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Post by jasonr on Sept 7, 2014 19:07:00 GMT -5
Not true about scholarship athletes finding out about admission to Stanford..... You don't find out if you are admitted until they have your final transcripts. They do not give priority to athletes like many universities do. Gotta respect Stanford's integrity...higher standards across the board, and they hold people to it. They can afford to do that because their alumni base/network makes their degree so valuable. We recently had to hire an engineer and the two finalists were from Stanford and Georgia Tech. Truth be told, while both were bright/capable, the guy from Georgia Tech had a little more apt experience for the position but our firm went with the guy from Stanford because he has personal ties with a VC firm with which we do business. People speak of a Stanford or Ivy League school degree as though the value is in the education. It isn't. A good student can develop optimally at almost any accredited institution. The value is in the network. I think most student-athletes' parents understand that and will make sure it's clear to their child before any decision is made. Waiting for an acceptance from their admissions before making a final decision is just due diligence.
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Post by ay2013 on Sept 7, 2014 19:09:03 GMT -5
Gotta respect Stanford's integrity...higher standards across the board, and they hold people to it. They can afford to do that because their alumni base/network makes their degree so valuable. We recently had to hire an engineer and the two finalists were from Stanford and Georgia Tech. Truth be told, while both were bright/capable, the guy from Georgia Tech had a little more apt experience for the position but our firm went with the guy from Stanford because he has personal ties with a VC firm with which we do business. People speak of a Stanford or Ivy League school degree as though the value is in the education. It isn't. A good student can develop optimally at almost any accredited institution. The value is in the network. I think most student-athletes' parents understand that and will make sure it's clear to their child before any decision is made. Waiting for an acceptance from their admissions before making a final decision is just due diligence. Exactly, which is why, as I have said before, I simply cannot understand when players consciously choose to go to a different program over Stanford. The life after volleyball a Stanford degree can give you is simply unmatched in college volleyball.
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Post by jasonr on Sept 7, 2014 19:13:21 GMT -5
They can afford to do that because their alumni base/network makes their degree so valuable. We recently had to hire an engineer and the two finalists were from Stanford and Georgia Tech. Truth be told, while both were bright/capable, the guy from Georgia Tech had a little more apt experience for the position but our firm went with the guy from Stanford because he has personal ties with a VC firm with which we do business. People speak of a Stanford or Ivy League school degree as though the value is in the education. It isn't. A good student can develop optimally at almost any accredited institution. The value is in the network. I think most student-athletes' parents understand that and will make sure it's clear to their child before any decision is made. Waiting for an acceptance from their admissions before making a final decision is just due diligence. Exactly, which is why, as I have said before, I simply cannot understand when players consciously choose to go to a different program over Stanford. The life after volleyball a Stanford degree can give you is simply unmatched in college volleyball. Well, there's something to be said for believing in one's own abilities and not wanting to rely on your alma mater's network opening doors for you. If someone goes to Washington, Nebraska, heck, Florida A&M, wherever, they can still have a great life. Plus, as I've mentioned before, graduate/professional school repuations are more important than undergraduate school reputations in most employment cases.
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Post by southie on Sept 8, 2014 7:38:46 GMT -5
They can afford to do that because their alumni base/network makes their degree so valuable. We recently had to hire an engineer and the two finalists were from Stanford and Georgia Tech. Truth be told, while both were bright/capable, the guy from Georgia Tech had a little more apt experience for the position but our firm went with the guy from Stanford because he has personal ties with a VC firm with which we do business. People speak of a Stanford or Ivy League school degree as though the value is in the education. It isn't. A good student can develop optimally at almost any accredited institution. The value is in the network. I think most student-athletes' parents understand that and will make sure it's clear to their child before any decision is made. Waiting for an acceptance from their admissions before making a final decision is just due diligence. Exactly, which is why, as I have said before, I simply cannot understand when players consciously choose to go to a different program over Stanford. The life after volleyball a Stanford degree can give you is simply unmatched in college volleyball. Maybe because everyone is different and not cut from the same exact cloth, and has their own set of priorities, or doesn't mesh will with the coaching staff or the offense run. And, on average Stanford can only sign 3 players to volleyball scholarships each recruiting class and recruits aren't always willing to wait until so late in the process to select a university. Some recruits want to stay close to home and play in front of friends and family. And, some recruits grow up dreaming of playing for a certain school, like the ones who have made a Final Four in the last six years . . .
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Post by oldmanred on Sept 8, 2014 7:46:02 GMT -5
Wow! And who is the most successful investor in America and where did he go to school at? It wasn't Stanford!
GO HUSKERS
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Post by big10vb on Sept 8, 2014 8:01:49 GMT -5
How many scholarships does Stanford have? Kathryn Plummer and Mimi Mirkovic were both at Stanford volleyball and football games this week. Plummer is 2016 recruit, not sure about Mirkovic.
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Post by Sbilo on Sept 8, 2014 8:17:30 GMT -5
How many scholarships does Stanford have? Kathryn Plummer and Mimi Mirkovic were both at Stanford volleyball and football games this week. Plummer is 2016 recruit, not sure about Mirkovic. Mirkovic is also a 2016. Both players are from Tsreet volleyball club and have played the Girl's NT. Mirkovic is an undersized OH, around 5'11 or 6'0 but is an excellent passer and defender. I am not sure about it but Stanford pretty much needs another top OH for 2016 since we graduate Burgess and Howard the previous which will only leave Hodson and Brown and possibly Vanjak. Kathryn Plummer will not set in college. Her strength is at the Opposite/RS. And she will be the best player on that class and on that position, no doubt. She is as good as advertised.
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Post by Sbilo on Sept 8, 2014 8:19:39 GMT -5
And not to worry about how many scholarships does Stanford have for 2016. They signed 5 players in 2012 (Burgess, Howard, Ajanaku, Bugg and Mcgehee) so I don't think they will have a trouble on the number of scholarships by 2016. As previously posted on this board by a Cardinal fan, Stanford will be a good destination for 2016 as it will graduate 4 or even 5 starters by 2015.
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Post by NebraskaVBfan93 on Sept 8, 2014 13:53:13 GMT -5
They can afford to do that because their alumni base/network makes their degree so valuable. We recently had to hire an engineer and the two finalists were from Stanford and Georgia Tech. Truth be told, while both were bright/capable, the guy from Georgia Tech had a little more apt experience for the position but our firm went with the guy from Stanford because he has personal ties with a VC firm with which we do business. People speak of a Stanford or Ivy League school degree as though the value is in the education. It isn't. A good student can develop optimally at almost any accredited institution. The value is in the network. I think most student-athletes' parents understand that and will make sure it's clear to their child before any decision is made. Waiting for an acceptance from their admissions before making a final decision is just due diligence. Exactly, which is why, as I have said before, I simply cannot understand when players consciously choose to go to a different program over Stanford. The life after volleyball a Stanford degree can give you is simply unmatched in college volleyball. While I respect the appreciation you have for Stanford, different people have different values. This doesn't make you wrong, nor does it those who make a choice other than what you would choose wrong. My brother went to Harvard. While I could have gone there as well, I chose Nebraska Wesleyan. While NWU is a very good private liberal arts institution, it's definitely not Harvard. But it suited my needs better. While Stanford is an excellent institution, it isn't for everyone. And "the life after volleyball" is not in any way shape or form guaranteed no matter where one goes to college.
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Sept 8, 2014 14:16:21 GMT -5
How many scholarships does Stanford have? Kathryn Plummer and Mimi Mirkovic were both at Stanford volleyball and football games this week. Plummer is 2016 recruit, not sure about Mirkovic. Mirkovic is also a 2016. Both players are from Tsreet volleyball club and have played the Girl's NT. Mirkovic is an undersized OH, around 5'11 or 6'0 but is an excellent passer and defender. I am not sure about it but Stanford pretty much needs another top OH for 2016 since we graduate Burgess and Howard the previous which will only leave Hodson and Brown and possibly Vanjak. Kathryn Plummer will not set in college. Her strength is at the Opposite/RS. And she will be the best player on that class and on that position, no doubt. She is as good as advertised. Mirkovic is a 2017.
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Post by oldmanred on Sept 8, 2014 14:18:27 GMT -5
Wow! And who is the most successful investor in America and where did he go to school at? It wasn't Stanford! GO HUSKERS True, but I don't think even Warren Buffet himself would argue that transferring to UNL for undergrad had any significant impact on his future success. And it also shows that no mater where you go; you can do well in the job market if you get the grades and the preperation you need for your future! You can yahoo Stanford all you want but you can get quality education an UNL also! Wherever you go you need to apply yourself! GO HUSKERS
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Post by ay2013 on Sept 8, 2014 14:21:27 GMT -5
True, but I don't think even Warren Buffet himself would argue that transferring to UNL for undergrad had any significant impact on his future success. And it also shows that no mater where you go; you can do well in the job market if you get the grades and the preperation you need for your future! You can yahoo Stanford all you want but you can get quality education an UNL also! Wherever you go you need to apply yourself! GO HUSKERS Oh, I never said that individuals couldn't, and also never said that a quality education could not be attained at many institutions (UNL included)...but people like Buffet are seemingly rare cases that probably would have succeeded anywhere. Pointing out exceptional circumstances to try and prove a point isn't a very sound argument. I would look at aggregates and medians. What type of jobs and salaries does the average Stanford grad earn compared to other volleyball powerhouses? That is what I would use to prove points, not pointing to the rare billionares. Obviously people have different values which will drive their decisions, but the better question, I suppose, is are they valuing the right things for the right reasons? It's a personal choice, and one that I don't have an answer to. I can only advocate how my mind would work if I was choosing between a Stanford education (and volleyball) and an education from a different institution (and volleyball). To me, that decision would be easy.
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Post by oldmanred on Sept 8, 2014 14:37:40 GMT -5
And it also shows that no mater where you go; you can do well in the job market if you get the grades and the preperation you need for your future! You can yahoo Stanford all you want but you can get quality education an UNL also! Wherever you go you need to apply yourself! GO HUSKERS Oh, I never said that individuals couldn't, and also never said that a quality education could not be attained at many institutions (UNL included)...but people like Buffet are seemingly rare cases that probably would have succeeded anywhere. Pointing out exceptional circumstances to try and prove a point isn't a very sound argument. I would look at aggregates and medians. What type of jobs and salaries does the average Stanford grad earn compared to other volleyball powerhouses? That is what I would use to prove points, not pointing to the rare billionares. Obviously people have different values which will drive their decisions, but the better question, I suppose, is are they valuing the right things for the right reasons? It's a personal choice, and one that I don't have an answer to. I can only advocate how my mind would work if I was choosing between a Stanford education (and volleyball) and an education from a different institution (and volleyball). To me, that decision would be easy. Good for you! Sounded to me that you were trying to convince kids that they should consider Stanford over other schools! If I were lookin for a career on the westcoast; I would consider a westcoast school! If I wanted to stay in the midwest or the plains; I'd go to school here! GO HUSKERS
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Post by holidayhusker on Sept 8, 2014 15:35:48 GMT -5
And it also shows that no mater where you go; you can do well in the job market if you get the grades and the preperation you need for your future! You can yahoo Stanford all you want but you can get quality education an UNL also! Wherever you go you need to apply yourself! GO HUSKERS Oh, I never said that individuals couldn't, and also never said that a quality education could not be attained at many institutions (UNL included)...but people like Buffet are seemingly rare cases that probably would have succeeded anywhere. Pointing out exceptional circumstances to try and prove a point isn't a very sound argument. I would look at aggregates and medians. What type of jobs and salaries does the average Stanford grad earn compared to other volleyball powerhouses? That is what I would use to prove points, not pointing to the rare billionaires. Obviously people have different values which will drive their decisions, but the better question, I suppose, is are they valuing the right things for the right reasons? It's a personal choice, and one that I don't have an answer to. I can only advocate how my mind would work if I was choosing between a Stanford education (and volleyball) and an education from a different institution (and volleyball). To me, that decision would be easy. I used to be a college education snob like you, then I began looking around. What you achieve is in your drive and ambition. I know a few Ivy League grads that were incredibly bright but had no drive after graduating. They are now sluffing through life.One is working at a book store and the other is living with his parents trying to "find himself." I also know a couple of young men who attended Jr. College, started a fertilizer company, and sold it a few months ago for several million dollars. Absolutely a high level education helps, but it does not ensure success. People make their own success.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Sept 8, 2014 18:56:36 GMT -5
And it also shows that no mater where you go; you can do well in the job market if you get the grades and the preperation you need for your future! You can yahoo Stanford all you want but you can get quality education an UNL also! Wherever you go you need to apply yourself! GO HUSKERS Oh, I never said that individuals couldn't, and also never said that a quality education could not be attained at many institutions (UNL included)...but people like Buffet are seemingly rare cases that probably would have succeeded anywhere. Pointing out exceptional circumstances to try and prove a point isn't a very sound argument. I would look at aggregates and medians. What type of jobs and salaries does the average Stanford grad earn compared to other volleyball powerhouses? That is what I would use to prove points, not pointing to the rare billionares. Obviously people have different values which will drive their decisions, but the better question, I suppose, is are they valuing the right things for the right reasons? It's a personal choice, and one that I don't have an answer to. I can only advocate how my mind would work if I was choosing between a Stanford education (and volleyball) and an education from a different institution (and volleyball). To me, that decision would be easy. "to me" is the key. Each decision a kid makes is unique to them. Another thing that people don't think about when kids choose schools, is what you want to do professionally with that degree. Someone like Christa Harmotto looked at Stanford, Duke etc... but she knew she wanted to be a teacher. Do you need to go to Stanford to make that happen? If you did, would you make more money? You (and I don't think you are) can't judge people by your own standards. Heck, that's why so many people around the globe can't stand the U.S., there is this insistence on "what we think is the best for people, is the best for people"
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