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Post by memorybankrupt on Jan 29, 2014 17:33:39 GMT -5
I believe that as long as Carlini is setting the Badgers, they will be a permanent fixture in the upper tier of the B1G. As long as Coach Sheffield is coaching, Wisconsin will be a regular fixture in the tourney. As far as being in the Final Four, so much depends on matchups and which teams are grouped together in a Regional. Certainly, Wisconsin will be looked at as a favorite to return to the Final Four next season. Agreed. That's why it's hard to predict who will be a final four team. Match ups are key. If wiscosnin faced a team like stanford this year in the sweet sixteen, I don't think they would of beat them. But had stanford faced anyone else besides penn state, I think they would of made it into the final four. That's why I feel the tournament isn't an accurate tool for deciding any other place but 1st Re: Stanford making it to the Final Four had they faced any team other than Penn State, that's bold statement. Texas, Washington, USC, and Nebraska would not roll over against the Cardinal. Teams get hot or cold. I thought Penn State played subpar in their regional but played really well in the Final Four. Texas played amazing in the Regional Final and then played pretty poorly in the Final Four. Would have been fun to see Penn State and Texas go at it again when they're both playing their best.
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Post by SportyBucky on Jan 29, 2014 20:46:12 GMT -5
I believe that as long as Carlini is setting the Badgers, they will be a permanent fixture in the upper tier of the B1G. As long as Coach Sheffield is coaching, Wisconsin will be a regular fixture in the tourney. As far as being in the Final Four, so much depends on matchups and which teams are grouped together in a Regional. Certainly, Wisconsin will be looked at as a favorite to return to the Final Four next season. Agreed. That's why it's hard to predict who will be a final four team. Match ups are key. If wiscosnin faced a team like stanford this year in the sweet sixteen, I don't think they would of beat them. But had stanford faced anyone else besides penn state, I think they would of made it into the final four. That's why I feel the tournament isn't an accurate tool for deciding any other place but 1st Um, they beat TX and almost beat Penn State. How do you figure??!?
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Post by SportyBucky on Jan 29, 2014 20:47:18 GMT -5
Agreed. That's why it's hard to predict who will be a final four team. Match ups are key. If wiscosnin faced a team like stanford this year in the sweet sixteen, I don't think they would of beat them. But had stanford faced anyone else besides penn state, I think they would of made it into the final four. That's why I feel the tournament isn't an accurate tool for deciding any other place but 1st Re: Stanford making it to the Final Four had they faced any team other than Penn State, that's bold statement. Texas, Washington, USC, and Nebraska would not roll over against the Cardinal. Teams get hot or cold. I thought Penn State played subpar in their regional but played really well in the Final Four. Texas played amazing in the Regional Final and then played pretty poorly in the Final Four. Would have been fun to see Penn State and Texas go at it again when they're both playing their best. WI had something to do with how poorly TX played…oh, and their sub par passing and setting.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Jan 29, 2014 21:07:09 GMT -5
Agreed. That's why it's hard to predict who will be a final four team. Match ups are key. If wiscosnin faced a team like stanford this year in the sweet sixteen, I don't think they would of beat them. But had stanford faced anyone else besides penn state, I think they would of made it into the final four. That's why I feel the tournament isn't an accurate tool for deciding any other place but 1st Um, they beat TX and almost beat Penn State. How do you figure??!? I said I don't think they would beat them. I never claimed stanford for 100 percent beat them. Wisconsin went four sets with penn state. Stanford went 5. Stanford swept was was arguably the third best team from the b1g going into the tournament. Wisconsin beat Texas, but Texas passing was horrible that match. Wiscosnin playes amazing and I don't doubt that, but like I said, had they played stanford I don't think the results would be the same.
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Post by C on Jan 29, 2014 21:24:51 GMT -5
Re: Stanford making it to the Final Four had they faced any team other than Penn State, that's bold statement. Texas, Washington, USC, and Nebraska would not roll over against the Cardinal. Teams get hot or cold. I thought Penn State played subpar in their regional but played really well in the Final Four. Texas played amazing in the Regional Final and then played pretty poorly in the Final Four. Would have been fun to see Penn State and Texas go at it again when they're both playing their best. WI had something to do with how poorly TX played…oh, and their sub par passing and setting. Texas had sub par passing and setting all year long and managed to make it to the Semi's. Wisconsin didn't win because "Texas played bad," they won because they played better than Texas. Texas swept Nebraska who beat Wisconsin twice that year. Don't belittle Wisconsin's win because you think Texas played poorly.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Jan 29, 2014 21:35:33 GMT -5
WI had something to do with how poorly TX played…oh, and their sub par passing and setting. Texas had sub par passing and setting all year long and managed to make it to the Semi's. Wisconsin didn't win because "Texas played bad," they won because they played better than Texas. Texas swept Nebraska who beat Wisconsin twice that year. Don't belittle Wisconsin's win because you think Texas played poorly. If you wtaxhed that match and any other match they played you would see the difference in play. Texas had a bad match. Now a lot of this was due to Wisconsin playing good, but match them ten times, do you think Texas would play that bad the other nine times? Had Texas played the way they did against nebraska, Wisconsin would of lost. But the combination of wiscosin and poor passing made Texas lose
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Post by Longhorn20 on Jan 29, 2014 21:47:00 GMT -5
Agreed. That's why it's hard to predict who will be a final four team. Match ups are key. If wiscosnin faced a team like stanford this year in the sweet sixteen, I don't think they would of beat them. But had stanford faced anyone else besides penn state, I think they would of made it into the final four. That's why I feel the tournament isn't an accurate tool for deciding any other place but 1st Um, they beat TX and almost beat Penn State. How do you figure??!? To say they almost beat penn state is a little bit of a stretch. They gave them a heck of a game, the most competitive in the final four for sure. But I don't know if they ALMOST beat them.
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Post by SportyBucky on Jan 29, 2014 22:11:29 GMT -5
WI had something to do with how poorly TX played…oh, and their sub par passing and setting. Texas had sub par passing and setting all year long and managed to make it to the Semi's. Wisconsin didn't win because "Texas played bad," they won because they played better than Texas. Texas swept Nebraska who beat Wisconsin twice that year. Don't belittle Wisconsin's win because you think Texas played poorly. Are you seriously that stupid? I just said WI made TX look worse than they'd played the rest of the tournament. Reread it and I'll accept an apology.
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Post by SportyBucky on Jan 29, 2014 22:12:32 GMT -5
Texas had sub par passing and setting all year long and managed to make it to the Semi's. Wisconsin didn't win because "Texas played bad," they won because they played better than Texas. Texas swept Nebraska who beat Wisconsin twice that year. Don't belittle Wisconsin's win because you think Texas played poorly. If you wtaxhed that match and any other match they played you would see the difference in play. Texas had a bad match. Now a lot of this was due to Wisconsin playing good, but match them ten times, do you think Texas would play that bad the other nine times? Had Texas played the way they did against nebraska, Wisconsin would of lost. But the combination of wiscosin and poor passing made Texas lose Um, you could also say NE played very poorly, which they did. Funny, you didn't mention that. Did it have something to do with TX? OF course. However, they were tentative and the freshman phenoms played like sh*t.
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Post by SportyBucky on Jan 29, 2014 22:13:20 GMT -5
Um, they beat TX and almost beat Penn State. How do you figure??!? To say they almost beat penn state is a little bit of a stretch. They gave them a heck of a game, the most competitive in the final four for sure. But I don't know if they ALMOST beat them. Did you watch the match? We had game point in game 4 to take it to five. We had them on the ropes in game 2. If we get that game, it's a different match
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Post by SportyBucky on Jan 29, 2014 22:17:01 GMT -5
Texas had sub par passing and setting all year long and managed to make it to the Semi's. Wisconsin didn't win because "Texas played bad," they won because they played better than Texas. Texas swept Nebraska who beat Wisconsin twice that year. Don't belittle Wisconsin's win because you think Texas played poorly. If you wtaxhed that match and any other match they played you would see the difference in play. Texas had a bad match. Now a lot of this was due to Wisconsin playing good, but match them ten times, do you think Texas would play that bad the other nine times? Had Texas played the way they did against nebraska, Wisconsin would of lost. But the combination of wiscosin and poor passing made Texas lose And for your information, I watched them ALL SEASON! I live in Austin TX. TX played pretty crappy all season long but played crappy teams all season in the SEC. They couldn't pass and Hannah Allison is atrocious. She couldn't set a table with instructions.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Jan 29, 2014 22:28:52 GMT -5
If you wtaxhed that match and any other match they played you would see the difference in play. Texas had a bad match. Now a lot of this was due to Wisconsin playing good, but match them ten times, do you think Texas would play that bad the other nine times? Had Texas played the way they did against nebraska, Wisconsin would of lost. But the combination of wiscosin and poor passing made Texas lose And for your information, I watched them ALL SEASON! I live in Austin TX. TX played pretty crappy all season long but played crappy teams all season in the SEC. They couldn't pass and Hannah Allison is atrocious. She couldn't set a table with instructions. Texas doesn't play in the sec... Awkward. Texas beat penn state and stanford. They are a VERY talented team. Nebraska played horrible against Texas. That was due to Texas and them just being off. Just like Wisconsin. Stanford have oenn state a much better match and I'm not the only one who thought stanford was the second best team in the tournament
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Post by Longhorn20 on Jan 30, 2014 1:24:58 GMT -5
To say they almost beat penn state is a little bit of a stretch. They gave them a heck of a game, the most competitive in the final four for sure. But I don't know if they ALMOST beat them. Did you watch the match? We had game point in game 4 to take it to five. We had them on the ropes in game 2. If we get that game, it's a different match It was a very close game and I'd say it was extremely extremely close to going 5 and an incredibly competitive match, but I still think it's pushing it to say that Wisky almost won.
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Post by psumaui on Jan 30, 2014 5:27:55 GMT -5
What I saw from Wisconsin's win against TX was that they served TX tough just like Penn State did to TX in 2010 (Semifinals) and again to WA this year. Wisconsin gave Penn State trouble for same reason and also Hickey's tough defense in back row by keeping rally's going giving them more opportunities to score. Yea, Lauren was great at setter but without Hickey's great digs the match with Penn State would have been over in 3. It was also evident that Lauren had a hard time passing tough shots while in back row. Penn State had same problem with A. Scott when she was in back row and they targeted her then. I'm sure Lauren will be working on that aspect of her game for this year.
I predict Wisconsin has 10 or more losses this year due to losing their Libero unless they get a replacement as good or better than Hickey. Don't see them getting BIG Championship this year.
As for Wisconsin almost beating Penn State in Finals, at no time did Wisconsin have Penn State at point of elimination in match. Had they gone to 5 and been up 13-9 or something like that, then I might agree with that statement.
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Post by SportyBucky on Jan 30, 2014 8:53:15 GMT -5
And for your information, I watched them ALL SEASON! I live in Austin TX. TX played pretty crappy all season long but played crappy teams all season in the SEC. They couldn't pass and Hannah Allison is atrocious. She couldn't set a table with instructions. Texas doesn't play in the sec... Awkward. Texas beat penn state and stanford. They are a VERY talented team. Nebraska played horrible against Texas. That was due to Texas and them just being off. Just like Wisconsin. Stanford have oenn state a much better match and I'm not the only one who thought stanford was the second best team in the tournament It was late for me. Sorry. I know they play in the Big 12. Big 12 is worse than the SEC. Thanks for correcting but ignoring the obvious. NE played tentatively because they were nervous. Watch the twins. they were blocked once and didn't know what to do. FYI, TX beat PSU and Stanford first matches of the season. And it was a PSU team without Ariel Scott. Stanford...didn't watch that match. All that being said, it doesn't mean they didn't struggle against the Big 12, which they did. They may have won those matches, and won many of them in three games, but it was sometimes VERY painful to watch. Hannah truly hurt them. Bailey couldn't hit anything that wasn't sky-high and in the exact right position, which is why she struggled with the tempo of Chloe. Passing was really, really bad all season. They dominated many teams because of pure athleticism. If all you can criticize is my mistake on the conference as I'm consuming wine late at night, so be it. I'd prefer you have a pithy observation but I won't hold my breath.
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