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Post by blastingsand on Nov 21, 2006 20:41:39 GMT -5
Nebraska has been eliminated in the National Final, National SemiFinal, or National Semi-Semifinal (aka Regional Final)... yes. Let's just conveniently forget about the Pac10 teams that never make it that far due to teams from the Big10, Big12, SEC, and WCC. I'd say the fact that Nebraska swept UCLA and a mediocre program like Santa Clara eliminated both Stanford and Arizona, Pepperdine eliminated USC, and Wisconsin defeated Cal, means that at least part of history is against the Pac10. No Pac10 team played another Pac10 team at any time, but out of six teams given berths, only one made it to the Final Four. I'd say last year was a down year for the Pac10. Washington was the one mostly with the experience (having so many seniors) while the other teams (Other than 3 of zonas') had very young players. This year, the Pac 10 teams should be a LOT better.
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Post by GatorVball on Nov 21, 2006 20:57:02 GMT -5
That would be a first for Nebraska, as they've never won a regional held outside their state. If Nebraska is the overall #1, I can't see them heading to Gainesville, cause Florida at worst should be the #7 overall seed, unless they lose this weekend. I see Florida as the 8th overall seed. "Biggest" win is over Utah at #9 currently. USC, UCLA, Penn State & Texas have a higher RPI and should hold. I guess we'll all find out soon enough on Sunday. Might want to check again, Florida's RKPI is ahead of Texas. Plus, 2 teams ahead of Florida, Minnesota and Wisconsin, won't be seeded ahead of Florida. Florida is at worst #7 overal, because Washington is so low in the RKPI, but likely to be seeded much higher, esp. if they win the Pac10. I still see Penn State sent to Gainesville.
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Post by Tex_VB_Fan on Nov 21, 2006 21:01:22 GMT -5
Pick your poison GatorVball. Nebraska or PSU, either way I don't see Florida coming out of that region.
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Post by blastingsand on Nov 21, 2006 21:02:23 GMT -5
How come Washington is very low in the RKPI? Are both UCLA and Penn State likely to be sent to the same regional? since they are #4 and #5 right now?
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Post by Gorf on Nov 21, 2006 21:21:26 GMT -5
Can Penn State and Nebraska beat the PAC 10? Yes! I can see Nebraska coming out of the Florida regional and headed back HOME for the F4. Once at Omaha they should be the favorite no matter what other three teams complete the field. At this point I see Nebraska as the overall #1 seed heading to Gainesville. That would be a first for Nebraska, as they've never won a regional held outside their state. If Nebraska is the overall #1, I can't see them heading to Gainesville, cause Florida at worst should be the #7 overall seed, unless they lose this weekend. The committee seeds teems to fit their desired matchups since they started pre-selecting regional sites. In 2004 they seeded Washington #8 but treated them as the #1 seed they truly were by allowing them to host sub-regionals and regionals.
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Post by GatorVball on Nov 21, 2006 21:21:43 GMT -5
Pick your poison GatorVball. Nebraska or PSU, either way I don't see Florida coming out of that region. I guess we'll wait and see. I don't care who gets sent there, I like Florida's chances at home against anyone. Esp. if that team has a freshman setter. All I'm saying is if Nebraska is the #1 overall seed, then I can't see them coming to Gainesville because it wouldn't be right to seed Florida that low.
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Post by GatorVball on Nov 21, 2006 21:23:30 GMT -5
How come Washington is very low in the RKPI? Are both UCLA and Penn State likely to be sent to the same regional? since they are #4 and #5 right now? I guess it's UW's out of conference schedule that is holding them back. But everyone knows they are one of the top teams and will be seeded as such.
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Post by Gorf on Nov 21, 2006 21:26:28 GMT -5
mmm I dont remember UW being beat by teams outside of the pac 10 last year ....... lol Stanford got beat by Santa Clara on their home floor ... Whoops, I forgot they lost Barboza and Kehoe couldn't set due to an arm injury. At that time Stanford was still ranked #5 in the AVCA poll, and they'd had some time to get used to new lineups. Penn State lost at home to Tennessee after their own injury something like the week prior to the loss to the Vols. Still, all-in-all: - Both knew they had to play with the players that were available. - Both were ranked higher than their opponents. - Both had very disappointing losses (at least from the perspective of themselves and their fans. I image Tennessee and Santa Clara and their fans weren't disappointed.
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Post by Gorf on Nov 21, 2006 21:34:28 GMT -5
Oh please, don't we ask this question at this time of year, every year? I say NOPE! PAC 10 teams always seem to take their games to another level in the post season. The PAC 10 matches I've seen on TV are much more exciting than the other conferences. Nebraska will choke again! Always? Only 1 of the 6 Pac 10 teams last year managed t find another level - unless of course you meant a lower level. Of the several Pac 10 matches I've seen this season perhaps 1-2 of them were played at a level that was "exciting" the remaining matches there were a lot of unforced errors happening in every game of the matches. As others have said, this year there doesn't seem to be any teams that clearly stand out as being above the other highly ranked teams along the lines of how USC looked in 2003.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2006 21:44:54 GMT -5
I think Penn State and Nebraska would make a heckuva team. It could probably handle anyone from the Pac10.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Nov 21, 2006 23:24:52 GMT -5
Pick your poison GatorVball. Nebraska or PSU, either way I don't see Florida coming out of that region. I'd like the Gators chances against either team.
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Post by Ye Olde Dawg on Nov 22, 2006 3:46:53 GMT -5
How come Washington is very low in the RKPI? Are both UCLA and Penn State likely to be sent to the same regional? since they are #4 and #5 right now? I guess it's UW's out of conference schedule that is holding them back. But everyone knows they are one of the top teams and will be seeded as such. Bingo. But here's an interesting scenario. If Washington loses to Stanford, the selection committee could use their RPI to justify seeding them anywhere from 5th to maybe even 10th. They could end up hosting any of the top 4 seeds.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2006 9:59:25 GMT -5
I guess it's UW's out of conference schedule that is holding them back. But everyone knows they are one of the top teams and will be seeded as such. Bingo. But here's an interesting scenario. If Washington loses to Stanford, the selection committee could use their RPI to justify seeding them anywhere from 5th to maybe even 10th. They could end up hosting any of the top 4 seeds. If that happens(low seed) I think they'll send another Pac 10 team there like Stan, USC or UCLA .
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2006 10:05:28 GMT -5
Let's also remember the bit of history in regards to Nebraska on the road and the final four. If memory serves me correctly, losses ON THE ROAD preventing the final four over the past ten years have only been to California schools. 97-LBSU, 99-UCSB, 04-USC. At home, 94-PSU, 02-Hawaii, 03-UCLA.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Nov 22, 2006 11:32:16 GMT -5
Let's also remember the bit of history in regards to Nebraska on the road and the final four. If memory serves me correctly, losses ON THE ROAD preventing the final four over the past ten years have only been to California schools. 97-LBSU, 99-UCSB, 04-USC. At home, 94-PSU, 02-Hawaii, 03-UCLA. Hawai'i is not a California School.
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