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Post by 5280volleyball on Dec 31, 2012 19:04:45 GMT -5
Kevincochran - not sure who you are but if you look at non conference schedules of FSU-UNC and Miami I think you will see that all scheduled pretty well non conference in 2011 and 2012 for the very reason you noted. To be in contention for a Top Ten team you have to beat top teams in the Big 10 and PAC 12... What conference do you favor? I think the Pac 12 is stronger at the top and the Big 10 is deeper. Both are excellent leagues. For the record, I throw out the NCAA matches when looking at schedule strength. All the teams in the tourney are pretty good outside of a few small conference auto qualifiers. But they deserve a spot. If you win your league or league tourney, you should get a shot to face the best. The Big East and ACC are both so so leagues in my mind. If they want to move up, they need to schedule and beat the USC/PSU/Nebraska/Stanford types of teams.
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Post by volleyvolleyfan on Jan 1, 2013 12:43:44 GMT -5
OK - so even if you throw out the NCAA matches - FSU still swept Florida,Tennessee and Houston . Beat Ohio State and Iowa State in 4 sets in non conference play in 2012. After that they won their 2nd consecutive ACC Championship during conference play and took Purdue to 5 sets in round 2 NCAA
It does take year in and year out top level play to be considered among the elite of teams .. FSU will continue to shoot for that Top Ten ranking in 2013
i would not put the ACC on the same level as the Big East .. They are a much stronger conference than that.. More On par with the SEC and like the SEC still trying to improve...
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Post by 5280volleyball on Jan 1, 2013 16:24:44 GMT -5
I could almost buy the SEC/ACC being even. Both leagues have a couple very solid teams then it rolls downhill. Outside of Texas A&M and Arkansas, the SEC west is bad. The east is a lot deeper with Florida, Tennessee, Kentucky, and Missouri.
If I had to rate them, I'd say SEC, ACC, Big East.
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Post by volleyvolleyfan on May 3, 2013 15:36:50 GMT -5
Is it August yet ?? Looking forward to the Indoor season. Coach Poole has scheduled strong pre-conference matches... looking at tourney matches in August-Sep before ACC Conference play vs. Michigan, Ohio State, Long Beach, Florida, Western Kentucky and I think Iowa State among others.
How about other pre season schedules within ACC ?
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Post by mpr2477 on May 5, 2013 12:00:36 GMT -5
I cant believe you are all overlooking Duke! UNC, FSU and Miami are all going to be good, but I think Duke might steal the ACC title. They have a great coach, have always been at the top of the league (except for an unfortunate last year), have the best libero in the league, have some great OHs (Obeime, Sklar, Campbell, Atkinson) and are getting a great freshman MB to go along with a vast improved Chelsea Cook. Only position that could be shaky is setter. If one of the 3 can step up, they should be solid, and compete for the ACC title again. PLUS, they just beat UNC in their spring matches. So yeah....hush you unc fans. you're not that great.
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Post by trianglevolleyball on May 5, 2013 13:14:34 GMT -5
I cant believe you are all overlooking Duke! UNC, FSU and Miami are all going to be good, but I think Duke might steal the ACC title. They have a great coach, have always been at the top of the league (except for an unfortunate last year), have the best libero in the league, have some great OHs (Obeime, Sklar, Campbell, Atkinson) and are getting a great freshman MB to go along with a vast improved Chelsea Cook. Only position that could be shaky is setter. If one of the 3 can step up, they should be solid, and compete for the ACC title again. PLUS, they just beat UNC in their spring matches. So yeah....hush you unc fans. you're not that great. There is no reason that any of those outside hitters should be any more effective than last year, if there is no new setter than Duke will struggle once again. That position was so inconsistent last year that you could see all three setters set a 5-1 in the same set. The only setter that didn't frequently double contact, Williams, couldn't jump at all and was hit over by even the worst outside hitters in the conference. Duke does have the skilled hitters to pull off an upset occasionally (NC State, Georgia Tech, almost Miami), but without a replacement for Kellie Catanach they will also continue to lose on nights when none of the setters is playing well (Wake Forest TWICE!!!). Also, remember that spring games don't really mean anything, as UNC was playing girls that didn't see any time during last season and Duke used one middle for both front row rotations.
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Post by mpr2477 on May 5, 2013 20:17:03 GMT -5
Well I politely disagree. The Duke OHs will only have gotten better, since they are now used to the college. The freshman MB Whitaker will join the team soon, and will be quite good, add in Cook's blocking skills and they'll be solid there. Plus, Vucich's doesn't need to jump, she's 6'4. I think her upside is huge and will end up being Duke's setter. Plus, UNC loses two OH's AND their starting setter. I think it'll be a 4 way race (Duke, FSU, UNC and Miami)
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Post by trianglevolleyball on May 5, 2013 20:54:31 GMT -5
Well I politely disagree. The Duke OHs will only have gotten better, since they are now used to the college. The freshman MB Whitaker will join the team soon, and will be quite good, add in Cook's blocking skills and they'll be solid there. Plus, Vucich's doesn't need to jump, she's 6'4. I think her upside is huge and will end up being Duke's setter. Plus, UNC loses two OH's AND their starting setter. I think it'll be a 4 way race (Duke, FSU, UNC and Miami) Have you seen Vucich set??? Probably not, since she hits it over on two half the time she acts as the setter and mangles the set the other half of the time. In fact, she was playing more at right side than setter during the spring games, and that's the only place where she is capable of playing. I don't know anything about Whitaker, and the three-person recruiting class looks incredibly weak in comparison to previous years. And I have to correct you by saying that only one of the six playing UNC hitters graduated and one of the two setters. With their recruits they are in a better place this year than last. But even with that said, the two Florida teams are just too strong and I see the ACC being a two-team race this year. I'd prefer that UNC, Duke or NC State win, but none of the three teams have an all-ACC quality setter, so I don't see any of them beating FSU twice this season.
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Post by chisovnik on May 5, 2013 21:19:48 GMT -5
I cant believe you are all overlooking Duke! UNC, FSU and Miami are all going to be good, but I think Duke might steal the ACC title. They have a great coach, have always been at the top of the league (except for an unfortunate last year), have the best libero in the league, have some great OHs (Obeime, Sklar, Campbell, Atkinson) and are getting a great freshman MB to go along with a vast improved Chelsea Cook. Only position that could be shaky is setter. If one of the 3 can step up, they should be solid, and compete for the ACC title again. PLUS, they just beat UNC in their spring matches. So yeah....hush you unc fans. you're not that great. Saw them play once last season and they were not very good, which is sad to see. They have more talent than anyone in the ACC but aren't doing much with it.
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Post by volleyvolleyfan on May 6, 2013 11:53:55 GMT -5
Is it August yet ?? Looking forward to the Indoor season. Coach Poole has scheduled strong pre-conference matches... looking at tourney matches in August-Sep before ACC Conference play vs. Michigan, Ohio State, Long Beach, Florida, Western Kentucky and I think Iowa State among others. How about other pre season schedules within ACC ? Add to this Illinois (Final 4 in 2011)and Texas A&M for FSU pre conference. Trying to find out what other ACC teams are committed too for pre conference tourneys? Anyone?
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Post by austintatious on May 6, 2013 18:33:52 GMT -5
If FSU is playing all those schools in pre-sseason they may have a very average record going in to conference but it may certainly be worth it to prepare them for post season. That is a very impressive schedule.
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Post by playhard on May 7, 2013 6:46:35 GMT -5
Where are you getting your information on Florida State's preseason schedule? There is nothing noted on their website.
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Post by bigdaddyw on May 7, 2013 6:58:09 GMT -5
Yes,very tough RPI building schedule. Michigan, Ohio State, Illinios, Florida, Texas A&M, Kentucky, Auburn, Western Kentucky, Long Beach , Sienna and FGCU. Will be brutal as they travel 5 of first 7 weeks. Going to them all as this is the last year my girls will be together. It goes so fast!
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Post by baywatcher on May 7, 2013 7:56:28 GMT -5
With that schedule, if FSU wins out they can may lay claim to three conference titles.
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Post by playhard on May 7, 2013 11:54:53 GMT -5
Just saw that OH Nicole Walch made the A2 team. Is she the only one from FSU who tried out who made it? Wickstrom? Burrington? Mosher? Green?
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