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Post by trojansc on Jun 12, 2024 19:55:34 GMT -5
That post was about Olympic qualification.. Canada can't make up enough ground in world rankings points. VNL Final scenarios are a little different. Canada's situation is unique (it's even mathematically possible for Canada to win out, make VNL Finals over USA and Netherlands, but miss Paris). It's unlikely, but possible. So if Canada can't make up enough ground in world ranking points, how can they qualify for Paris? Sorry - wasn't too clear in the response: Canada can't make up the ground if the scenario that in the post you were quoting happened. They can make still up the ground if USA beats Netherlands OR Canada beats Japan, they are still alive for world ranking/Paris qualification. They cannot make up the ground if Netherlands beats USA *and* Canada loses to Japan. A Canada win OR Netherlands loss tonight is enough to keep their Olympic hopes alive
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Post by WahineFan44 on Jun 12, 2024 19:56:56 GMT -5
So if Canada can't make up enough ground in world ranking points, how can they qualify for Paris? Sorry - wasn't too clear in the response: Canada can't make up the ground if the scenario that in the post you were quoting happened. They can make still up the ground if USA beats Netherlands OR Canada beats Japan, they are still alive for world ranking/Paris qualification. They cannot make up the ground if Netherlands beats USA *and* Canada loses to Japan. A Canada win OR Netherlands loss tonight is enough to keep their Olympic hopes alive Percentage wise, what are the odds if they beat Japan and we beat Netherlands
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Post by bbg95 on Jun 12, 2024 19:57:43 GMT -5
So if Canada can't make up enough ground in world ranking points, how can they qualify for Paris? Sorry - wasn't too clear in the response: Canada can't make up the ground if the scenario that in the post you were quoting happened. They can make still up the ground if USA beats Netherlands OR Canada beats Japan, they are still alive for world ranking/Paris qualification. They cannot make up the ground if Netherlands beats USA *and* Canada loses to Japan. A Canada win OR Netherlands loss tonight is enough to keep their Olympic hopes alive Okay, that makes sense. Thanks for the explanation.
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Post by trojansc on Jun 12, 2024 20:02:00 GMT -5
Sorry - wasn't too clear in the response: Canada can't make up the ground if the scenario that in the post you were quoting happened. They can make still up the ground if USA beats Netherlands OR Canada beats Japan, they are still alive for world ranking/Paris qualification. They cannot make up the ground if Netherlands beats USA *and* Canada loses to Japan. A Canada win OR Netherlands loss tonight is enough to keep their Olympic hopes alive Percentage wise, what are the odds if they beat Japan and we beat Netherlands If that happens, Canada just need to beat Netherlands and they would qualify. fileames.github.io/volleyball_rankings/ is a calculator you can use to run multiple scenarios
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Post by bbg95 on Jun 12, 2024 20:08:39 GMT -5
Percentage wise, what are the odds if they beat Japan and we beat Netherlands If that happens, Canada just need to beat Netherlands and they would qualify. fileames.github.io/volleyball_rankings/ is a calculator you can use to run multiple scenarios That's pretty handy. I didn't realize that it also factors in the number of sets won rather than just the matches. So, for example, if Canada beat the Netherlands 3-0 or 3-1, that would put them ahead of the Dutch in the rankings. But if they win 3-2, then the Netherlands would stay ahead.
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Post by trojansc on Jun 12, 2024 20:15:18 GMT -5
The Dutch have settled on Marring and Knoellma as their outsides (After they played sparingly in the first couple VNL matches). I posted in the main VNL thread that I'm just not sure if that's the best for them. I've read some takes from some Dutch fans that aren't sold either - but tbh, it does seem like a crapshoot either way.
I really like Jasper's presence on court - but I understand it comes with some liabilities. But watching how awful Netherlands can be in serve receive (to a lesser extent, defense), I just feel like I would like Jasper on court.
Dambrink also may struggle to terminate against USA.
I like USA here, as a much more disciplined team. But I could certainly see Netherlands in this, particularly if they hold up on serve receive and their middles have a night.
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Post by tjm on Jun 12, 2024 20:28:03 GMT -5
oh this match is at 10? I can do that. just be a little extra tired for work tomorrow cons of moving to the east coast
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Post by Reach on Jun 12, 2024 21:34:36 GMT -5
LC/Drews KP/Cook Chi/Donna
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Post by uofaGRAD on Jun 12, 2024 21:35:01 GMT -5
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Post by Disc808 on Jun 12, 2024 21:37:44 GMT -5
The return of Drews!! And KP better show up because Imoco duo is back and Carlini setting
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Post by aquaphortm on Jun 12, 2024 21:37:51 GMT -5
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Post by GatorsChomp on Jun 12, 2024 21:38:42 GMT -5
That's pretty handy. I didn't realize that it also factors in the number of sets won rather than just the matches. So, for example, if Canada beat the Netherlands 3-0 or 3-1, that would put them ahead of the Dutch in the rankings. But if they win 3-2, then the Netherlands would stay ahead. If Canada loses 3-1 to Japan but beats Netherlands 3-2 they stay ahead. At this point they just need to beat Japan and Netherlands or not get sweeped by Japan and beat Netherlands... Kinda need USA to sweep the Dutch tonight
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Post by herecomesthebusboom on Jun 12, 2024 21:38:51 GMT -5
We finally get our Conegliano duo together <3
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Post by GatorsChomp on Jun 12, 2024 21:39:53 GMT -5
I am predicting Rettke/Ogbogu KRob/Plummer Poulter/Drews JWO Kinda close! I really thought Poulter would start but maybe LC will be the Olympic starter now...
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Post by herecomesthebusboom on Jun 12, 2024 21:40:43 GMT -5
Iโm def going to be looking to see if Poulter is dressed to play tonight. If sheโs in pants again that canโt be a good sign.
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