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Post by fetchin on Aug 29, 2014 22:33:46 GMT -5
There goes "wahinefan44" butting it's head where it has no business and acting like it knows what it's talking about when it has no clue.
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Post by jasonr on Aug 29, 2014 22:34:36 GMT -5
It wasn't the only issue, but it certainly was an issue. It wasn't 27th either, it was third. Her location was bad and it's been bad during her entire tenure. Eventually you have to call a spade a spade. Anyone can look at my posts from last year, I gave her every opportunity in the world; I even excused downright ugly performances, but Nebraska won't maximize their potential with her setting. Her performance in practice is another reason I couldn't care less about practices and scrimmages. I'm Iverson. I want gamers. I'm not sure if Hunter is a gamer, but I know Mary isn't, unfortunately. You can't be a great setter when you're known more for your attack and blocking ability than decision-making and location. Lastly, although she's a captain, her team gets no uplifting presence from her on the court. During big points or a bad string of points, she's just stone-faced out there. All that said, Nebraska's passing was spotty and they served too soft throughout. Congrats to FSU and especially Walch who stepped up after getting owned in set one. The best thing that can happen to the Huskers would be for them to get thumped by Stanford. Cook needs needs a solution for that one atrocious rotation and he needs to reevaluate his setter decision. Did you just say you are Iverson? If you acknowledge that the passing and serving were big issues, and Polmillers play was their third biggest issue, you are suggesting her individual play was more sub-standard than kadie or Ambers? You are also now suggesting that the best thing for Nebraska is to get thumped by Stanford? Give us your solution for that atrocious rotation? They served and passed at an awful level, 2 of 3 pin players had disaster matches, how does setting, anyone's setting address that? What do you suggest? Should we just absolve setters unless passes are perfect? I was there. Hitters were jumping early, late, were expecting sets outside/inside and then had to readjust in mid-air, and there were outright whiffs. I'm going to go out on a sturdy limb and say that all of Nebraska's hitters aren't stupid. The common denominator is the setter. Even when Nebraska passes lights out she has these issues. I don't know why so many people are scared to admit it.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Aug 29, 2014 22:39:13 GMT -5
I've saw her club matches, and basing off what every single nebraska fan has said on here, she seems like the better option. Mary struggled last year, especially against Texas. She's not a horrible setter, but IMO, hunter seems like the better option First off nowhere even close to every fan has suggested Hunter is better. Observations from club and HS have no business being brought up, its apples and canned hams. I think Hunter may actually be a hair better, but not enough to burn a year of eligibility and certainly not enough to change the dynamics of what went wrong in that match. In the end Polmiller and Hunter are both good players who bring different things to the table. Hunter has greater highs and lows, Polmiller steadier, more mature. I just wish someone out there could explain to me how a different setter could change the challenges they had this evening? They can improve passing, and not just more balls to targets but prevent reception errors and at critical times? They can get the group to serve more competitively, they can take two top players who were awful and even worse under pressure, and make them exceptional? Nebraska had a really good young setter, with a ton of potential on the bench, not Jesus. Unless Mary made gigantic improvements from last year, that's what I'm judging my observations on. Mary was lucky to have a Robinson who could get a kill just about on every set possible. I watched quite a bit nebraska matches last year and was never impressed with her. I never said she was a horrible setter, far from it, but she's not what Nebraska needs IMO. Most nebraska fans have claimed hunter is the better setter. Just go through the Nebraska 2014 thread and you'll see it. The only think they said Mary is better at is being a vocal leader and I agree about that. She very much is a leader. And Mary obviously has potential considering she was the third ranked setter in her class. Yeah you can't compare highschool and Club to now with definitive answers, but you can't disregard it. If hunter, who had very little playing time last year was "equal" going into today's match (according to cook) and how much praise she got in China, and the scrimmage, against Mary who has years on her belt, something's tells me hunter should be starting.
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Post by bball on Aug 29, 2014 22:40:28 GMT -5
I was at the match. I thought Florida State was a really good team. I was surprised we were unable to pull of the match though. Errors is was plagued the team. We had too many errors, and at the worst times.
Mary does have some issue with placing the ball. She especially struggled with that tonight with height for Cece Hall. She always sets her about a foot too low, and if she set her high, it was too high and she could barely get a finger on it. No connection going on there. She also set Kadie too far off the pin too often, and set the ball too high and at a slow tempo, which allowed for easy set up on blocking. I think I only saw one situation where Kadie was 1 on 1. She had two up on her the whole night. Mary has gotten a bit better from last season, but she needs to smooth it and get in better system for her hitters more effectively. Ostrander had to deal with two blockers most the night as well, but handled it much better.
I thought Amber had a good night. Or better than she has been in the past. the back row subs are VERY GOOD, all of them. Just great! I think Haggerty was good! What happened to Kiel, why wasn't she suited up?
We just don't have a player who can KILL the BALL!!!! Lots of tip's and double blockers up at all times against our hitters. They need all the breaks and space they can get, so setting and errors were the issues tonight, and ball control as well. But errors was the issue. We made more than FSU and that's how they won.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Aug 29, 2014 22:40:36 GMT -5
There goes "wahinefan44" butting it's head where it has no business and acting like it knows what it's talking about when it has no clue. Why don't I have business's, because I'm a wahine fan? No. I have every right to be here because I have immense respect for Nebraska and the program. And not once did I even remotely say I was right. MY OPINION, is my opinion. Not fact .
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Post by redincolorado on Aug 29, 2014 22:42:11 GMT -5
There goes "wahinefan44" butting it's head where it has no business and acting like it knows what it's talking about when it has no clue. Has no clue Did you WATCH the match or listen ?? I watched and far to many sets were moonbeamed so high the ball came down with ice on it. You think those moonbeams which took a half hour to come down stressed the FSU defense ?? MP also had some very nice quicks to the middles. For the most part when MP received the ball on a decent pass she okay. Still, even on to many of those she moonbeamed the set into the stratosphere.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Aug 29, 2014 22:44:42 GMT -5
There goes "wahinefan44" butting it's head where it has no business and acting like it knows what it's talking about when it has no clue. Has no clue Did you WATCH the match or listen ?? I watched and far to many sets were moonbeamed so high the ball came down with ice on it. You think those moonbeams which took a half hour to come down stressed the FSU defense ?? MP also had some very nice quicks to the middles. For the most part when MP received the ball on a decent pass she okay. Still, even on to many of those she moonbeamed the set into the stratosphere. Thank you. I'm not even saying Mary is bad. She's not. She's a very good setter, but IMO, she needs a lot of work if she wants to succeed in the b1g. A setter makes all the difference and from what I've seen of hunter in highschool and club, plus what people and cook have said about her, she seems like the one to do that. Now she won't be carlini and be this other worldly player, but she will make a difference
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Post by jasonr on Aug 29, 2014 22:45:04 GMT -5
We just don't have a player who can KILL the BALL!!!! Lots of tip's and double blockers up at all times against our hitters. They need all the breaks and space they can get, so setting and errors were the issues tonight, and ball control as well. But errors was the issue. We made more than FSU and that's how they won. There's a reason for all the tips and rolls. It's due to decision-making and misplaced sets, but few people want to point at actual setting, instead they want to set off an infinite regression of events to place blame. Poor setting was due to the imperfect passing which is due to technique errors which is the fault of their club coaches and the players' anthropometry which means their parents' genetics should be blamed, yada yada yada, that damn singularity and big bang are to blame not Mary.
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Post by FrancisFrogg on Aug 29, 2014 22:45:45 GMT -5
The twins are the heart and soul of the Huskers this year. We need to keep them on the court period. IMHO, if the twins are the heart and soul of this team,,,,,Lord help the Huskers.
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Post by redincolorado on Aug 29, 2014 22:50:24 GMT -5
We just don't have a player who can KILL the BALL!!!! Lots of tip's and double blockers up at all times against our hitters. They need all the breaks and space they can get, so setting and errors were the issues tonight, and ball control as well. But errors was the issue. We made more than FSU and that's how they won. There's a reason for all the tips and rolls. It's due to decision-making and misplaced sets, but few people want to point at actual setting, instead they want to set off an infinite regression of events to place blame. Poor setting was due to the imperfect passing which is due to technique errors which is the fault of their club coaches and the players' anthropometry which means their parents' genetics should be blamed, yada yada yada, that damn singularity and big bang are to blame not Mary. LOL, ROTF That was/is some funny retorting. Well done.
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Post by redincolorado on Aug 29, 2014 22:54:19 GMT -5
The twins are the heart and soul of the Huskers this year. We need to keep them on the court period. IMHO, if the twins are the heart and soul of this team,,,,,Lord help the Huskers. I wouldn't be so quick to toss them under the bus. How many time last season was I posting: "Kadieboom" as she repeatedly terminated thunderously. She had an off night tonight but she wasn't alone. Nebraska has a LOT of work to do and that includes every single player.
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Post by jasonr on Aug 29, 2014 22:55:25 GMT -5
The twins are the heart and soul of the Huskers this year. We need to keep them on the court period. IMHO, if the twins are the heart and soul of this team,,,,,Lord help the Huskers. Captains are supposed to be the heart and soul. Only Justine lives up to it. She's completely locked in, encourages teammates, has fun/tries to keep everyone loose, and still leads by example via brilliant play.
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Post by jasonr on Aug 29, 2014 22:57:48 GMT -5
Alright, venting over. I'll be ready to cheer for them on Sunday regardless. Knowing the pendulum of athletic performance, they'll probably play out of their minds and beat Stanford.
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Post by coloradokidd on Aug 29, 2014 22:58:19 GMT -5
Well it looks like it going to be a loooooooooong season for Nebraska if they don't learn how to serve better. FSU was in system all night long cuz' of Nebraska's lollipop serving. I'm not impressed with Pollmiller. I guess I have to many memories of Lauren Cook's setting. I kind of like the short serve as a change-up in the mix, but Coach Cook must of been trying to force them to make certain adjustments in their serve receive. In this type of match where you're more concerned with the performance on your own side, I was surprised by the constant use. But maybe he'll address why. Mary was a little off tonight even when the pass was good, I thought she would have been more improved by now. Hopefully she'll be able to deliver like the coaching staff thinks she can, or I can see Kelly's redshirt not lasting the year. * I kept thinking; when was the last time the Huskers used the short serve so much - was it the unexpected loss to TOSU in the coliseum? Though I can't make any relevance between the two.
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Post by Nside on Aug 29, 2014 23:03:48 GMT -5
I thought Mary did OK with what she was given most of the night. However, her back-to-back attack attempts at about 20 all in the 4th were horrible decisions. I was most disappointed in the Rolfzen's serve receive.
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