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Post by kashi on Jul 24, 2024 13:45:38 GMT -5
What do you mean by "instate" roster limit? Verb, meaning to establish Ah thank you. Was thinking in-state vs out of state residents. Duh.
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Post by n00b on Jul 24, 2024 13:45:48 GMT -5
Another important point: All sports will be considered "equivalency" sports. No more requirements for full scholarships. Schools can structure it however they want, as long as they don't exceed the roster limit. This is probably more important to non-revenue sports, and smaller schools, who will have more tight budgeting, I would think. To me, this is a distinction without a difference. You can give partial scholarships now, you just can’t give money to more than 12 athletes. You will probably see it more going forward because the number of programs who don’t have 18 scholarships will be considerably higher than number of schools who have less than 12 scholarships. But it works same way.
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Post by azcatsfan on Jul 24, 2024 13:48:04 GMT -5
Also why the hell do baseball and softball need so many players? I get baseball needs more than softball just because of pitching - but THAT many for either is crazy. If you think about it, at any given time in softball you’re putting nine players on the field. If you have one backup per position that’s 18, plus some additional pitching. 25 might be a lot, but not by much. Arizona in 2023 was working with a roster size of 18 if memory serves, and was forced to use pitchers as pinch runners due to injuries.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Jul 24, 2024 13:59:21 GMT -5
The rich get richer…
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Post by jeepers on Jul 24, 2024 14:10:10 GMT -5
Still only six players on the court at a time.
This is just going to make the transfer portal crazier.
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Post by gopherhim on Jul 24, 2024 14:16:28 GMT -5
I’m not sure if any schools fit this description but if they have large 2023 and 2024 classes plus commitments from ‘25 and ‘26 that would put them over the roster limit of 18, will cuts have to be made/offers withdrawn?
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Post by jwvolley on Jul 24, 2024 14:18:03 GMT -5
I’m not sure if any schools fit this description but if they have large 2023 and 2024 classes plus commitments from ‘25 and ‘26 that would put them over the roster limit of 18, will cuts have to be made/offers withdrawn? Texas has a projected 20 player roster next year.
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Post by haterade on Jul 24, 2024 14:19:56 GMT -5
Can roster maybe mean how many can be eligible to play in a match? i.e. You might have 20 bodies in the practice gym every day, but only 18 can be listed on the roster to play in the upcoming match. The next day the roster can be a different set of bodies. I feel like that would have been exploited by football and basketball programs in the 80s and 90s if possible. One would assume that the roster has to be set at a certain point in the pre season… otherwise USC would have had 80 people on the tennis team and the coach would be living in Brentwood
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Post by gazelle1 on Jul 24, 2024 14:23:47 GMT -5
Still only six players on the court at a time. This is just going to make the transfer portal crazier. I agree. Just look at Nebraska. Last year they had only 14 players on the roster, yet at the end of the year they had 3 non-starters enter the portal. Great players want to play, and if they are not seeing enough court time, they will move to somewhere they can see the court.
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Post by n00b on Jul 24, 2024 14:35:06 GMT -5
I’m not sure if any schools fit this description but if they have large 2023 and 2024 classes plus commitments from ‘25 and ‘26 that would put them over the roster limit of 18, will cuts have to be made/offers withdrawn? Texas has a projected 20 player roster next year. It’s not projected to be 20 anymore.
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Post by n00b on Jul 24, 2024 14:36:57 GMT -5
Can roster maybe mean how many can be eligible to play in a match? i.e. You might have 20 bodies in the practice gym every day, but only 18 can be listed on the roster to play in the upcoming match. The next day the roster can be a different set of bodies. I feel like that would have been exploited by football and basketball programs in the 80s and 90s if possible. One would assume that the roster has to be set at a certain point in the pre season… otherwise USC would have had 80 people on the tennis team and the coach would be living in Brentwood A corollary to this question… male practice players are included in EADA reports because from a compliance standpoint, they are on the roster despite being ineligible to compete. Will they count towards the roster cap?
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Post by Not Me on Jul 24, 2024 14:38:32 GMT -5
This is a complete change. Forget the old thought process and terminology.
Scholarship limits became meaningless with NIL and the NCAA was aware of that.
The 18 player roster will be fixed number. They don’t care how those kids get their scholarship paid for, or even if they have a scholarship.
Those kids that walked on but never played and were the 19th or 20th player on the team are now a practice player only, or they go somewhere else.
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Post by skolgophers on Jul 24, 2024 14:40:21 GMT -5
Texas has a projected 20 player roster next year. It’s not projected to be 20 anymore. The volleytalk gods knew we were bored so they had to give us something to talk about. Who isn’t projected to be on the roster next year?
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Post by jwvolley on Jul 24, 2024 14:41:37 GMT -5
It’s not projected to be 20 anymore. The volleytalk gods knew we were bored so they had to give us something to talk about. Who isn’t projected to be on the roster next year? He just means that no team that expected to have over 18 players on the roster will be able to once this change takes effect.
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Post by cardinalvolleyball on Jul 24, 2024 14:44:14 GMT -5
“Not me” hits the nail on the head. This is a strict roster size of 18. Also changes sport from head count to equivalency. Will be interesting to see how schools implement this
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