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Post by ay2013 on Sept 4, 2014 22:27:03 GMT -5
I was thinking Missouri, too, but really, FSU has about as many quality wins already as Missouri last year. If the Seminoles get through with few or no losses looking at a top seed. Great. In the east regional which will almost surely be packed with Big 10 teams, and no ranked west coast teams for a solid look at multiple final four bids.
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Post by vball1825 on Sept 4, 2014 22:46:04 GMT -5
Back from Tully and my thoughts 1) I hate that FSU didn't make us pay for the 1st set SEs. We didn't deserve that set and we needed to face the adversity that that created. 2) our passing was below average. And that had nothing to do w FSU serves. The serves were manageable, we just weren't focused. That led to us not getting enough attempts to the middles 3) UF is more talented than FSU overall. But FSU is better at competing and that's the difference. 4). I hate Tully gym. Flipping sweat box UF is not more talented than FSU overall. I was also at the game and without Alex Holston the game would have been over much quicker. Maybe UF's outsides just had a below average game, but judging from this game FSU is definitely a more talented overall team.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Sept 4, 2014 22:49:19 GMT -5
Back from Tully and my thoughts 1) I hate that FSU didn't make us pay for the 1st set SEs. We didn't deserve that set and we needed to face the adversity that that created. 2) our passing was below average. And that had nothing to do w FSU serves. The serves were manageable, we just weren't focused. That led to us not getting enough attempts to the middles 3) UF is more talented than FSU overall. But FSU is better at competing and that's the difference. 4). I hate Tully gym. Flipping sweat box UF is not more talented than FSU overall. I was also at the game and without Alex Holston the game would have been over much quicker. Maybe UF's outsides just had a below average game, but judging from this game FSU is definitely a more talented overall team. I think people confuse athleticism and talent. UF may have better athletes, but that does not mean better talent.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Sept 4, 2014 22:51:21 GMT -5
Gotta give it to FSU, two wins vs college vb heavyweights.
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Post by volleyfan24 on Sept 4, 2014 23:04:07 GMT -5
That's an ugly loss for Florida and having Texas coming up will do them no favors. From the sound of it, Texas could sweep.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2014 23:10:08 GMT -5
UF is not more talented than FSU overall. I was also at the game and without Alex Holston the game would have been over much quicker. Maybe UF's outsides just had a below average game, but judging from this game FSU is definitely a more talented overall team. I think people confuse athleticism and talent. UF may have better athletes, but that does not mean better talent. They (Florida) absolutely have more talented kids IMO. They just don't have as many experienced kids.
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Post by gatorbob on Sept 4, 2014 23:44:52 GMT -5
Just got back to Gainesville. All good points above! The Noles executed a little better and blocked a lot better. Too many errors for UF to win. I have a semi- serious observation and a real question. Mosher, the FSU Libero seems to have a serious endocrine problem. How many sweat times out can one player get away with before the officials intercede? Real times out are for, among other things, disrupting the flow of the opponents server and game. Everybody was sweating by the end of game four, but prior to that, Mosher called for a towel every time UF got a couple of serves in or a couple of points. She has done this before. Any thoughts? Are there any remedies if the officials believe it to be a "tactic"?
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Post by herdmentality on Sept 5, 2014 0:54:00 GMT -5
I think Wise would be an awesome coach to play for. Really? It's not anything like it looks like on TV.
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Post by volleyguy on Sept 5, 2014 1:59:37 GMT -5
I think people confuse athleticism and talent. UF may have better athletes, but that does not mean better talent. They (Florida) absolutely have more talented kids IMO. They just don't have as many experienced kids. The problem is that Florida, like Texas, recruit great athletes with decent talent, and consistently fail to develop that talent (by top D1 standards.) The coaches--Wise, Elliott, Boos--are great people but they're missing a little something in their training and development. Some might argue that Texas' recent success doesn't merit such a statement, but realistically they could have won 2 or 3 more championships in the past few years.
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Post by montechello on Sept 5, 2014 2:27:19 GMT -5
Who's the career-leading underperformer among major-conference coaches? Mary Wise? UF has been in that category for a long time. Always a loaded team, but not quite getting it done, especially considering the resources. Just good enough to stay employed and wait 'til next year. John Cook might be in the running.
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Post by Thrill of the 'ville on Sept 5, 2014 5:01:08 GMT -5
Just got back to Gainesville. All good points above! The Noles executed a little better and blocked a lot better. Too many errors for UF to win. I have a semi- serious observation and a real question. Mosher, the FSU Libero seems to have a serious endocrine problem. How many sweat times out can one player get away with before the officials intercede? Real times out are for, among other things, disrupting the flow of the opponents server and game. Everybody was sweating by the end of game four, but prior to that, Mosher called for a towel every time UF got a couple of serves in or a couple of points. She has done this before. Any thoughts? Are there any remedies if the officials believe it to be a "tactic"? I've called FSU on that many times over the last few years and took a lashing on here for it for being a homer.
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Post by alpacaone on Sept 5, 2014 6:19:45 GMT -5
PSU does a good job at that too, and the time taken for drying the home team's floor takes a lot longer to get done. It's called home court advantage.
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Post by sevb on Sept 5, 2014 6:28:54 GMT -5
I think Wise would be an awesome coach to play for. Really? It's not anything like it looks like on TV. Are you sharing from experience... Or just a dislike of Coach Wise?
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Post by dorothymantooth on Sept 5, 2014 6:51:57 GMT -5
They (Florida) absolutely have more talented kids IMO. They just don't have as many experienced kids. The problem is that Florida, like Texas, recruit great athletes with decent talent, and consistently fail to develop that talent (by top D1 standards.) The coaches--Wise, Elliott, Boos--are great people but they're missing a little something in their training and development. Some might argue that Texas' recent success doesn't merit such a statement, but realistically they could have won 2 or 3 more championships in the past few years. I think it's really about how people want to define "talent". Athletic ability and talent, to me are two different things, although athleticism is certainly going to impact how talented a kid is. If a kid touches 10'4, is explosive etc..... that player seems to be more "talented" than someone who is just a better player, or more experienced. Talent "to me" is all the things that contribute to how well a player can play.I would consider a players experience as one more thing that would define how talented she was. As I said, it really comes down to how people want to define talent, or better talent. I don't see this as someone is right or wrong, but probably just defining differently. John Stockton IMO was more talented than Dominique Wilkins, and that's about 4 levels difference in athletic ability. Toughness, will, IQ, competitiveness, will determine how good (talented) a player is in the same way as athleticism will. For a third time, IMO.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Sept 5, 2014 6:59:27 GMT -5
Who's the career-leading underperformer among major-conference coaches? Mary Wise? UF has been in that category for a long time. Always a loaded team, but not quite getting it done, especially considering the resources. Just good enough to stay employed and wait 'til next year. John Cook might be in the running. I'm sorry but if you are making this statement, you really don't know what you are talking about. Cook has done ok for himself with 5 FF's, two titles, and a runner-up. Mary Wise also probably has better job security than any coach in the country. If you wanna say Florida has underachieved (in your opinion) that's one thing, but to say she is doing "just" good enough to stay employed, and than you want to lump Cook into that, respectfully, you are out of your depth (IMO)
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