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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2006 16:45:52 GMT -5
Purdue split with both Minnesota and Wisconsin last year...Purdue beat Wisconsin at Madison late in the year. The next few weeks will answer the questions in the "middle" group in the Big Ten as Purdue gets the shot at both Minnesota and Wisconsin a week from now! Ruffda will then be able to state his case or shut it! And what case is that? Man, there's some hostility out there today.
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Post by ultravision on Oct 2, 2006 16:47:29 GMT -5
And who the heck is bulldog3? He is not me. If that's what you're getting at. I just wanted to ruffle your feathers.
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Post by Gorf on Oct 2, 2006 17:13:21 GMT -5
Rank | Team | Conference | Points | Record | Prev. Rank | Diff. | Prev. Points | Diff. | | 1 | Nebraska | Big 12 | 1473 | 13-0 | 1 | 0 | 1480 | -7 | | 2 | Penn State | Big 10 | 1450 | 15-0 | 2 | 0 | 1453 | -3 | | 3 | UCLA | Pac 10 | 1391 | 17-0 | 3 | 0 | 1369 | 22 | | 4 | USC | Pac 10 | 1321 | 15-0 | 5 | 1 | 1241 | 80 | | 5 | Washington | Pac 10 | 1234 | 12-3 | 4 | -1 | 1331 | -97 | | 6 | Stanford | Pac 10 | 1210 | 12-2 | 6 | 0 | 1192 | 18 | | 7 | California | Pac 10 | 1142 | 14-1 | 7 | 0 | 1086 | 56 | | 8 | Florida | SEC | 1049 | 12-2 | 10 | 2 | 944 | 105 | | 9 | Purdue | Big 10 | 953 | 13-2 | 11 | 2 | 913 | 40 | | 10 | LSU | SEC | 910 | 14-1 | 12 | 2 | 798 | 112 | | 11 | Texas | Big 12 | 872 | 9-4 | 8 | -3 | 1052 | -180 | | 12 | Santa Clara | West Coast | 825 | 11-3 | 9 | -3 | 1041 | -216 | | 13 | Wisconsin | Big 10 | 778 | 12-2 | 14 | 1 | 711 | 67 | | 14 | Ohio State | Big 10 | 694 | 12-2 | 13 | -1 | 723 | -29 | | 15 | Hawaii | WAC | 641 | 9-4 | 15 | 0 | 603 | 38 | | 16 | Utah | Mountain West | 622 | 12-2 | 18 | 2 | 500 | 122 | | 17 | Missouri | Big 12 | 500 | 11-4 | 19 | 2 | 465 | 35 | | 18 | Tennessee | SEC | 487 | 13-3 | 17 | -1 | 546 | -59 | | 19 | BYU | Mountain West | 439 | 12-2 | 16 | -3 | 570 | -131 | | 20 | Cal Poly | Big West | 398 | 11-4 | 20 | 0 | 358 | 40 | | 21 | Ohio | Mid America | 306 | 12-3 | 21 | 0 | 332 | -26 | | 22 | San Diego | West Coast | 186 | 12-4 | 25 | 3 | 81 | 105 | | 23 | Pepperdine | West Coast | 182 | 6-6 | 23 | 0 | 156 | 26 | | 24 | Minnesota | Big 10 | 120 | 10-4 | 26 | 2 | 49 | 71 | | 25 | Oklahoma | Big 12 | 99 | 12-3 | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | | 26 | New Mexico State | WAC | 86 | 17-1 | 22 | -4 | 217 | -131 | | 27 | Duke | ACC | 31 | ? | 29 | 2 | 20 | 11 | | 28 | LBSU | Big West | 14 | ? | 28 | 0 | 26 | -12 | | 29 | San Francisco | West Coast | 13 | ? | 26 | -3 | 50 | -37 | | 30 | Sacramento State | Big Sky | 11 | ? | 32 | 2 | 7 | 4 | | 31 | St. Johns | Big East | 11 | ? | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | | 32 | Michigan | Big 10 | 10 | 13-4 | 24 | -8 | 129 | -119 | | 33 | Colorado | Big 12 | 9 | ? | 31 | -2 | 11 | -2 | | 34 | Loyola Marymount | West Coast | 7 | ? | 33 | -1 | 7 | 0 | | 35 | Saint Mary's | West Coast | 4 | ? | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | | 36 | Louisville | Big East | 3 | ? | 30 | -6 | 16 | -13 | | 37 | Illinois | Big 10 | 2 | ? | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Unlisted Points | 17 | | | | | | Total Points: | 19500 | | | | | | | | | | | Conference | Teams Ranked | Rank Diff. | Point Diff. | | | | | 1 | Pac 10 | 5 | 0 | 79 | | | | 2 | Big 12 | 5 | -3 | -154 | | | | 3 | Big 10 | 7 | -4 | 27 | | | | 4 | Big East | 2 | -6 | -13 | | | 5 | SEC | 3 | 3 | 158 | | | 6 | West Coast | 6 | -4 | -122 | | | 7 | Mountain West | 2 | -4 | -9 | | | 8 | Big West | 2 | 0 | 28 | | | 9 | WAC | 2 | -4 | -93 | | | 10 | Mid America | 1 | 0 | -26 | | | 11 | ACC | 1 | 2 | 11 | | | 12 | Missouri Valley | 0 | 0 | 0 | | | 13 | Big Sky | 1 | 2 | 4 | | | | Total Teams: | 37 | | | |
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Post by Gorf on Oct 2, 2006 17:15:23 GMT -5
Can Gorp or Ruffy help me locate some of the earlier posts in which Ruffy was critical of the AVCA poll when Minnesota was ranked higher than expected? I am having a difficult time finding any confirmation of this. How bad did Minnesota and Wisconsin beat up on Ohio State and Purdue last season? There is a VT search function. Good luck.
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Post by cougvb on Oct 2, 2006 19:25:47 GMT -5
Waiting to hear how serious Erica Lott's injury is. I hear she is scheduled for an MRI on her back. If she is out for long, BYU could be slipping further in the polls. She has had a monster season since switching to OPP.
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Post by oukaes on Oct 2, 2006 20:47:31 GMT -5
Its great that my team OU is ranked...first time in 18 years....but with all of the maybe hoopla surrounding I guess the politics of the poll...who cares....besides there is sooo much volleyball to be played...and then the drama dealing with the polls about who is ranked and why they are ranked so high and so low will END....no wait a minute..thats when the drama of the attrocities of the tournament pairings will start
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Post by JT on Oct 2, 2006 22:39:54 GMT -5
But to answer his question, he is right: all I care about is the Gophers. I am nothing more than a homer. Alas. Darnitall, (R)uffda, that's my job!!! Get back to your end court, and your stats sheets, and leave my job to me!
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Post by Rus Socoli on Oct 2, 2006 23:03:54 GMT -5
Wow, people are ganging up on Ruff, the most hilarious man on VT.
I would love to watch a pistol duel, but why at dawn?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2006 23:06:25 GMT -5
Because Dawn has not been nice to me.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Oct 2, 2006 23:09:58 GMT -5
UCLA deserves to be number 1 but I know how the AVCA poll works. I said the Bruins were a different team this year. Are you convinced yet (R)uff?
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Post by Alberta on Oct 2, 2006 23:21:10 GMT -5
I'm too lazy to look this up plus I have a headache from arguing with the lunatics......
Question: How many total conferences are there?
Comment/Question: The SEC is the 5th ranked conference? Five years ago, what would they have been?
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Post by Keystonekid on Oct 3, 2006 7:17:18 GMT -5
Ruffda, the poll has kinda proven you wrong in some ways. As I said earlier, if Minnesota takes care of business they will work their way back into the poll, you stated based on how the voters operate that would not be the case, unless their were tons of losses in the top 25. It only took your Gophers two weeks to get back. I guess what i'm trying to say is "I told you so" I can't believe I had more faith in the Gophers than you did, these are troubling times.
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Post by bulldog3 on Oct 3, 2006 7:53:58 GMT -5
I agree with Keystone. I love Ruffda and in a way, he is volleytalk. However, he has badly over-reacted to the suspensions of the two Minnesota ball-control players. In reality, it is what it is. Minnesota has every chance to work their way back to the top ten in the next two weekends. If they are as good as Ruffda hopes, the Gophers will finish 4-0 or 3-1 over the next four matches. 4-0 will place the Gophers in the top 8 and a 3-1 slate will put them in the top 12. Not bad for a team that dropped several matches already this season - regardless of the excuses. I believe Wisconsin appears to be playing the second best ball in the league. After that, I look at Purdue and Minnesota as pretty even right now. I am concerned about the musical chairs game being played with the outside hitters for Minnesota and wonder what has happened to Bowman's numbers. Purdue has won some squeakers and that is bothersome, but they are winning - with the exception of Fawcett and Co. Much will be determined in the next two weeks. I am also eager to see who surfaces between Illinois, MSU, Michigan, and Northwestern.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2006 9:21:04 GMT -5
Ruffda, the poll has kinda proven you wrong in some ways. As I said earlier, if Minnesota takes care of business they will work their way back into the poll, you stated based on how the voters operate that would not be the case, unless their were tons of losses in the top 25. It only took your Gophers two weeks to get back. I guess what i'm trying to say is "I told you so" I can't believe I had more faith in the Gophers than you did, these are troubling times. Actually, that's NOT what I said. I said top 20. It also applies to a top 16 seed. It's made even more difficult by the fact they will be punished for any misstep in the Big10. And it has nothing to do with faith. It has to do with the hole dug for them by the NCAA. It was not and is still not fair. I will stop talking about it when people stop misquoting me.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2006 9:29:30 GMT -5
I agree with Keystone. I love Ruffda and in a way, he is volleytalk. However, he has badly over-reacted to the suspensions of the two Minnesota ball-control players. In reality, it is what it is. Minnesota has every chance to work their way back to the top ten in the next two weekends. See response above. "Hopes" is the right word. I'm glad you aren't saying "claims." Because I have no idea. The team has a lot of potential. Unfortunately, that potential cuts both ways. In the AVCA poll? No way. Even if they beat PSU they would not move to top 12-- too many teams in their way. Maybe you mean NCAA seeds? I don't know about that either (and, yes, it's way too early). Agree with all of this. The "musical chairs" at OH, however, is really only Cumpston and Vatterrodt and I don't see it as a problem, as long as KV doesn't lose her confidence. But if she does, there are bigger problems involved there. I just don't want anyone to think I am badmouthing Purdue, because I absolutely am not. I have them at #10 in my Kern ballot (and the Badgers at #9). It is not true that I have the Gophers at #1, although I do have them at #18 and OSU at #20. I have also struggled with the suspensions. I decided to treat them like injuries -- and depth is part of what determines how good a team is. Therefore, I smacked the Gophers for the TAMU and Louisville losses. More info than anyone wanted, I'm sure.
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