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Post by elevationvb on Oct 26, 2014 15:15:16 GMT -5
austintatious, you sound paranoid. You need to be punch-f|sted in your vag|na repeatedly. Now bend over and spread your cheeks boy. Tell us again how you found this site through your google search.
I'm wondering why you felt it was necessary to create a new account to post something so dumb about Texas playing 16 matches instead of 20?
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Post by elevationvb on Oct 26, 2014 15:17:03 GMT -5
This thread quickly became a funny little soap opera.....LOL I do believe Texas is overrated in the polls at this point in the season. I feel they are a top 2 team in talent, but at this point in the season are a 5-10 team in execution. I am a Texas fan, but have been waiting for this type of loss. I am glad it happened now rather than late in the year so real corrections / adjustments can be made and there is time to recover. I couldn't agree more if I would have posted this. All season it's been evident that we have the talent but just not seeming to gel properly. I'll say that Texas will undoubtedly never be a great passing team but they never struggled this season any where near as much as they did against OU. Amy Neal needs to get some credit in my eyes for how she has steadied the back row Victoria shouldn't not be starting whether it's her defense or offense. Just not consistent enough. Doesn't it really point to our lack of depth at the 2nd OH?
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Post by Longhorn20 on Oct 26, 2014 15:19:59 GMT -5
I wish we could get a look at Collins in the 5-1 with Dalton at L2. Not saying it would work, and I know Collins is only 5-6/5-7 but I think it would significantly improve our ball control. Dalton would have a Sarah Shaw type role.
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Post by Hookemhasbeen on Oct 26, 2014 15:23:35 GMT -5
elevationvb it really does and for a team that's been raved about their depth, it's funny that they aren't exceedingly better than other teams in depth at OH and I would even argue setter. I'm not talking down on either of our setters but I think each has some big flaws. Chloe has great location but is just too much of a liability at front row. On the other hand, Nicole can play great front row but her set location is nothing that Chloe's is and her sets to the right pin are always too far off the net and middle sets always too low.
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Post by Hookemhasbeen on Oct 26, 2014 15:28:27 GMT -5
It's interesting to me that when things got tough for Texas, Elliott went with a 5-1 with Dalton front row because he also left Khat in to play back RS. I liked her back there and think her defense is solid and love the attack option she could give when Nicole is setting from the front. If there was a bright side to this win its that its coming right before Texas has 2 exhibition games vs the Chinese club team. I wouldn't be surprised to see the horns play with the 5-1 some more. I'm a big fan of Paulina but she has yet to really hit her stride and I'm just not sure she is putting the numbers up coach Elliott is wanting. I could be wrong about her, but might as well mess around with a 5-1 in games that don't matter for record and see what comes of it. Funny that changing your offense around should even be debated this late in the season but per usual with Texas.
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Post by vbprisoner on Oct 26, 2014 15:49:30 GMT -5
elevationvb it really does and for a team that's been raved about their depth, it's funny that they aren't exceedingly better than other teams in depth at OH and I would even argue setter. I'm not talking down on either of our setters but I think each has some big flaws. Chloe has great location but is just too much of a liability at front row. On the other hand, Nicole can play great front row but her set location is nothing that Chloe's is and her sets to the right pin are always too far off the net and middle sets always too low. I think the staff may have thought Tiffany Baker would make a full recovery and she would have been the OH2, but she is not even close to her freshman and soph. abilities at this point in time. I do like the idea of trying Dalton at OH2 because she would stabilize the passing, or at least provide better passing. If the passing were 2.5+ then the setting would not be an issue because you would have Eckerman, Bell, Chi, and McCage getting quality sets and not many balls would come back..... so having a 5'7" setter on front would not matter that much.
With all the great setters that were 6'+ over the last two years coming out of Texas you would think Elliott would have been able to nab one of them.
DISCLAIMER: These are just my opinions......I do not know anyone on the staff, have inside information, know anybody that is good friends with the players, or claim to be the Longhorn VB source of truth.
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Post by baywatcher on Oct 26, 2014 15:57:33 GMT -5
Elliot recruited Collins years before she matriculated. Hard to get another setter when one already recruited. Collins is good Andalusia still take Texas to the promised land.
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Post by Phaedrus on Oct 26, 2014 15:58:34 GMT -5
this was the most exciting match I've seen all season. Exciting if you are an OU fan!!!
OU's coach is something else isn't he?
What a contrast in coaching styles between him and Elliott? I presume they don't care for each other because they barely acknowledged each other in the pre-match hand shake. They are not close, but they are both professionals about it. But saying they don't care about each other is really reading way too much into it. Realize they are colleagues within the conference so they meet quite a bit and have to work with each other on behalf of the conference and Division I volleyball.
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Post by bigfan on Oct 26, 2014 18:34:36 GMT -5
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Post by Mocha on Oct 26, 2014 18:47:40 GMT -5
So much for the "VT experts."
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 26, 2014 18:58:25 GMT -5
Well, I was watching the re-airing of the Texas/OU match on ESPN3. I was surprised to see Paulina Prieto-Cerame playing for Texas as I had not heard that she left Penn State. So I looked online to get info on her transfer and was directed to a thread on this forum. That's how I found VT. I'm sorry your team lost; you don't have to be so butt-hurt about it. I found Volleytalk by searching for a discussion after a big match, so it's not unreasonable. Unfortunately the anonymous culture of VT does lead to a fair number of sock puppets, especially when someone wants to start flaming about something.
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Post by southie on Oct 26, 2014 19:19:43 GMT -5
Watched the first two sets. Texas started out so well, but so many errors just killed any kind of rhythm they were trying to establish. I told myself they didn't deserve to win the match if their focus wasn't better in the subsequent sets. Not sure if Wednesday's record-setting home winning streak had some sort of effect as it seemed a milestone of sorts was reached, but not really anything significant as far as this season is concerned.
I'm never happy about a loss, especially a sweep, against an unranked opponent, or to an arch-rival like OU and ending record home winning streak and knocking us from the unbeaten. But, it doesn't end the chance of a conference or national championship, so the season can still continue.
If you go with a 5-1 with Collins setting and Dalton at OH2, what do you do if Collins struggles in the middle of a set? No other setter on the roster. How would even conduct practices with only one setter?
If you go with a 5-1 with Collins setting, Dalton at RS and Bell at OH2, I guess that helps in some ways but hurts in others. Many of same concerns I listed above.
The "lack of depth" at OH is a result of Baker not being 100%, and obviously, using the 6'2 offense where 4 instead of 3 pin hitters are needed. Getting Paulina late has helped the pin hitter depth, no doubt; otherwise, we'd have one less hitter. Amy not being healthy obviously hurts the depth, as she and Pilar have sort of bailed each other out all season long.
What's the solution? I don't know. Hopefully, getting everyone healthy is a start.
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Post by elevationvb on Oct 26, 2014 19:34:38 GMT -5
Exciting if you are an OU fan!!!
OU's coach is something else isn't he?
What a contrast in coaching styles between him and Elliott? I presume they don't care for each other because they barely acknowledged each other in the pre-match hand shake. They are not close, but they are both professionals about it. But saying they don't care about each other is really reading way too much into it. Realize they are colleagues within the conference so they meet quite a bit and have to work with each other on behalf of the conference and Division I volleyball. I don't know - Elliott often hugs the other opposing coaches when they meet at mid court after intros!
My guess is Elliott doesn't care for the antics of OU's coach. I know many don't care for him. He seems passionate to me and I liked the way he handled his players during the match.
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Post by elevationvb on Oct 26, 2014 19:45:03 GMT -5
Watched the first two sets. Texas started out so well, but so many errors just killed any kind of rhythm they were trying to establish. I told myself they didn't deserve to win the match if their focus wasn't better in the subsequent sets. Not sure if Wednesday's record-setting home winning streak had some sort of effect as it seemed a milestone of sorts was reached, but not really anything significant as far as this season is concerned. I'm never happy about a loss, especially a sweep, against an unranked opponent, or to an arch-rival like OU and ending record home winning streak and knocking us from the unbeaten. But, it doesn't end the chance of a conference or national championship, so the season can still continue. If you go with a 5-1 with Collins setting and Dalton at OH2, what do you do if Collins struggles in the middle of a set? No other setter on the roster. How would even conduct practices with only one setter? If you go with a 5-1 with Collins setting, Dalton at RS and Bell at OH2, I guess that helps in some ways but hurts in others. Many of same concerns I listed above. The "lack of depth" at OH is a result of Baker not being 100%, and obviously, using the 6'2 offense where 4 instead of 3 pin hitters are needed. Getting Paulina late has helped the pin hitter depth, no doubt; otherwise, we'd have one less hitter. Amy not being healthy obviously hurts the depth, as she and Pilar have sort of bailed each other out all season long. What's the solution? I don't know. Hopefully, getting everyone healthy is a start. Looks to me that Elliott sitting Neal for her to be ready for post season indicates he plans to stick with what he has gone with all season.
He did switch to the 5-1 at the end of set 3, but not sure if that was related to the number of subs used up.
Don't know if we have a freshman in 2015 who can take the place of Eckerman or Bell. My guess is Prieto moves to OH next season. I don't think Baker is going to be a factor at Texas.
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Post by vbprisoner on Oct 26, 2014 20:04:55 GMT -5
Watched the first two sets. Texas started out so well, but so many errors just killed any kind of rhythm they were trying to establish. I told myself they didn't deserve to win the match if their focus wasn't better in the subsequent sets. Not sure if Wednesday's record-setting home winning streak had some sort of effect as it seemed a milestone of sorts was reached, but not really anything significant as far as this season is concerned. I'm never happy about a loss, especially a sweep, against an unranked opponent, or to an arch-rival like OU and ending record home winning streak and knocking us from the unbeaten. But, it doesn't end the chance of a conference or national championship, so the season can still continue. If you go with a 5-1 with Collins setting and Dalton at OH2, what do you do if Collins struggles in the middle of a set? No other setter on the roster. How would even conduct practices with only one setter? If you go with a 5-1 with Collins setting, Dalton at RS and Bell at OH2, I guess that helps in some ways but hurts in others. Many of same concerns I listed above. The "lack of depth" at OH is a result of Baker not being 100%, and obviously, using the 6'2 offense where 4 instead of 3 pin hitters are needed. Getting Paulina late has helped the pin hitter depth, no doubt; otherwise, we'd have one less hitter. Amy not being healthy obviously hurts the depth, as she and Pilar have sort of bailed each other out all season long. What's the solution? I don't know. Hopefully, getting everyone healthy is a start. Looks to me that Elliott sitting Neal for her to be ready for post season indicates he plans to stick with what he has gone with all season.
He did switch to the 5-1 at the end of set 3, but not sure if that was related to the number of subs used up.
Don't know if we have a freshman in 2015 who can take the place of Eckerman or Bell. My guess is Prieto moves to OH next season. I don't think Baker is going to be a factor at Texas. Both will be hard to replace, but I think Bell will be harder to replace because there are two OH/LS coming in - Bedart-Ghani and Micaya White along with another MH. Bell is a terminator, blocker, and she is very animated on the court to get her teammates going, and can play RS, MH, and if given chance OH. Eckerman is a terminator, with a great serve. Bedart-Ghani is/will be a top 5 prepvolleyball senior and may be able to slide into Eckerman's role.
Unfortunately, I think you may be right regarding Baker as she may never fully recover from her injuries which is a shame because if healthy she would have made Texas really lethal this year and been a nice transition for next year.
We will be good for middles next year with Chi and McCage which will make life a little better.
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