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Post by hwy101 on Oct 12, 2006 11:56:24 GMT -5
I will admit that I spend very little time thinking about or watching international volleyball, so this may be a stupid question: If I remember correctly (and I may not) you only get 6 substitutions in international rules. With that limitted number of substitutions, don't you have to have all-around outsides that can hit with power, block AND play back-row? If that premise is correct, then there are few (if any) NCAA players that fit that pattern better than Christal Morrison. You are correct but it doesn't necessarily mean that Morrison is the answer! Right out of college, she has a long way to go to be an OH in the international scene. She needs to get started by playing in a pro league.
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Post by GatorVball on Oct 12, 2006 12:01:14 GMT -5
What is Melissa Elmer up to these days?
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Post by VBCOACH on Oct 12, 2006 12:34:05 GMT -5
What do they do about Fawcett's ball control? Fawcetts ball control (both passing and defense) isn't bad at all. The big difference between Fawcett and, say, Nanami, is that Fawcett has good technique, learned at an early age. Apparently, no one in club ball even attempted to teach Nanami back-court skills. (Like learning a foreign language, ball control skills are best learned while young.) Since Fawcett already has sound technique, she just needs reps and additional coaching to be a good back-row player. Good enough to be a primary passer at the international level? I don't know. As for why she doesn't play back row at Penn State, well, she did last year. It's probably just easier for Russ to Sub her out.
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Post by VBCOACH on Oct 12, 2006 12:35:13 GMT -5
What is Melissa Elmer up to these days? Burned out.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2006 12:36:36 GMT -5
No she didn't. At least, not for any appreciable amount of time.
And that still leaves the question: Why isn't she playing backrow at PSU?
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Post by foreignball on Oct 12, 2006 12:40:17 GMT -5
If I remember correctly (and I may not) you only get 6 substitutions in international rules. With that limitted number of substitutions, don't you have to have all-around outsides that can hit with power, block AND play back-row? This is absolutely correct. An example from the US game vs POL that took place this past spring in Chicago: US started with Dekiewiet and Wilkins at OH. Any time when Wilkins was BR they were having issues with reception and also with LS attacking since Dekiewiet is more a DS type of player, not an attacking one. Later in the game they used Van Meter, which helped some at the net but the BR problems got even worse. The only time of each set when the game was competitive was after the 20th point because JLP used a DS (Davis) to solidify the reception and the defense, however at that time POL had a huge lead that couldn’t be recovered.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2006 12:44:17 GMT -5
Not just 6 subs, but only one re-entry. IOW, you can sub a player in, but when she comes out, she's out.
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Post by brybry on Oct 12, 2006 13:36:55 GMT -5
Women's international volleyball displays a ton more skills (including passing and defense) than NCAA ball. The passes are usually perfect. It's a really wonderful game. Keystonekid, you need to check out some of the top teams like Brazil, Italy, Russia and China play. The men's game definitely looks like it's all about jump serving, hitting and blocking. The top teams usually pass on a dime (so the skill level is still there). As a result of the passing, they usually terminate at a very high efficiency (which can make for a boring game).
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Post by gstring on Oct 12, 2006 16:53:11 GMT -5
Bottom line US will never be a power in volleyball unless girls are training year round living in a compound eating drinking and sleeping volleyball...then maybe we can start having all round players or outside hitters that are not a liability in the backrow...I miss the days of Tom and willoughby...two of the most complete outside hitters to have played in the NCAA
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Post by GatorVball on Oct 12, 2006 16:59:56 GMT -5
What is Melissa Elmer up to these days? Burned out. That's too bad, cause she was as good a middle blocker as I've seen in the last 10 years, esp. blocking.
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Post by Keystonekid on Oct 12, 2006 20:08:15 GMT -5
Harmotto can get overlooked by Fawcett and Hodge sometimes, but she is hitting .480 with 1.6 blocks per game. She has size, great quickness and is very competitive. She could wear the red,white and blue as well.
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Post by MarsH on Oct 12, 2006 21:32:51 GMT -5
That's too bad, cause she was as good a middle blocker as I've seen in the last 10 years, esp. blocking. wait up. last I heard, Melissa Elmer recently had negotiations to play for Spar Tenerife Marichal (Demir and Tom's Spanish team) but Dynamo Moscow blocked the transfer. i take it, they want her services in Russia this season.
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Post by Murina on Oct 12, 2006 21:57:28 GMT -5
You are correct but it doesn't necessarily mean that Morrison is the answer! Right out of college, she has a long way to go to be an OH in the international scene. She needs to get started by playing in a pro league. The same can be said of every single player in this thread. I don't think the USA needs a compound. They just need to restrict subs in junior and college volleyball to force the best all around players to play all the time.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2006 22:19:39 GMT -5
Still disagree. It's not the JO's or NCAA's responsibility to provide international players for the USA. Restricting subs will mean fewer kids get to play and the quality of play will also suffer.
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Post by USAFAN on Oct 12, 2006 22:29:18 GMT -5
Ruffda, I am not going to say your stupid (mostly cause your not) but you honestly don't know why Fawcett would be better suited over Morrsion Internationally? Morrison is a very good player, but could not compete at the net at that level. Fawcett is a big time player offensively, if you saw her in Colorado Springs this summer with our national team against Metcalf and the other international stars, she fit in more than nicely. International volleyball has gone nearly all leftside attack. Morrison vs an international block, just could not kill balls, Fawcett could. I think the days of the all around outside hitter are all but over, sad to say. If you watch international volleyball, it is not very pleasing aesthetically for this reason. It's tee it up, bang. Tee it up bang, pretty well describes Fawcett and not Morrison. I don't know what international volleyball you've been watching but the top two teams right now (China and Brazil) do a lot more than just tee up and bang on the leftside.
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