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Post by hammer on Aug 27, 2014 20:24:51 GMT -5
This thread is amazing with the parroting of inaccurate information over and over about Brian and his program. I guess if you saw it on this board once it must be true and worthy of repeating over and over again, making it true for many readers of this board. I just do not understand why so many members of this board attack Brian and LBSU. Brian's "admirers" have determined he is one huge piñata ...
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Post by BeiBei on Aug 27, 2014 20:51:21 GMT -5
LBSU has not gone past the second round since Weaver and Haneef graduated. That was a long tine ago!
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Post by rainbowbadger on Aug 27, 2014 20:55:00 GMT -5
This thread is amazing with the parroting of inaccurate information over and over about Brian and his program. I guess if you saw it on this board once it must be true and worthy of repeating over and over again, making it true for many readers of this board. I just do not understand why so many members of this board attack Brian and LBSU. To be clear, I am not attackibg Brian or LBSU. I know nothing about Brian and very little about LBSU. And I take what anonymous VT posters say on here with an entire shaker of salt. I'm simply saying that this article doesn't exactly cast a favorable light on him. Erin Juley has said nothing about her transfer beyond "irreconcilable differences with the coaching staff" and that it became clear to her that if she wanted to continue her volleyball career, she needed to go elsewhere. I do wonder if the Beach had other options for setter in 2011, or if Juley had no choice but to play as much as she did. One could draw the conclusion - again, from an outsider's perspective - that BG brought in a setter who he knew had a history of knee problems, and ran her ragged such that she had lingering issues and needed more surgery, and then he bailed on her when things got tough. For the record, I know nothing about the MB situation. All I know is that I'm glad the Badgers got Juley, and apparently BG thinks he traded up also. So a win-win. This season will determine whether BG was oorrect to blame the team's stagnation on those players.
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Post by truthandjustice on Aug 27, 2014 22:00:32 GMT -5
The Beach are going to be very good. Sweet 16 good if they dont get matched up against Texas, Penn State, USC in first or second rounds...
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Post by VBCOACH on Aug 27, 2014 22:27:46 GMT -5
What are you trying to say? Because what you actually did say doesn't really make much sense. Isn't it always better to be winning and making the tournament? I'm saying he can be a difficult person to deal with, and players were willing to tolerate that if there was a reward. There's not much reward anymore. I know a former Long Beach player (recent graduate) who had an excellent college career and I asked her why she went to Long Beach, knowing that Brian was known as a difficult coach to play for. She replied that all the recruits know that, but choose to go there anyway because Brian is such a great coach, they know that they will really learn the game. Whatever other knock you want to put on him, Brian is one of the best, if not the best, pure volleyball coach out there. You might remember some of the players he coached: Dani Scott and a hitter converted into a setter - Misty May.
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Post by internationalball on Aug 28, 2014 1:08:26 GMT -5
The Beach are going to be very good. Sweet 16 good if they dont get matched up against Texas, Penn State, USC in first or second rounds... Texas wasn't a good passing/digging team last year. They will have a lot of firepower that's for sure!
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Post by topspin on Aug 28, 2014 1:11:59 GMT -5
I'm saying he can be a difficult person to deal with, and players were willing to tolerate that if there was a reward. There's not much reward anymore. I know a former Long Beach player (recent graduate) who had an excellent college career and I asked her why she went to Long Beach, knowing that Brian was known as a difficult coach to play for. She replied that all the recruits know that, but choose to go there anyway because Brian is such a great coach, they know that they will really learn the game. Whatever other knock you want to put on him, Brian is one of the best, if not the best, pure volleyball coach out there. You might remember some of the players he coached: Dani Scott and a hitter converted into a setter - Misty May. Amen. What other mid-major program has won national championships and produced multiple Olympians? He obviously knows his stuff and does a great job of developing talent. I have no connection to LBSU, but I would consider him one of the top 5 coaches in the nation.
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Post by internationalball on Aug 28, 2014 1:23:10 GMT -5
I know a former Long Beach player (recent graduate) who had an excellent college career and I asked her why she went to Long Beach, knowing that Brian was known as a difficult coach to play for. She replied that all the recruits know that, but choose to go there anyway because Brian is such a great coach, they know that they will really learn the game. Whatever other knock you want to put on him, Brian is one of the best, if not the best, pure volleyball coach out there. You might remember some of the players he coached: Dani Scott and a hitter converted into a setter - Misty May. Amen. What other mid-major program has won national championships and produced multiple Olympians? He obviously knows his stuff and does a great job of developing talent. I have no connection to LBSU, but I would consider him one of the top 5 coaches in the nation. Ummm.....HAWAII? Anyway, as a Hawaii fan, I have nothing bad to say about Brian, he is one of the best coaches in women's collegiate volleyball. Tara Cross, Antoinette White, Danielle Scott, Misty May, all former National Player of the Year honorees, with Misty and Tara, being named NPOY twice in their careers....that is something special and it speaks for Brian's ability to transform these girls into amazing athletes.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Aug 28, 2014 4:09:15 GMT -5
I wonder if BG will be upgrading his toupee to go along with the new look of his team...
Bring on the beach and BG's toupee!
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Post by big10vb on Sept 14, 2014 19:22:23 GMT -5
Hailey Harward, Class of 2016 OH/Libero has verbally committed to Long Beach for indoor and sand.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Sept 19, 2014 15:52:55 GMT -5
Beach over Fresno -21, -15, -16. now for Bakersfield, and then Oregon State
LB needs some dominating wins right now
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Post by thebeach1 on Sept 19, 2014 19:45:02 GMT -5
The Beach should barely break a sweat tonight against an undersized Bakersfield squad. On another note, coming to Bakersfield today reminds me how fortunate I am to live in the city of Long Beach.
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Post by shark on Sept 21, 2014 22:21:33 GMT -5
I see that The Beach were beaten in 5 by Oregon State, I don't see that necessarily as an upset. Other than the match report online was anyone at the game that has an insight into how the Match went?
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Post by vbcoltrane on Sept 21, 2014 22:29:17 GMT -5
LBSU has not gone past the second round since Weaver and Haneef graduated. That was a long tine ago! Is there any chance that these legacy volleyball schools (LBSU, Pacific, for example) could be contenders or at least consistently Top 25 again? The big media money really does matter doesn't it. Is there any reason to go to these old-school schools when you could go to one of the big-conference schools?
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Sept 21, 2014 22:54:28 GMT -5
Hawaii, San Diego, Northern Iowa, BYU (which is unique), Colorado State, Long Beach, LMU, UOP....etc.
Yes they than can be consistently top 25 with the right coach. Contenders??? it seems that gets more distant/harder each year, especially with BCS re-alignment. It's not impossible, but the barriers are large.
Yeah, there's a lot of reasons to go to these 'old-school' schools. Could be a specific degree, coaching, most of the schools have high-caliber competition (not everyone has Big-10/Pac-12 competition). Some very good WVB arenas, really you only need to have a 3000 seat VB gym to have WVB 'capacity' for D1.
However, along with the money, those schools have to deal with perception, and in the eyes of a 16-18 year old recruit, the perception of even being a 'lesser program', 'lesser degree' (often not relevant), 'lesser college experience' (like it's Sooooooooo important to go to a school that plays D1 BCS football), 'lesser fancy locker & weight rooms' (100 pounds on a bench press is 100 pounds on a bench press after all whether it's in the basement or in a locker room with an attendant to wipe your butt), the perception increasingly works against these schools.
On the flip side, the locales for some of the non-BCS schools, quality coaching, perhaps less extensive travel (WCC/Big West), the opportunity to perhaps step in and play as frosh - all are niches the 'old-school' programs can offer/exploit still to some extent. It just depends.
1998 was the last non-BCS champion, so it's going on 16 years - it does seem hard to imagine a non-BCS champion soon, it's gonna take a combination of perhaps a magical player and probably some fortuitous recruiting to make it happen again.
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