileged role in Nebraska.
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Post by OHVBKING on Aug 29, 2024 9:05:02 GMT -5
Noticed she is not playing six rotations. I am sure this is John Cook trying to take some of the pressure off of her by not having to play the back row as much and quite frankly they have some other kids that probably deserve an opportunity to get on the court
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Post by treesandwaves on Aug 29, 2024 9:06:40 GMT -5
Also, this article does Nebraska no favors. That Harper is back so soon in the exact pressure cooker that made her suicidal does not bode well for how seriously they care about their players’ wellbeing. But go win those next 3 ‘ships, I guesss… she’s “figured everything out” anyway. Except, of course, how to answer a softball question that wasn’t even about her DUI.
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Post by slxpress on Aug 29, 2024 9:17:29 GMT -5
Noticed she is not playing six rotations. I am sure this is John Cook trying to take some of the pressure off of her by not having to play the back row as much and quite frankly they have some other kids that probably deserve an opportunity to get on the court I bet eventually she solidifies that role this year. I feel like the team is better off when she’s back there on defense and as a back row attack option. It’s a different kind of problem when Nebraska has more talent on the roster than spots on the court, but it can still be a problem. |
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Post by slxpress on Aug 29, 2024 9:23:27 GMT -5
Also, this article does Nebraska no favors. That Harper is back so soon in the exact pressure cooker that made her suicidal does not bode well for how seriously they care about their players’ wellbeing. But go win those next 3 ‘ships, I guesss… she’s “figured everything out” anyway. Except, of course, how to answer a softball question that wasn’t even about her DUI. Maybe. But that’s basically saying you know better about what’s good for Murray than the people around her, and every decision being made is based on a selfish agenda. Which may be true. But it also may be true that the last thing she needs to feel right now is completely rejected and isolated, and what you’re suggesting is the worst thing that could be done. I don’t have perfect knowledge, so I don’t know what the best approach is. I do know Murray has choices, and in the end she’s responsible for them regardless of circumstances. I don’t think either you or me knows exactly what the best approach is. Regardless, I didn’t think the article showed Nebraska in a poor light necessarily. |
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Post by cardinalvolleyball on Aug 29, 2024 9:36:57 GMT -5
One of the best personalities in all of sport |
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Post by knapplc on Aug 29, 2024 9:37:21 GMT -5
Noticed she is not playing six rotations. I am sure this is John Cook trying to take some of the pressure off of her by not having to play the back row as much and quite frankly they have some other kids that probably deserve an opportunity to get on the court Nebraska plays a lot of back-to-back matches this year. Nobody played six rotations Tuesday. Likely people will be rested as they can be, with quality depth filling in. As slxpress said, there's a lot of talent on the bench. It's a good problem to have. |
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Post by cornfarmer on Aug 29, 2024 10:18:45 GMT -5
Also, this article does Nebraska no favors. That Harper is back so soon in the exact pressure cooker that made her suicidal does not bode well for how seriously they care about their players’ wellbeing. But go win those next 3 ‘ships, I guesss… she’s “figured everything out” anyway. Except, of course, how to answer a softball question that wasn’t even about her DUI. Maybe. But that’s basically saying you know better about what’s good for Murray than the people around her, and every decision being made is based on a selfish agenda. Which may be true. But it also may be true that the last thing she needs to feel right now is completely rejected and isolated, and what you’re suggesting is the worst thing that could be done. I don’t have perfect knowledge, so I don’t know what the best approach is. I do know Murray has choices, and in the end she’s responsible for them regardless of circumstances. I don’t think either you or me knows exactly what the best approach is. Regardless, I didn’t think the article showed Nebraska in a poor light necessarily. I think its fair to say, or at least in my mind reading the article and not saying Nebraska exclusively is it’s clear that with NIL, every program must prioritize establishing strong support systems for their VB players. Monitoring social media and providing robust support when they face challenging situations is crucial. In today’s world, it’s essential to have a staff capable of guiding everyone through this evolving landscape. And I scrutinize Nebraska to degree in wondering if they are doing enough. |
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Post by slxpress on Aug 29, 2024 10:43:22 GMT -5
Maybe. But that’s basically saying you know better about what’s good for Murray than the people around her, and every decision being made is based on a selfish agenda. Which may be true. But it also may be true that the last thing she needs to feel right now is completely rejected and isolated, and what you’re suggesting is the worst thing that could be done. I don’t have perfect knowledge, so I don’t know what the best approach is. I do know Murray has choices, and in the end she’s responsible for them regardless of circumstances. I don’t think either you or me knows exactly what the best approach is. Regardless, I didn’t think the article showed Nebraska in a poor light necessarily. I think its fair to say, or at least in my mind reading the article and not saying Nebraska exclusively is it’s clear that with NIL, every program must prioritize establishing strong support systems for their VB players. Monitoring social media and providing robust support when they face challenging situations is crucial. In today’s world, it’s essential to have a staff capable of guiding everyone through this evolving landscape. And I scrutinize Nebraska to degree in wondering if they are doing enough. And yet it’s possible to do too much as well. I think it’s fairer to say there are no easy answers when it comes to mental health. My experience has been that many so called solutions end up being worse in some ways than the initial problem. There’s only so much a college program can do in terms of monitoring and enforcing social media usage. I feel like you’re implying the obvious right answer is more monitoring and more control, when it’s not clear to me the right answer is obvious. To me the problem starts much younger. We need to be emphasizing the compelling dynamics of social media and how we’re hardwired as human beings to engage with it (programmers know this and specifically design software to create compulsive and addictive interactions for monetization purposes). There needs to be a better awareness around what social media activity does to our brains and how we interact with one another. There needs to be a lot more purposefulness that this is the way we want to move forward as a society. If our only solution is to depend on college athletic departments to monitor and enforce the social media usage of young athletes I don’t think that’s any kind of solution whatsoever. I’m not even sure a lot of it would hold up in court, frankly. Especially any kind of monitoring and enforcement that was actually effective in curtailing damaging behavior. There are plenty of people who would not appreciate that level of monitoring and enforcement and see it as intrusive and excessive. |
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Post by gibbyb1 on Aug 29, 2024 10:53:52 GMT -5
Also, this article does Nebraska no favors. That Harper is back so soon in the exact pressure cooker that made her suicidal does not bode well for how seriously they care about their players’ wellbeing. But go win those next 3 ‘ships, I guesss… she’s “figured everything out” anyway. Except, of course, how to answer a softball question that wasn’t even about her DUI. Absurd. Murray, her family, medical professionals and the law didn’t have a say in her return timetable? C’mon man. |
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Post by knapplc on Aug 29, 2024 10:56:55 GMT -5
And yet it’s possible to do too much as well. I think it’s fairer to say there are no easy answers when it comes to mental health. My experience has been that many so called solutions end up being worse in some ways than the initial problem. There’s only so much a college program can do in terms of monitoring and enforcing social media usage. I feel like you’re implying the obvious right answer is more monitoring and more control, when it’s not clear to me the right answer is obvious. To me the problem starts much younger. We need to be emphasizing the compelling dynamics of social media and how we’re hardwired as human beings to engage with it (programmers know this and specifically design software to create compulsive and addictive interactions for monetization purposes). There needs to be a better awareness around what social media activity does to our brains and how we interact with one another. There needs to be a lot more purposefulness that this is the way we want to move forward as a society. If our only solution is to depend on college athletic departments to monitor and enforce the social media usage of young athletes I don’t think that’s any kind of solution whatsoever. I’m not even sure a lot of it would hold up in court, frankly. Especially any kind of monitoring and enforcement that was actually effective in curtailing damaging behavior. There are plenty of people who would not appreciate that level of monitoring and enforcement and see it as intrusive and excessive. He's not saying there's an obvious solution. He's saying "this is a step we could take," and saying Nebraska could be doing a better job in this regard. I think there's an argument to be made there. |
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