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Post by gtrich on Jun 24, 2024 22:22:18 GMT -5
The first time we saw Charlie as a coach was 15's year in Kansas City. He had Rado on the bench and our kids and our coach were kind of star struck in the first set. If we end up playing them again this year, it will be the fourth year in a row that we've played Charlie and his Outrigger team at nationals.
Other college coaches I know of:
Brad Rostratter of UCSD used to coach Balboay Bay and had his Vanguard kids coaching at a lot of the local clubs
Matt Pollock of Pepperdine coaches at MB Surf
was already mentioned, but McKay Smith of LB coaches at Pinnacle (we played his team in 16's and 17's. I'm not sure if we'll play them this year at Nationals
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Post by GrowingTheGame14 on Jun 24, 2024 22:29:21 GMT -5
I believe the rule is as long as the athletes are all within 75 miles of the club. It may be 50. You’ve seen it on the girls side before. They just aren’t allowed to coach within quiet periods; which I don’t think the boys have quiet periods in the winter/spring. Charlie has coached that team for a few years now he was their coach when they were 16s. Yep Charlie has coached Outrigger due to Kainoa I'm sure. Not certain if he'll continue after he's at UH. Shawn Olmstead will also coach an 18s team next season but I am not aware of any other headcoaches currently on the boys side and you're correct, it's 50 miles. And these large pools are really interesting, I swear I got an email during the last year or read online somewhere that the large pools are to combat the bad first day syndrome where you can be screwed after one bad day and end up in the lower half and no chance of gold bracket after that. The seeding committee was mentioned above, is that how it's done now? Do the club directors have to load game results somewhere or how does it work when lot of the west coast with big meaningful tournaments are in Sportwrench and the AES/USAV rankings are totally useless and there are few other regional systems too like tm2sign.com or vbschedule.com. It would be nice to get a uniform club team RPI ranking or something. Any chance of that happening? Not sure. It was promoted and told that club directors were required to input the data on AES from events and some clubs were doing it, but those you mentioned didn’t and still got seeded as you would assume they should be. The AAU has done a summit with the club directors each year. One in the Midwest, one out west. I am sure they will do again this year. It was told it was going to combat that, and allow better matches in pool play. But you’re still going to get some of those matches that are boring (one seeds will probably cruise through 4-5 of the pool plays) and then the teams who should get knocked out and go 0-3 on day 1 still won’t make it. If a team is 0-3 on day 1, there is no business in keeping them in it. Let them find success in their event, not wait until day 4 to find it. There will be a handful of teams that are 0-7 walking into day 3. Probably shouldn’t be in open in the first place, but it’s the decision they elected to do. But oh well, I’ve said my piece. Is what it is and hope I’m proven wrong and it’s a great event in 2024. AAU is full of tremendous people and host great events. Lets play some volleyball |
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Post by blinkme123 on Jun 24, 2024 23:29:55 GMT -5
Kind of a weird typo considering the amount of layers that have to occur for him to be listed (AAU player membership instead of coach, added to the roster on AES by staff, all info filled out, etc). Also, since when are college coaches allowed to coach 18s? Charlie Wade listed as the HC of that team. I really doubt Tread wants to or the club plans to have him play for outrigger. He has been on the bench and coaches for the club this year. Charlie has used players in the past the same way, I think it is a good recruiting tool. College coaches have been coaching 17s and 18s and probably other ages for a while, I am not up to date on the exact NCAA rules but they have been. Pinnacle - 18s literally has the assistant of CSuLB in the team's name. Rockstar has have UCLA coaches before. Balboa 18 is a listed volunteer CSuLB coach... I can think of several more of the top of my head and there are probably many more I am not aware of. Oh yeah, I didn't that they were actually going to try and get him to play somehow; more that I'm curious exactly what procedure led him to be rostered. Interesting about coaches - I knew college coaches could coach club, but people in my region whom I've spoken had told me that they couldn't coach 18's. Others saying the qualifier of athletes' proximity to the club is interesting. Thanks! |
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Post by gofaster88 on Jun 25, 2024 8:15:23 GMT -5
There will be a handful of teams that are 0-7 walking into day 3. Probably shouldn’t be in open in the first place, but it’s the decision they elected to do. Unless I'm reading it wrong it's still 0-6 walking into day 3 for Open. On Day 3 you play your final Pool Play match for 7 total. 1st and 4th in pool get a bye for their respective seeding flights and will play a maximum of 2 games on day 3. 2nd, 3rd, 5th, and 6th can either play 2 or 3 games depending on if they win their first seeding game. 7th and 8th are guaranteed 3 games that day (final pool game then 2 for seeding). So, I guess it's possible to be 0-9 going into Day 4. Minimum number of games you can play over 4 days would be 9 and Maximum appears to be 12 in case anyone was wondering (this is all based on 18 Open) |
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Post by coy on Jun 25, 2024 9:13:49 GMT -5
Cue the Midwest teams complaining about how this format “screws” them out of advancing to gold bracket (when they were destined to be day 3 knockouts anyway) Seeds look good I think the only time Midwest teams start discussing these things is when non-Midwest people claim they complain about these things. A bit of an obsession out there. Kind of weird. |
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Post by MonroeClark90 on Jun 25, 2024 10:43:22 GMT -5
Cue the Midwest teams complaining about how this format “screws” them out of advancing to gold bracket (when they were destined to be day 3 knockouts anyway) Seeds look good I think the only time Midwest teams start discussing these things is when non-Midwest people claim they complain about these things. A bit of an obsession out there. Kind of weird. Guy's a troll. Don't take the bait. The annoying sub on the end of the bench talking 10-times more trash than the guys actually playing on the court. |
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Post by 1volleyballer1 on Jun 26, 2024 23:40:06 GMT -5
Anyone know when Wave 2 schedule is released, im thinking tomorrow?
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Post by GrowingTheGame14 on Jun 27, 2024 7:42:35 GMT -5
Anyone know when Wave 2 schedule is released, im thinking tomorrow? If AAU stays consistent with schedule release, it will likely be Friday or Saturday. They’ve been releasing court schedules 5-6 days out from the start. |
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Post by rcski77 on Jun 27, 2024 11:42:38 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2024 19:01:15 GMT -5
The team with the biggest concern coming into next week is 949 in 16s being matched up against Triangle in the semi’s of gold
That’s the team you don’t want in your path to the finals
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Post by theinsider4545 on Jun 29, 2024 15:03:39 GMT -5
Next year they are stopping anyone from entering open. They will cap open at 48 teams max. I don’t like the 8 team pools with only 3 getting out. If you are doing 8 teams pools I think 4 should get out similar to how if it’s a 4 team pool top 2 get out.
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Post by stelsonvb on Jul 1, 2024 14:32:15 GMT -5
Sports Performance killing it in U16 Open, that 949 team is legit. Take that #1 seed and fly SPVC!
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Post by northern14 on Jul 1, 2024 14:35:16 GMT -5
Outside of open division what division (club, elite, premier) would you say has the best talent?
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Post by volleybro on Jul 1, 2024 15:48:48 GMT -5
For 18’s open, Balboa Bay and MB Surf separate from the rest. Some really big and talented players across the division
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Post by genomiller on Jul 1, 2024 15:58:51 GMT -5
Next year they are stopping anyone from entering open. They will cap open at 48 teams max. I don’t like the 8 team pools with only 3 getting out. If you are doing 8 teams pools I think 4 should get out similar to how if it’s a 4 team pool top 2 get out. Glad to know I’m not the only one who thinks 8 team pools are a bad idea. Yeah it does remove that chance of going 1-2 or 0-3 on day 1 but now it opens the possibly for crappy seeding. Some pools are noticeably stronger/weaker than others. A few teams are getting 2nd or 3rd tomorrow that maybe don’t deserve to go on |
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