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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2006 22:54:51 GMT -5
Interim results of the 5 matches on Wed., Oct. 18 follow. This has gotten more complicated by the new inclusion of comparative results with the RKPI Ranking.
A) All four (Pablo, RichKern, AVCA, RKPI) head-to-head
Pablo: 3-0 RKPI 3-0 Rich Kern 1-2 AVCA 1-2
B. Pablo v. Rich Kern only
Pablo: 3-1 Rich Kern 2-2
C. Pablo v. AVCA only
Pablo: 3-0 AVCA: 1-2
D. Pablo v. RKPI only
Pablo: 4-1 RKPI: 4-1
E. RKPI v.Rich Kern only
RKPI: 4-0 Rich Kern: 2-2
F. RKPI v. AVCA:
RKPI 3-0 AVCA: 1-2
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Post by The Bofa on the Sofa on Oct 19, 2006 6:27:32 GMT -5
I wouldn't bother with a Pablo vs RKPI comparison, at least completely, because every match can be compared. That is going to make life ugly for you.
You might want to restrict it to only matches that make Pablo and/or RKPI top 25. If it were me, I wouldn't do anything at all with them, and just do the comparisons to the polls.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2006 10:40:31 GMT -5
I wouldn't bother with a Pablo vs RKPI comparison, at least completely, because every match can be compared. That is going to make life ugly for you. You might want to restrict it to only matches that make Pablo and/or RKPI top 25. If it were me, I wouldn't do anything at all with them, and just do the comparisons to the polls. It is actually quite easy and not time-consuming to compare Pablo and RKPI for each of the 25 matches in the contest each week and I think comparing the two with a wider range of teams/rankings will be interesting.
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Post by The Bofa on the Sofa on Oct 19, 2006 10:41:49 GMT -5
So are the AVCA/RK/Pablo comparisons based on all possible matches? Or just those in the pick the winners?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2006 10:49:04 GMT -5
So are the AVCA/RK/Pablo comparisons based on all possible matches? Or just those in the pick the winners? All the comparisons that are in this thread are based only on matches in the Pick-the-Winners contest. Otherwise there would have beeen many more matches to compare. I also thought that Gorf's intent in making comparisons retroactively was to restrict them to contest matches.
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Post by The Bofa on the Sofa on Oct 19, 2006 10:53:53 GMT -5
So are the AVCA/RK/Pablo comparisons based on all possible matches? Or just those in the pick the winners? All the comparisons that are in this thread are based only on matches in the Pick-the-Winners contest. Otherwise there would have beeen many more matches to compare. OK
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2006 12:24:25 GMT -5
Interim results of the 8 matches through Thursday, October 19:
A) All four (Pablo, RichKern, AVCA, RKPI) head-to-head
Pablo: 3-2 RKPI: 3-2 Rich Kern: 1-4 AVCA: 1-4
B. Pablo v. Rich Kern only
Pablo: 3-3 Rich Kern: 2-4
C. Pablo v. AVCA only
Pablo: 4-2 AVCA: 3-3
D. Pablo v. RKPI only
Pablo: 5-3 RKPI: 5-3
E. RKPI v.Rich Kern only
RKPI: 4-2 Rich Kern: 2-4
F. RKPI v. AVCA:
RKPI: 4-2 AVCA: 2-4
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2006 23:59:58 GMT -5
Interim results of the 13 matches through Friday, October 20:
A) All four (Pablo, RichKern, AVCA, RKPI) head-to-head
Pablo: 5-4 RKPI: 5-4 Rich Kern: 4-5 AVCA: 4-5
B. Pablo v. Rich Kern only
Pablo: 5-5 Rich Kern: 5-5
C. Pablo v. AVCA only
Pablo: 6-4 AVCA: 5-5
D. Pablo v. RKPI only
Pablo: 8-5 RKPI: 8-5
E. RKPI v.Rich Kern only
RKPI: 6-4 Rich Kern: 5-5
F. RKPI v. AVCA:
RKPI: 6-4 AVCA: 5-5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2006 17:50:20 GMT -5
All four rankings were bunched closely together this week. Pablo maintains its cumulative lead over Rich Kern and AVCA. When results have been tabulated for prior weeks for the RKPI, RKPI will be added to the Cumulative Results list.
A. CUMULATIVE RESULTS (5 weeks ending 10-22-06):
1. MATCHES WHERE PABLO, AVCA AND RICH KERN ARE ALL HEAD-TO-HEAD:
Pablo 66-25 Rich Kern 59-32 AVCA 58-33
2. PABLO HEAD-TO-HEAD WITH RICH KERN ONLY:
Pablo 68-29 Rich Kern 63-34
3. PABLO HEAD-TO-HEAD WITH AVCA ONLY:
Pablo 69-27 AVCA 60-36
B. MATCHES FOR WEEK ENDING 10-22-06 ONLY:
1. MATCHES WHERE PABLO, RKPI, AVCA AND RICH KERN ARE ALL HEAD-TO-HEAD:
Pablo 10-6 RKPI 10-6 Rich Kern 9-7 AVCA 9-7
2. PABLO HEAD-TO-HEAD WITH RICH KERN ONLY:
Pablo 10-7 Rich Kern 10-7
3. PABLO HEAD-TO-HEAD WITH AVCA ONLY:
Pablo 11-6 AVCA 10-7
4. PABLO HEAD-TO-HEAD WITH RKPI ONLY:
Pablo 18-7 RKPI 18-7
5. RKPI HEAD-TO-HEAD WITH RICH KERN ONLY:
RKPI 11-6 Rich Kern 10-7
6. RKPI HEAD-TO-HEAD WITH AVCA ONLY:
RKPI 11-6 AVCA 10-7
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2006 2:08:49 GMT -5
All four rankings were bunched closely together again this past week. Pablo maintains its cumulative lead over Rich Kern and AVCA. When results have been tabulated for prior weeks for the RKPI, RKPI will be added to the Cumulative Results list.
A. CUMULATIVE RESULTS (6 weeks ending 10-29-06):
1. MATCHES WHERE PABLO, AVCA AND RICH KERN ARE ALL HEAD-TO-HEAD:
Pablo 78-28 Rich Kern 72-34 AVCA 70-36
2. PABLO HEAD-TO-HEAD WITH RICH KERN ONLY:
Pablo 83-33 Rich Kern 79-37
3. PABLO HEAD-TO-HEAD WITH AVCA ONLY:
Pablo 81-30 AVCA 72-39
B. MATCHES FOR WEEK ENDING 10-29-06 ONLY:
1. MATCHES WHERE PABLO, RKPI, AVCA AND RICH KERN ARE ALL HEAD-TO-HEAD:
Pablo 12-3 RKPI 13-2 Rich Kern 13-2 AVCA 12-3
2. PABLO HEAD-TO-HEAD WITH RICH KERN ONLY:
Pablo 15-4 Rich Kern 16-3
3. PABLO HEAD-TO-HEAD WITH AVCA ONLY:
Pablo 12-3 AVCA 12-3
4. PABLO HEAD-TO-HEAD WITH RKPI ONLY (note that both Pablo and RKPI did less well (not over 50%) in calling the winners of matches where neither team was in the other Ratings' top 30 or so (meaning also that neither AVCA nor RKPI even called those matches):
Pablo 17-8 RKPI 17-8
5. RKPI HEAD-TO-HEAD WITH RICH KERN ONLY:
RKPI 14-5 Rich Kern 16-3
6. RKPI HEAD-TO-HEAD WITH AVCA ONLY:
RKPI 12-3 AVCA 12-3
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Post by The Bofa on the Sofa on Oct 31, 2006 7:49:21 GMT -5
All four rankings were bunched closely together again this past week. Pablo maintains its cumulative lead over Rich Kern and AVCA. When results have been tabulated for prior weeks for the RKPI, RKPI will be added to the Cumulative Results list. How's the progress on this front, fellas? Yeah, but those were the hard ones, man. What was the average Pablo difference in those matches? Overall, Pablo went 82% for the week, even after a dreadful Friday night.
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Post by Ye Olde Dawg on Oct 31, 2006 10:19:58 GMT -5
The Rich Kern poll did remarkably well last week. And when you think aout it, Pablo and RKPI went 10 - 2 for the matches after that rough start.
I think a goal of predicting is to hit at least 50% on the close matches, but there were what, 6 matches in the contest not covered by the polls? That's a small sample; going 2-4 can be attributed to chance.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2006 16:14:11 GMT -5
I have gone back over the data for weeks 5 (week ending September 24) through week 10 (week ending October 29) of the Pick-the-Winners contests to determine how the RKPI fared each week in comparison with Pablo and the Rich Kern and AVCA polls and to calculate the cumulative results so far. Because of the amount of space each weeks comparison takes, I will show each week in separate posts and include the cumulative results only with the week 10 (the most current) results.
Week 5 (week ending 9-24; based on 9-18 Pablo, RKPI, AVCA and Rich Kern Polls):
MATCHES FOR WEEK ENDING 9-24-06 ONLY:
1. MATCHES WHERE PABLO, RKPI, AVCA AND RICH KERN ARE ALL HEAD-TO-HEAD:
Pablo 12-5 RKPI 10-7 Rich Kern 14-3 AVCA 12-5
2. PABLO HEAD-TO-HEAD WITH RICH KERN ONLY:
Pablo 13-6 Rich Kern 15-4
3. PABLO HEAD-TO-HEAD WITH AVCA ONLY:
Pablo 13-5 AVCA 12-6
4. PABLO HEAD-TO-HEAD WITH RKPI ONLY:
Pablo 16-9 RKPI 17-8
5. RKPI HEAD-TO-HEAD WITH RICH KERN ONLY:
RKPI 13-6 Rich Kern 15-4
6. RKPI HEAD-TO-HEAD WITH AVCA ONLY:
RKPI 11-7 AVCA 12-6
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2006 16:20:31 GMT -5
I have gone back over the data for weeks 5 (week ending September 24) through week 10 (week ending October 29) of the Pick-the-Winners contests to determine how the RKPI fared each week in comparison with Pablo and the Rich Kern and AVCA polls and to calculate the cumulative results so far. Because of the amount of space each weeks comparison takes, I will show each week in separate posts and include the cumulative results only with the week 10 (the most current) results.
Week 6 (week ending 10-1; based on 9-25 Pablo, RKPI, AVCA and Rich Kern Polls):
MATCHES FOR WEEK ENDING 10-1-06 ONLY:
1. MATCHES WHERE PABLO, RKPI, AVCA AND RICH KERN ARE ALL HEAD-TO-HEAD:
Pablo 20-5 RKPI 18-7 Rich Kern 18-7 AVCA 17-8
2. PABLO HEAD-TO-HEAD WITH RICH KERN ONLY:
Pablo 20-5 Rich Kern 18-7
3. PABLO HEAD-TO-HEAD WITH AVCA ONLY:
Pablo 20-5 AVCA 17-8
4. PABLO HEAD-TO-HEAD WITH RKPI ONLY:
Pablo 20-5 RKPI 18-7
5. RKPI HEAD-TO-HEAD WITH RICH KERN ONLY:
RKPI 18-7 Rich Kern 18-7
6. RKPI HEAD-TO-HEAD WITH AVCA ONLY:
RKPI 18-7 AVCA 17-8
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2006 16:24:57 GMT -5
I have gone back over the data for weeks 5 (week ending September 24) through week 10 (week ending October 29) of the Pick-the-Winners contests to determine how the RKPI fared each week in comparison with Pablo and the Rich Kern and AVCA polls and to calculate the cumulative results so far. Because of the amount of space each weeks comparison takes, I will show each week in separate posts and include the cumulative results only with the week 10 (the most current) results.
Week 7 (week ending 10-8; based on 10-2 Pablo, RKPI, AVCA and Rich Kern Polls):
MATCHES FOR WEEK ENDING 10-8-06 ONLY:
1. MATCHES WHERE PABLO, RKPI, AVCA AND RICH KERN ARE ALL HEAD-TO-HEAD:
Pablo 12-4 RKPI 10-6 Rich Kern 11-5 AVCA 12-4
2. PABLO HEAD-TO-HEAD WITH RICH KERN ONLY:
Pablo 13-6 Rich Kern 13-6
3. PABLO HEAD-TO-HEAD WITH AVCA ONLY:
Pablo 12-5 AVCA 12-5
4. PABLO HEAD-TO-HEAD WITH RKPI ONLY:
Pablo 17-8 RKPI 14-11
5. RKPI HEAD-TO-HEAD WITH RICH KERN ONLY:
RKPI 11-8 Rich Kern 13-6
6. RKPI HEAD-TO-HEAD WITH AVCA ONLY:
RKPI 10-7 AVCA 12-5
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