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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2014 9:02:07 GMT -5
This would be a great and relevant post if there was anyone suggesting that the suggestion of depression was an attack, or that anyone suggested depression is in anyway a weakness. That hasn't happened. It did, actually. Word for word. I didn't write the posts below. Whether you like Dorothy or not you are the one printing that this athlete was sad and depressed. That is uncalled for and inappropriate. If he happens to defend a 20 year old girl for your very public assumption....good for him. I could care less how Texas does next year but when you start attacking the mental aspect of a player in a very vulnerable position it is not right.
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Post by akbar on Aug 8, 2014 9:27:23 GMT -5
This would be a great and relevant post if there was anyone suggesting that the suggestion of depression was an attack, or that anyone suggested depression is in anyway a weakness. That hasn't happened. It did, actually. Word for word. I didn't write the posts below. Whether you like Dorothy or not you are the one printing that this athlete was sad and depressed. That is uncalled for and inappropriate. If he happens to defend a 20 year old girl for your very public assumption....good for him. I could care less how Texas does next year but when you start attacking the mental aspect of a player in a very vulnerable position it is not right. Gogo , Dorothy did not write sadness and depression. That was in response to the author of this whole sad thread who used those exact words. If we really need to talk about PP maybe a thread title on how she will be used in their system would be better. Camp started today for a lot of teams and my hope would be that the "passionate" fans would be more concerned in looking forward and not backwards. Peace
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2014 9:53:23 GMT -5
I realize who said it.
I simply posted initially in RESPONSE to someone calling it an attack.
Dorothy then informed me that nobody ever said it was an attack.
I then responded here to state that yes, someone did say that.
The end.
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Post by Garand on Aug 8, 2014 13:51:07 GMT -5
There's been a little discussion of scholarship availability so far, but in general terms (not specifically Texas), what happens when a blue chip player unexpectedly becomes available and school wants her but has no scholarship to give?
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Post by dorothymantooth on Aug 8, 2014 14:39:49 GMT -5
There's been a little discussion of scholarship availability so far, but in general terms (not specifically Texas), what happens when a blue chip player unexpectedly becomes available and school wants her but has no scholarship to give? She doesn't go there She walks on for a year they make one available by taking a players scholarship.
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Post by Garand on Aug 8, 2014 14:51:26 GMT -5
It's the last one I was thinking about. Is it common for someone on the team to lose their money to make room for an incoming player? Or would a player (in Cerame's position) generally accept a year of walk-on in order to receive scholarship money for the rest of her time there? A player looking to transfer so late must assume that there would be no scholarship just laying around.
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Post by volleytology on Aug 8, 2014 15:08:38 GMT -5
Transfers transfer for a lot of reasons, but the main consideration should be in picking the new place is the ability to play right away. Most coaches with a weak spot in their lineup get really lucky when a transfer sends them their release and falls in their lap (ie. Robinson). On the other hand, transferring to sit the bench at the new place is just plain dumb
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Post by dorothymantooth on Aug 8, 2014 15:17:02 GMT -5
Transfers transfer for a lot of reasons, but the main consideration should be in picking the new place is the ability to play right away. Most coaches with a weak spot in their lineup get really lucky when a transfer sends them their release and falls in their lap (ie. Robinson). On the other hand, transferring to sit the bench at the new place is just plain dumb The main consideration should be addressing what it is you are unhappy with at your current school. Nobody transfers to sit the bench, it happens but that isn't why they do it. There aren't guarantee's anywhere unless you transfer down a full level.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Aug 8, 2014 15:18:15 GMT -5
Transfers transfer for a lot of reasons, but the main consideration should be in picking the new place is the ability to play right away. Most coaches with a weak spot in their lineup get really lucky when a transfer sends them their release and falls in their lap (ie. Robinson). On the other hand, transferring to sit the bench at the new place is just plain dumb The main consideration should be addressing what it is you are unhappy with at your current school. To use your own example, Robinson didn't transfer for playing time. Ward didn't, Wicinski didn't....... Nobody transfers to sit the bench, it happens but that isn't why they do it. There aren't guarantee's anywhere unless you transfer down a full level.
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Post by volleytology on Aug 8, 2014 15:32:15 GMT -5
The main consideration should be addressing what it is you are unhappy with at your current school. To use your own example, Robinson didn't transfer for playing time. Ward didn't, Wicinski didn't....... Nobody transfers to sit the bench, it happens but that isn't why they do it. There aren't guarantee's anywhere unless you transfer down a full level. All of those examples transferred to places where they would play immediately; exactly my point
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Post by volleytology on Aug 8, 2014 15:33:51 GMT -5
The main consideration should be addressing what it is you are unhappy with at your current school. To use your own example, Robinson didn't transfer for playing time. Ward didn't, Wicinski didn't....... Nobody transfers to sit the bench, it happens but that isn't why they do it. There aren't guarantee's anywhere unless you transfer down a full level. My other point is players that transfer and sit the bench didn't do their due diligence and made a poor decision. If you don't care if you play or not, I don't want you as a transfer
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2014 15:35:17 GMT -5
All of those examples transferred to places where they would play immediately; exactly my point But they didn't transfer to get playing time -- they already had playing time.
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Post by volleytology on Aug 8, 2014 15:36:57 GMT -5
All of those examples transferred to places where they would play immediately; exactly my point But they didn't transfer to get playing time -- they already had playing time. Again, that's not the point I made. iF you are going to transfer for whatever reason, being able to play right away should be the number one priority in picking the next school
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Post by Garand on Aug 8, 2014 15:39:34 GMT -5
I don't think sitting on the bench is necessarily the result of poor planning or lack of diligence. Once on the team, a number of things can happen like a coaching change, an incoming player (or transfer) who takes your job away from you, injuries that cause you to fall behind, etc. These sorts of things happen and don't reflect badly on the player's research in choosing her school.
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Post by volleytology on Aug 8, 2014 15:45:31 GMT -5
I don't think sitting on the bench is necessarily the result of poor planning or lack of diligence. Once on the team, a number of things can happen like a coaching change, an incoming player (or transfer) who takes your job away from you, injuries that cause you to fall behind, etc. These sorts of things happen and don't reflect badly on the player's research in choosing her school. Who said anything about "once on the team" ? I'm talking about evaluating the schools, their open spots and how that works for you in picking the place to play. Coaches also don't want transfers on the bench; not smart for anyone
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