|
|
Post by ManapuaSurprise on Apr 24, 2024 14:42:59 GMT -5
i dont see any of the Power 5 football conferences sponsoring men's VB. I dont blame Title IX tho, i blame football for taking up all the scholies slots Not sure how conferences sponsoring impact schools sponsoring. Conferences don’t dictate sports offered by the school. The school does. Or else why would any current Power 5 school have Men’s volleyball? the discussion is if the Big 10 will sponsor MVB |
|
|
|
Post by CityTechLegend on May 5, 2024 8:54:52 GMT -5
i dont see any of the Power 5 football conferences sponsoring men's VB. I dont blame Title IX tho, i blame football for taking up all the scholies slots Not sure how conferences sponsoring impact schools sponsoring. Conferences don’t dictate sports offered by the school. The school does. Or else why would any current Power 5 school have Men’s volleyball? GREAT POINT! Please understand, a conference sponsoring a sport is not the same as a school sponsoring a sport. Title IX effects schools, not the conference (so much). A conference's job is simple. If there are enough schools, or there is enough "buzz" around a sport (no matter the gender) and the conference sees this as an opportunity to gain more notoriety, and thus more money, then the conference will sponsor it. End of subject. Outside of Title IX, a school sponsoring a sport has everything to do with money. UCLA, USC, CAL, Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Minnesota, Michigan State, and Michigan all have Rowing as a sponsored NCAA recognized sport. Rowing is sponsored for men and women at these institutions. It is also a scholarship sport. An Olympic sport. It is a very costly sport, due to the equipment, and insurances that go with rowing. Additionally, one must factor in the practice scheduling, regattas, flights for the team and support staff, equipment transport, roster requirements, etc. that come with rowing. Title IX does not effect this sport. The rosters are usually huge. They can be somewhere between 20 and 30 players combined by gender. Men's volleyball wouldn't have half the cost of rowing, maybe even only a third in some cases. The insurance alone is cheaper. So (as they say in the hood) "miss with that garbage." It's not all on Title IX. It's on the schools...and rightly so. Do I like it? Hell no! Schools, in our country, have become money makers. Colleges and universities are in the business of making money! So, as a result administrations want to add value by adding things that they feel work in the best interests of making money. Adding a sport isn't always the thing. Look at Women's Hockey. How many women's hockey teams are there in the nation at the college level? There was a huge buzz in the late 90's and early millennia for women's hockey. What happened? schools in certain locales started adding it. Did every school add it? No. It was those schools that saw the value in that sport due to the regional fervor. Are those programs still around? A few. Have all of them gone to the NCAAs? No, but the buzz and those programs are still around due to the popularity of the sport and the way those schools support those programs. At the end of the day it will always come down to the money. If a school doesn't see green at the end of the road when adding a sport, or if they feel that sport will cost their institution more than it will bring in, then starting that sport will not happen. Does men's volleyball, at the D1 level brign in enough money for the B1G schools to see a profit? If the answer is no...then we all know that the B1G as conference won't sponsor the sport and force the hand of schools to start men's volleyball. There is a line in "Hamilton" that goes as follows,"just follow the money and see where it goes..." If you want to see men's volleyball enter the lexicon of D1 sports, at a higher rate, then we have to start following the money and see HOW it goes, not just where. But that's just my opinion... |
|
|
|
Post by volley4ever on May 5, 2024 18:24:41 GMT -5
I am really surprised Liberty has not started a program. They heavily recruit for their club team (although their club team isn’t that good), but they have a weird buy-in to men’s volleyball and they are not a school in financial trouble.
|
|
HawkDad
Sophomore
Posts: 115
Member is Online
|
Post by HawkDad on May 5, 2024 23:58:51 GMT -5
The B1G will sponsor a sport if 6 or more of their member schools participate. As of the 2025 season they will have 4. The question is which other B1G schools would add mens volleyball?
|
|
|
|
Post by blinkme123 on Jul 3, 2024 16:50:28 GMT -5
There is a new D1 in the northeast that should be announced next week. Non-HBCU.
|
|
|
|
Post by CityTechLegend on Jul 3, 2024 18:48:07 GMT -5
There is a new D1 in the northeast that should be announced next week. Non-HBCU. UMES has already been announced. UMES = University of Maryland Eastern Shore What other D1 is planning on starting up men's volleyball in the northeast? |
|
|
|
Post by blinkme123 on Jul 3, 2024 19:26:22 GMT -5
There is a new D1 in the northeast that should be announced next week. Non-HBCU. UMES has already been announced. UMES = University of Maryland Eastern Shore What other D1 is planning on starting up men's volleyball in the northeast? It hasn't been announced yet and I'm not at liberty to share. |
|
|
|
Post by volleybro on Jul 9, 2024 9:29:31 GMT -5
Manhattan College just announced to add Men’s Volleyball. Will join the NEC. Another big win for the Men’s Volleyball!
|
|
|
|
Post by akbar on Jul 9, 2024 10:16:14 GMT -5
Manhattan College just announced to add Men’s Volleyball. Will join the NEC. Another big win for the Men’s Volleyball! Manhattan College “Jaspers” fields 19 Division–I athletic teams for men and women, including basketball, golf, soccer, baseball and softball, lacrosse, volleyball, and rowing. Historically track and field has been the school's strongest sport. Unfortunately like many colleges, especially in the Northeast they have been facing financial difficulties and declining enrollment. I am hopeful that trend Nationwide will level out. Very nice location and Campus |
|
|
|
Post by Not Me on Jul 9, 2024 12:47:48 GMT -5
Manhattan College just announced to add Men’s Volleyball. Will join the NEC. Another big win for the Men’s Volleyball! Manhattan College “Jaspers” fields 19 Division–I athletic teams for men and women, including basketball, golf, soccer, baseball and softball, lacrosse, volleyball, and rowing. Historically track and field has been the school's strongest sport. Unfortunately like many colleges, especially in the Northeast they have been facing financial difficulties and declining enrollment. I am hopeful that trend Nationwide will level out. Very nice location and Campus They have one of the 15 worst women’s programs in D1. Have any of these schools that don’t support their women’s team have any success when they add a Men’s team? Will the coach be allowed to coach from inside? Or will they have to yell through an open window? |
|
|
|
Post by Spike Town on Jul 9, 2024 13:21:34 GMT -5
Not sure how conferences sponsoring impact schools sponsoring. Conferences don’t dictate sports offered by the school. The school does. Or else why would any current Power 5 school have Men’s volleyball? GREAT POINT! Please understand, a conference sponsoring a sport is not the same as a school sponsoring a sport. Title IX effects schools, not the conference (so much). A conference's job is simple. If there are enough schools, or there is enough "buzz" around a sport (no matter the gender) and the conference sees this as an opportunity to gain more notoriety, and thus more money, then the conference will sponsor it. End of subject. Outside of Title IX, a school sponsoring a sport has everything to do with money. UCLA, USC, CAL, Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Minnesota, Michigan State, and Michigan all have Rowing as a sponsored NCAA recognized sport. Rowing is sponsored for men and women at these institutions. It is also a scholarship sport. An Olympic sport. It is a very costly sport, due to the equipment, and insurances that go with rowing. Additionally, one must factor in the practice scheduling, regattas, flights for the team and support staff, equipment transport, roster requirements, etc. that come with rowing. Title IX does not effect this sport. The rosters are usually huge. They can be somewhere between 20 and 30 players combined by gender. Men's volleyball wouldn't have half the cost of rowing, maybe even only a third in some cases. The insurance alone is cheaper. So (as they say in the hood) "miss with that garbage." It's not all on Title IX. It's on the schools...and rightly so. Do I like it? Hell no! Schools, in our country, have become money makers. Colleges and universities are in the business of making money! So, as a result administrations want to add value by adding things that they feel work in the best interests of making money. Adding a sport isn't always the thing. Look at Women's Hockey. How many women's hockey teams are there in the nation at the college level? There was a huge buzz in the late 90's and early millennia for women's hockey. What happened? schools in certain locales started adding it. Did every school add it? No. It was those schools that saw the value in that sport due to the regional fervor. Are those programs still around? A few. Have all of them gone to the NCAAs? No, but the buzz and those programs are still around due to the popularity of the sport and the way those schools support those programs. At the end of the day it will always come down to the money. If a school doesn't see green at the end of the road when adding a sport, or if they feel that sport will cost their institution more than it will bring in, then starting that sport will not happen. Does men's volleyball, at the D1 level brign in enough money for the B1G schools to see a profit? If the answer is no...then we all know that the B1G as conference won't sponsor the sport and force the hand of schools to start men's volleyball. There is a line in "Hamilton" that goes as follows,"just follow the money and see where it goes..." If you want to see men's volleyball enter the lexicon of D1 sports, at a higher rate, then we have to start following the money and see HOW it goes, not just where. But that's just my opinion... So true. And, a “Hamilton” quote on volleytalk is next, next level. Love it. |
|
|
|
Post by gofaster88 on Jul 9, 2024 15:08:46 GMT -5
Manhattan College just announced to add Men’s Volleyball. Will join the NEC. Another big win for the Men’s Volleyball! Manhattan College “Jaspers” fields 19 Division–I athletic teams for men and women, including basketball, golf, soccer, baseball and softball, lacrosse, volleyball, and rowing. Historically track and field has been the school's strongest sport. Unfortunately like many colleges, especially in the Northeast they have been facing financial difficulties and declining enrollment. I am hopeful that trend Nationwide will level out. Very nice location and Campus I hope this doesn't turn into another St Francis situation where the money only last a few years and the program shuts down. |
|
|
|
Post by gofaster88 on Jul 10, 2024 17:11:59 GMT -5
Not sure how conferences sponsoring impact schools sponsoring. Conferences don’t dictate sports offered by the school. The school does. Or else why would any current Power 5 school have Men’s volleyball? GREAT POINT! Please understand, a conference sponsoring a sport is not the same as a school sponsoring a sport. Title IX effects schools, not the conference (so much). A conference's job is simple. If there are enough schools, or there is enough "buzz" around a sport (no matter the gender) and the conference sees this as an opportunity to gain more notoriety, and thus more money, then the conference will sponsor it. End of subject. Outside of Title IX, a school sponsoring a sport has everything to do with money. UCLA, USC, CAL, Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Minnesota, Michigan State, and Michigan all have Rowing as a sponsored NCAA recognized sport. Rowing is sponsored for men and women at these institutions. It is also a scholarship sport. An Olympic sport. It is a very costly sport, due to the equipment, and insurances that go with rowing. Additionally, one must factor in the practice scheduling, regattas, flights for the team and support staff, equipment transport, roster requirements, etc. that come with rowing. Title IX does not effect this sport. The rosters are usually huge. They can be somewhere between 20 and 30 players combined by gender. Men's volleyball wouldn't have half the cost of rowing, maybe even only a third in some cases. The insurance alone is cheaper. So (as they say in the hood) "miss with that garbage." It's not all on Title IX. It's on the schools...and rightly so. Do I like it? Hell no! Schools, in our country, have become money makers. Colleges and universities are in the business of making money! So, as a result administrations want to add value by adding things that they feel work in the best interests of making money. Adding a sport isn't always the thing. Look at Women's Hockey. How many women's hockey teams are there in the nation at the college level? There was a huge buzz in the late 90's and early millennia for women's hockey. What happened? schools in certain locales started adding it. Did every school add it? No. It was those schools that saw the value in that sport due to the regional fervor. Are those programs still around? A few. Have all of them gone to the NCAAs? No, but the buzz and those programs are still around due to the popularity of the sport and the way those schools support those programs. At the end of the day it will always come down to the money. If a school doesn't see green at the end of the road when adding a sport, or if they feel that sport will cost their institution more than it will bring in, then starting that sport will not happen. Does men's volleyball, at the D1 level brign in enough money for the B1G schools to see a profit? If the answer is no...then we all know that the B1G as conference won't sponsor the sport and force the hand of schools to start men's volleyball. There is a line in "Hamilton" that goes as follows,"just follow the money and see where it goes..." If you want to see men's volleyball enter the lexicon of D1 sports, at a higher rate, then we have to start following the money and see HOW it goes, not just where. But that's just my opinion... So, if 4.5 scholarships and rosters approaching 25 in most Men's D1 programs lately wouldn't that be money generating in terms of enrollment dollars for most of these schools? That seems to be how the NAIA justifies most of their programs. Title IX has to be the biggest factor preventing it. |
|
|
|
Post by digbigvolley22 on Jul 17, 2024 8:41:14 GMT -5
Manhattan College “Jaspers” fields 19 Division–I athletic teams for men and women, including basketball, golf, soccer, baseball and softball, lacrosse, volleyball, and rowing. Historically track and field has been the school's strongest sport. Unfortunately like many colleges, especially in the Northeast they have been facing financial difficulties and declining enrollment. I am hopeful that trend Nationwide will level out. Very nice location and Campus I hope this doesn't turn into another St Francis situation where the money only last a few years and the program shuts down. They didn’t just shut down men’s volleyball they shut down the entire athletic department |
|
|
|
Post by gofaster88 on Jul 17, 2024 10:21:44 GMT -5
|
|
