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Post by goblin on Jun 24, 2024 17:32:26 GMT -5
Stavros is growing and aging with every pic, wait until the beard and mustache take over. Hair or no hair, it would be amazing to see him don the green, black and white jerseys. Also excited to see Kainoa as a future Bow. In time, the younger Wade will no doubt be a force to be reckoned with. Even with the thinner roster than we've had in recent years, we may have more overall talent than a season ago, especially at both pin positions.
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Post by soljah808 on Jun 24, 2024 22:06:07 GMT -5
Kainoa still hasn't been reported as signed with Hawaii MVB but we all know that he is headed this way. And 2 more possible as well. We see what happens. But this class is stacked.....they are young but def stacked. I thought I read that he will be enrolling at UH in January. He’s probably still short a few classes to get into UH so I think he will spend the fall semester at Kamehameha to get the necessary classes before getting into UH. He is. But what I meant to say was Hawaii MVB themselves didn't put out his official commitment yet. But we know he is coming.
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Post by brooselee on Jun 24, 2024 22:11:01 GMT -5
Speaking of Cole Hogland, I get that feeling that Charlie sees a lot of Cole in Presley Longfellow.
I wouldn't be surprised if Charlie decided not to go after another MB because he feels Longfellow could be someone special in time. Also with Roman Payne due in next season, maybe Charlie thinks there is enough MBs for now.
There is also the possibility that JT gets moved to MB.UH have two MBs on the NT in Gasman and Averill so I hope JT embraces the potential move and sees it as a chance to be a future Olympian. Averill came to UH as an OPP/setter if I'm not mistaken.
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Post by alohavball on Jun 24, 2024 22:53:59 GMT -5
Speaking of Cole Hogland, I get that feeling that Charlie sees a lot of Cole in Presley Longfellow. I wouldn't be surprised if Charlie decided not to go after another MB because he feels Longfellow could be someone special in time. Also with Roman Payne due in next season, maybe Charlie thinks there is enough MBs for now. There is also the possibility that JT gets moved to MB.UH have two MBs on the NT in Gasman and Averill so I hope JT embraces the potential move and sees it as a chance to be a future Olympian. Averill came to UH as an OPP/setter if I'm not mistaken. Charlie Wade has used Presley at opposite at outrigger so he could be a versatile player for Hawaii. He's athletic and explosive which gives Wade options. I'm part of the group that wants to see JT in the middle. With his long reach he could be something special. Blocking will take some time to adjust, but it's something worth exploring if he doesn't get chances as an outside.
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Post by cosmo on Jun 25, 2024 15:13:58 GMT -5
I suspect it hasn't been discussed because he's not even in the gym yet and won't be for a while, but Wade in the middle? Opposite to middle is a pretty natural move, he's 6'9, making him tied for tallest on the roster with Kurt and Tread, and arguably he has a rougher path to the opposite than Todd does to the outside. (Todd is 3rd or 4th depth on the outside with 1 graduating player, Wade is 3rd in Opposite depth behind 2 people in his own class).
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Post by kb808 on Jun 25, 2024 16:52:40 GMT -5
I suspect it hasn't been discussed because he's not even in the gym yet and won't be for a while, but Wade in the middle? Opposite to middle is a pretty natural move, he's 6'9, making him tied for tallest on the roster with Kurt and Tread, and arguably he has a rougher path to the opposite than Todd does to the outside. (Todd is 3rd or 4th depth on the outside with 1 graduating player, Wade is 3rd in Opposite depth behind 2 people in his own class). OMG, that is such a great idea!!! NOT!!! Do you really think Coach Wade would convert his son who he’s hoping will be a future Olympian to middle.. NO WAY!!!
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Post by brooselee on Jun 25, 2024 17:30:57 GMT -5
I suspect it hasn't been discussed because he's not even in the gym yet and won't be for a while, but Wade in the middle? Opposite to middle is a pretty natural move, he's 6'9, making him tied for tallest on the roster with Kurt and Tread, and arguably he has a rougher path to the opposite than Todd does to the outside. (Todd is 3rd or 4th depth on the outside with 1 graduating player, Wade is 3rd in Opposite depth behind 2 people in his own class). OMG, that is such a great idea!!! NOT!!! Do you really think Coach Wade would convert his son who he’s hoping will be a future Olympian to middle.. NO WAY!!! I agree. I don’t think that will happen. If Charlie wanted Kainoa to be a middle, he would have converted him as a youth and not fool around at this late stage. You can fool around and move other people’s kids to other positions but not you own…..bwahahahahaha. 😂
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Post by cosmo on Jun 25, 2024 17:57:37 GMT -5
I suspect it hasn't been discussed because he's not even in the gym yet and won't be for a while, but Wade in the middle? Opposite to middle is a pretty natural move, he's 6'9, making him tied for tallest on the roster with Kurt and Tread, and arguably he has a rougher path to the opposite than Todd does to the outside. (Todd is 3rd or 4th depth on the outside with 1 graduating player, Wade is 3rd in Opposite depth behind 2 people in his own class). OMG, that is such a great idea!!! NOT!!! Do you really think Coach Wade would convert his son who he’s hoping will be a future Olympian to middle.. NO WAY!!! If Wade cared that much about making Kainoa the star Opposite of Hawaii, he would've never recruited Kearney, let alone Tritski. If that was Coach Wade's plan, I would hope Alan and Aiden Knipe have taught him a lesson about how horrible an idea that is.
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Post by wilbur on Jun 25, 2024 18:23:56 GMT -5
OMG, that is such a great idea!!! NOT!!! Do you really think Coach Wade would convert his son who he’s hoping will be a future Olympian to middle.. NO WAY!!! I agree. I don’t think that will happen. If Charlie wanted Kainoa to be a middle, he would have converted him as a youth and not fool around at this late stage. You can fool around and move other people’s kids to other positions but not you own…..bwahahahahaha. 😂 Hopefully Kainoa is choosing what position to pursue with coach's input. I think his current skill set is OPP and possible OH1 if he works hard at passing reps. His lateral footspeed is not a strength ATM which is critical at middle and he has more of a pin arm swing. He is young with lots of time to develop so if he is dedicated and works hard he can work toward MB, OH or OPP. I am really curious to see what the dynamic is between teh Wades for the next 4/5 years.
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Post by noblesol on Jun 25, 2024 19:27:42 GMT -5
Wade reminds me of Rama, a few years behind him though.
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Post by cosmo on Jun 25, 2024 21:05:34 GMT -5
I agree. I don’t think that will happen. If Charlie wanted Kainoa to be a middle, he would have converted him as a youth and not fool around at this late stage. You can fool around and move other people’s kids to other positions but not you own…..bwahahahahaha. 😂 Hopefully Kainoa is choosing what position to pursue with coach's input. I think his current skill set is OPP and possible OH1 if he works hard at passing reps. His lateral footspeed is not a strength ATM which is critical at middle and he has more of a pin arm swing. He is young with lots of time to develop so if he is dedicated and works hard he can work toward MB, OH or OPP. I am really curious to see what the dynamic is between teh Wades for the next 4/5 years. His skill set is most aptly built for opposite, I agree. But the fact that Tritski was recruited, on full ride at that, means he is the opposite to bet on. So Kainoa switches positions regardless. Whether that's to the left or middle. As it stands, I can't help but think middle is a more natural shift, maybe people disagree there. But I do heavily disagree with the idea that he can't get moved because he's the coach's son, when the coach specifically made his Son's class 3 U21 opposites deep (probably Hawaii's deepest position currently) of which Kainoa is 3rd depth. If anything, Kainoa's more likely than anyone else to move positions so he can guarantee a starting spot before anyone else
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Post by westcoastvolleyfreak on Jun 25, 2024 21:08:03 GMT -5
I suspect it hasn't been discussed because he's not even in the gym yet and won't be for a while, but Wade in the middle? Opposite to middle is a pretty natural move, he's 6'9, making him tied for tallest on the roster with Kurt and Tread, and arguably he has a rougher path to the opposite than Todd does to the outside. (Todd is 3rd or 4th depth on the outside with 1 graduating player, Wade is 3rd in Opposite depth behind 2 people in his own class). why would he change positions after training his entire life as a pin? logically, that does not make sense. granted a position change can happen in college, but as of right now, that does not make any sense.
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Post by cosmo on Jun 25, 2024 21:11:04 GMT -5
I suspect it hasn't been discussed because he's not even in the gym yet and won't be for a while, but Wade in the middle? Opposite to middle is a pretty natural move, he's 6'9, making him tied for tallest on the roster with Kurt and Tread, and arguably he has a rougher path to the opposite than Todd does to the outside. (Todd is 3rd or 4th depth on the outside with 1 graduating player, Wade is 3rd in Opposite depth behind 2 people in his own class). why would he change positions after training his entire life as a pin? logically, that does not make sense. granted a position change can happen in college, but as of right now, that does not make any sense. I mean, this came out of discussing Hogland and Averill, 2 of the best middles to come out of Hawaii in recent memory, and both in their countries' national teams, who both were recruited as pins. Not to mention that everyone's talking about doing the exact same thing to Todd, even before Koav mentioned he was taking reps there.
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Post by brooselee on Jun 26, 2024 0:20:42 GMT -5
why would he change positions after training his entire life as a pin? logically, that does not make sense. granted a position change can happen in college, but as of right now, that does not make any sense. I mean, this came out of discussing Hogland and Averill, 2 of the best middles to come out of Hawaii in recent memory, and both in their countries' national teams, who both were recruited as pins. Not to mention that everyone's talking about doing the exact same thing to Todd, even before Koav mentioned he was taking reps there. I think you need the skill sets to change positions. Not everyone have the skill sets to move. JT and Averill are obviously good athletes to be able to make that move Kainoa may be a very good volleyball player but I wouldn't put him in a great athlete category.
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Post by babybacksets on Jun 26, 2024 6:00:45 GMT -5
why would he change positions after training his entire life as a pin? logically, that does not make sense. granted a position change can happen in college, but as of right now, that does not make any sense. I mean, this came out of discussing Hogland and Averill, 2 of the best middles to come out of Hawaii in recent memory, and both in their countries' national teams, who both were recruited as pins. Not to mention that everyone's talking about doing the exact same thing to Todd, even before Koav mentioned he was taking reps there. Yea I gotta go with brooselee on this one. I don’t think Wade has the skill set that would make him a competitive middle, especially when it comes to moving laterally or foot speed in general. I like the JT move mostly because I want to see him on the court sooner than later, however if he is one of the best options at one of the outside spots, I’m here for it. But the way the logjam at OH is looking right now compared to not having an offensive presence in the middle currently on the roster, i think it could be a good move long term. i think Wade needs a redshirt year and seeing how this new crop of pins pan out that are actually supposed to be in this class. Then we can have an actual idea of where he might fit into the lineup, if at all.
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