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Post by m on Aug 6, 2011 14:06:34 GMT -5
It does seem though it was Elvis' stage presence and persona that influenced them rather than the songs, since I would think The Beatles could have easily found out that Elvis Presley rarely (if ever) wrote any of his songs he performed. The Beatles on the other hand, were not only musicians, but song writers as well. Wasn't one of their earlier incarnations just a cover band? More than likely. But that is pretty much a common thing for a group to play a lot or nothing but cover tunes in clubs before being signed to any label. Most of the times, these groups are performing at clubs where the owner wants them to perform current top 40 types of songs. There are exceptions of course, but very rare.
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Post by mikegarrison on Aug 6, 2011 18:51:33 GMT -5
Nirvana - I have a hard time with that one. Just because their trip was so short. What they did was a bit different at the time, but I think there were other bands that had similar sounds. They just made it to the top first. They were not just lucky lottery winners. Their influence on the genre is well-deserved. They were like an elemental force of nature coupled with some real skill and soul. Lots of groups just thrashed their guitars and banged their drums hoping to sound like Nirvana, but none of them did.
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Post by geddyleemarvin on Aug 6, 2011 19:30:54 GMT -5
Nirvana - I have a hard time with that one. Just because their trip was so short. What they did was a bit different at the time, but I think there were other bands that had similar sounds. They just made it to the top first. They were not just lucky lottery winners. Their influence on the genre is well-deserved. They were like an elemental force of nature coupled with some real skill and soul. Lots of groups just thrashed their guitars and banged their drums hoping to sound like Nirvana, but none of them did. Got to give props to Nirvana. "Nevermind" single-handedly changed the course of the music industry in 1991, altering the careers of dozens of bands (either boosting them or burying them). A friend of mine, Pat DiNizio, is the lead singer for The Smithereens, a really great garage-rock/power-pop band who had a number of songs on the charts in the 80's. He told me that after "Nevermind," labels told the Smithereens they weren't "grunge enough," and lost interest in promoting them.
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Post by mikegarrison on Aug 6, 2011 20:16:08 GMT -5
A friend of mine, Pat DiNizio, is the lead singer for The Smithereens, a really great garage-rock/power-pop band who had a number of songs on the charts in the 80's. He told me that after "Nevermind," labels told the Smithereens they weren't "grunge enough," and lost interest in promoting them. I saw them in concert, way back in the day. I think they were opening for Los Lobos.
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Post by m on Aug 6, 2011 21:06:36 GMT -5
The timing of Nirvana hitting the airwaves and on MTV was prefect. It was during a time when it seems like music lovers were getting tired of the hair bands and gangster rap music and everyone was just waiting for the next best sound to come along. And Nirvana had it. Even though Cobain died shortly after making a huge impact in the music industry, the group has made a significant mark in music history forever.
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Post by Phaedrus on Aug 6, 2011 21:24:24 GMT -5
A friend of mine, Pat DiNizio, is the lead singer for The Smithereens, a really great garage-rock/power-pop band who had a number of songs on the charts in the 80's. He told me that after "Nevermind," labels told the Smithereens they weren't "grunge enough," and lost interest in promoting them. Seriously? You're friends with Pat DiNizio? One of my favorites. I still crank up the volume on Blood and Roses. That bass line was simple but really addicting.
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Post by elevationvb on Aug 6, 2011 23:27:37 GMT -5
.............................The Beatles could have easily found out that Elvis Presley rarely (if ever) wrote any of his songs he performed. The Beatles on the other hand, were not only musicians, but song writers as well. Elvis and Sinatra...........Cultural Icons, but not song writers. 40+ years since the Beatles last recorded and they still are the most succesful and brilliant band that rock n roll has ever produced. Anyone list to Breakfast with the Beatles Sunday mornings on the Sirius Garage Band channel? A great 3 hours of the Beatles each Sunday.
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Post by elevationvb on Aug 6, 2011 23:29:22 GMT -5
They were not just lucky lottery winners. Their influence on the genre is well-deserved. They were like an elemental force of nature coupled with some real skill and soul. Lots of groups just thrashed their guitars and banged their drums hoping to sound like Nirvana, but none of them did. Got to give props to Nirvana. "Nevermind" single-handedly changed the course of the music industry in 1991, altering the careers of dozens of bands (either boosting them or burying them). A friend of mine, Pat DiNizio, is the lead singer for The Smithereens, a really great garage-rock/power-pop band who had a number of songs on the charts in the 80's. He told me that after "Nevermind," labels told the Smithereens they weren't "grunge enough," and lost interest in promoting them. Nirvana buried Hair Metal. BTW, Rage Against the Machine is one of the top bands from the 90's.
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Post by elevationvb on Aug 6, 2011 23:31:26 GMT -5
Nobody has yet mentioned Milli Vanilli. LMAO!!! ;D Good one! Milli Vanilli was ahead of their time! They were destroyed for not singing live. They would be right at home with many artists of today - - and revered??
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Post by elevationvb on Aug 6, 2011 23:37:53 GMT -5
I think Elvis's biggest contribution was actually putting a white face on black music, and thus making it visible to white people in the 50s. Elvis can be contrasted to Johnny Cash. Col. Parker led Elvis to massive success, but not the credible success of Johnny Cash. Cash did things his own way with many personal bumps in the road, but achieved much more artistic success.
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Post by mikegarrison on Aug 6, 2011 23:42:35 GMT -5
Milli Vanilli was ahead of their time! They were destroyed for not singing live. And lying about it. But you have a point -- how many artists these days use autotune?
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Post by m on Aug 6, 2011 23:43:11 GMT -5
Elvis and Sinatra...........Cultural Icons, but not song writers. 40+ years since the Beatles last recorded and they still are the most succesful and brilliant band that rock n roll has ever produced. Anyone list to Breakfast with the Beatles Sunday mornings on the Sirius Garage Band channel? A great 3 hours of the Beatles each Sunday. Is it a mixture of music by them and also interviews?
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Post by Phaedrus on Aug 6, 2011 23:45:24 GMT -5
Milli Vanilli was ahead of their time! They were destroyed for not singing live. And lying about it. But you have a point -- how many artists these days use autotune? Let's not forget the hair.
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Post by elevationvb on Aug 6, 2011 23:52:11 GMT -5
Anyone list to Breakfast with the Beatles Sunday mornings on the Sirius Garage Band channel? A great 3 hours of the Beatles each Sunday. Is it a mixture of music by them and also interviews? A different theme each week. Sometimes the focus is on an album, 1 Beatle , including solo career, etc. Mostly music but old interviews, etc. A great 3 hours. www.breakfastwiththebeatles.com/
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Post by m on Aug 6, 2011 23:53:43 GMT -5
Is it a mixture of music by them and also interviews? A different theme each week. Sometimes the focus is on an album, 1 Beatle , including solo career, etc. Mostly music but old interviews, etc. A great 3 hours. www.breakfastwiththebeatles.com/Thanks!
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