Blaze
Sophomore
Rooting for maximum chaos!
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Post by Blaze on Oct 17, 2024 21:58:44 GMT -5
I was coming here to see if this was being discussed or not. Tough, tough weekend for the Buckeye faithful. We've all accepted that this season is over and this team isn't going to be wining many more games. All that's left for this season is enjoying what is left of Londot and Rader and watching Sellman grow into her role of future Londot. Sellman is a big get for the program. I'm a huge fan. OSU needs to build around her. |
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Post by cbusvball on Oct 18, 2024 0:16:26 GMT -5
Anyone know if Tuman is hurt or just not playing? Looks like she hasn't played since early in Indiana game. Benched |
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Post by hangonsloopy on Oct 18, 2024 22:12:31 GMT -5
Someone stop the pain….
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Post by cbusvball on Oct 18, 2024 22:49:03 GMT -5
Losing sucked, but at least they were competitive and fun. This isn't even close to the performances from the Indiana or Michigan match, where I just wanted it to be over at some point. |
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Post by mnsports255 on Oct 19, 2024 16:05:35 GMT -5
Well, the good news coming out of this weekend (and maybe the best news all season) is that Sellman gave a glimpse of star potential with continued development. She must continue to improve her all around game but she looks like someone you can build a program around. Think there is some potential in Brandewie for some good positive output as an upperclassmen too.
The bad news: The setters on the roster are not good… and this might be the worst blocking team in the conference. The blocking woes aren’t a new thing this season either.
Gotta portal in a starting level middle, setter and pin hitter this offseason. And maybe a L/DS.
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Post by hangonsloopy on Oct 19, 2024 17:42:28 GMT -5
Well, the good news coming out of this weekend (and maybe the best news all season) is that Sellman gave a glimpse of star potential with continued development. She must continue to improve her all around game but she looks like someone you can build a program around. Think there is some potential in Brandewie for some good positive output as an upperclassmen too. The bad news: The setters on the roster are not good… and this might be the worst blocking team in the conference. The blocking woes aren’t a new thing this season either. Gotta portal in a starting level middle, setter and pin hitter this offseason. And maybe a L/DS. So just portal in a brand new team? Got it |
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Post by mnsports255 on Oct 19, 2024 17:45:19 GMT -5
Well, the good news coming out of this weekend (and maybe the best news all season) is that Sellman gave a glimpse of star potential with continued development. She must continue to improve her all around game but she looks like someone you can build a program around. Think there is some potential in Brandewie for some good positive output as an upperclassmen too. The bad news: The setters on the roster are not good… and this might be the worst blocking team in the conference. The blocking woes aren’t a new thing this season either. Gotta portal in a starting level middle, setter and pin hitter this offseason. And maybe a L/DS. So just portal in a brand new team? Got it If they want to win bad enough, yes. Adding 3-4 portal players in an offseason isn’t out of the ordinary at all in the current environment. |
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Post by Timeless on Oct 19, 2024 23:53:39 GMT -5
ohio state stick to football or the last resort men's vball bc this aint it chief.
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Post by gazelle1 on Oct 20, 2024 1:33:14 GMT -5
Well, the good news coming out of this weekend (and maybe the best news all season) is that Sellman gave a glimpse of star potential with continued development. She must continue to improve her all around game but she looks like someone you can build a program around. Think there is some potential in Brandewie for some good positive output as an upperclassmen too. The bad news: The setters on the roster are not good… and this might be the worst blocking team in the conference. The blocking woes aren’t a new thing this season either. Gotta portal in a starting level middle, setter and pin hitter this offseason. And maybe a L/DS. So just portal in a brand new team? Got it That is essentially what Sam Erger did at SMU. It is possible to build a good team quickly in this manner, but I don't think it is a viable long-term strategy to build a successful program. |
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Post by mnsports255 on Oct 20, 2024 12:00:55 GMT -5
So just portal in a brand new team? Got it That is essentially what Sam Erger did at SMU. It is possible to build a good team quickly in this manner, but I don't think it is a viable long-term strategy to build a successful program. Yep, the notion OP made that it’s wild to bring in 3-4 transfers during a period of transition to optimize odds of success is silly. Penn State did it and they’re in a plenty good spot as a program. Hannah, Mruzik, Mendelson, Jurevicius all in the past 2 offseasons. Trammel the year before. Of course, they have recruited solidly as well. Nebraska brought in Blackwell, Landfair, Beason in the past 2 off seasons. Texas Wenaas, Carlson, Rutherford, Lauenstein. Minnesota with Grote, Awoleye, Murr, Acevedo, Thibault in the past 2 seasons. Plenty of other examples within the top 30 or so programs. |
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Post by coachdavid on Oct 20, 2024 12:11:10 GMT -5
That is essentially what Sam Erger did at SMU. It is possible to build a good team quickly in this manner, but I don't think it is a viable long-term strategy to build a successful program. Yep, the notion OP made that it’s wild to bring in 3-4 transfers during a period of transition to optimize odds of success is silly. Penn State did it and they’re in a plenty good spot as a program. Hannah, Mruzik, Mendelson, Jurevicius all in the past 2 offseasons. Trammel the year before. Of course, they have recruited solidly as well. Nebraska brought in Blackwell, Landfair, Beason in the past 2 off seasons. Texas Wenaas, Carlson, Rutherford, Lauenstein. Minnesota with Grote, Awoleye, Murr, Acevedo, Thibault in the past 2 seasons. Plenty of other examples within the top 30 or so programs. Yeah, but they all did it when covid 5th years were prevalent. There will be a dearth of grad transfers this offseason, and JFO might be too ethical to tamper recruit. |
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Post by hangonsloopy on Oct 20, 2024 15:32:37 GMT -5
That is essentially what Sam Erger did at SMU. It is possible to build a good team quickly in this manner, but I don't think it is a viable long-term strategy to build a successful program. Yep, the notion OP made that it’s wild to bring in 3-4 transfers during a period of transition to optimize odds of success is silly. Penn State did it and they’re in a plenty good spot as a program. Hannah, Mruzik, Mendelson, Jurevicius all in the past 2 offseasons. Trammel the year before. Of course, they have recruited solidly as well. Nebraska brought in Blackwell, Landfair, Beason in the past 2 off seasons. Texas Wenaas, Carlson, Rutherford, Lauenstein. Minnesota with Grote, Awoleye, Murr, Acevedo, Thibault in the past 2 seasons. Plenty of other examples within the top 30 or so programs. It’s not silly when we’re talking about a program that let its most decorated class grad transfer elsewhere because they didn’t have scholarships to allocate for them. There are other incoming recruits that will have scholarships and JFO has made it clear in an interview before that this isn’t the football program where you just phone up a booster to cover 3-4 scholarships. So it’s not as simple as oh we’re just going to get a bunch of new players from the portal like you’re making it out to be. Not at Ohio State at least. |
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Post by 4theloveofvb on Oct 20, 2024 15:59:03 GMT -5
OSU is playing within the same framework as 98% of the programs they compete directly with. From a results standpoint, they are not doing a very good job. In my opinion, they've done a very poor job evaluating and developing talent, especially at the setter and ball control positions.
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Post by mnsports255 on Oct 20, 2024 19:22:50 GMT -5
Yep, the notion OP made that it’s wild to bring in 3-4 transfers during a period of transition to optimize odds of success is silly. Penn State did it and they’re in a plenty good spot as a program. Hannah, Mruzik, Mendelson, Jurevicius all in the past 2 offseasons. Trammel the year before. Of course, they have recruited solidly as well. Nebraska brought in Blackwell, Landfair, Beason in the past 2 off seasons. Texas Wenaas, Carlson, Rutherford, Lauenstein. Minnesota with Grote, Awoleye, Murr, Acevedo, Thibault in the past 2 seasons. Plenty of other examples within the top 30 or so programs. Yeah, but they all did it when covid 5th years were prevalent. There will be a dearth of grad transfers this offseason, and JFO might be too ethical to tamper recruit. Nobody will ever question Oldenberg's character. She's an exceptional human and mentor for young athletes. That being said, manners and feelings management doesn't earn NCAA Tournament berths. That's just the reality of it. Depends how in danger she feels her job is and to what measures she'll go to to turn this around and keep her job safe. Sometimes tough conversations need to be had. |
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Post by mnsports255 on Oct 20, 2024 19:31:02 GMT -5
Yep, the notion OP made that it’s wild to bring in 3-4 transfers during a period of transition to optimize odds of success is silly. Penn State did it and they’re in a plenty good spot as a program. Hannah, Mruzik, Mendelson, Jurevicius all in the past 2 offseasons. Trammel the year before. Of course, they have recruited solidly as well. Nebraska brought in Blackwell, Landfair, Beason in the past 2 off seasons. Texas Wenaas, Carlson, Rutherford, Lauenstein. Minnesota with Grote, Awoleye, Murr, Acevedo, Thibault in the past 2 seasons. Plenty of other examples within the top 30 or so programs. It’s not silly when we’re talking about a program that let it’s most decorated class grad transfer elsewhere because they didn’t have scholarships to allocate for them. There are other incoming recruits that will have scholarships and JFO has made it clear in an interview before that this isn’t the football program where you just phone up a booster to cover 3-4 scholarships. So it’s not as simple as oh we’re just going to get a bunch of new players from the portal like you’re making it out to be. Not at Ohio State at least. You're 100% right in that this scenario probably doesn't happen. However it probably *should* happen if she is concerned about job status and getting back to the tourney in the next year or two before said changes would potentially get made by Ross Bjork. There's about 5-6 scholarships taken up right now by players that don't have a chance to be a strong contributors on a top 25 level program. That's a result of several years of misevaluation, lack of development, or relaxed standards on what type of player gets extended a scholarship offer. Also, I believe next year each program who is able to do so will be able to have up to 18 scholarship players on roster given the school has AD funding to do so. |
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