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Post by badgerbreath on Jul 21, 2015 21:40:09 GMT -5
Man...We can barely figure out who starts at outside this fall. Now we're talking about whose starting the following Fall? All I can say is that with Haggerty, a year of experience for baby badgers, and only losing Morey, the Badgers look like they could be really strong in 2016, with some serious depth.
But, frankly, I don't want to contemplate Carlini's last year until I'm forced to.
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Post by lucky5 on Jul 21, 2015 22:04:44 GMT -5
Right now it seems like Haggerty is a lock for 2016 starter but that could change. Bates/gillis fight for the second spot. Haggerty would have to earn it but i think she will. Well......between Gillis, Bates, and Haggerty, someone will end up opposite..... And it sure won't be Bates!!!!! Just my thoughts
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2015 22:13:01 GMT -5
Proven against pretty inferior competition or not, just because someone is named an HM AA in one season does NOT mean they are, by definition, better than an incoming freshman. As unproven as Bates was against B1G-level competition, Kriskova was also unproven against that level. Also, you're pretty mistaken regarding the timeline of her injury/transfer. Since we seem to be losing the point here, you're misremembering that several posters thought that Bates would start in 2014. Wisconsin homers didn't think Morales would lose her spot. Several other posters did. Wisconsin homers didn't realize the extent of Kriskova's knee troubles or how that would impact her ability to compete for a spot in the lineup. Several other posters did. And again, I repeat, never said she was better. If you can show me where I said that, I'll eat all the BS you throw out there. I am a WI homer and I thought Deme would lose her starting position. You had no insight into Kriskova's knee injury, but it's nice to think you're in "the know." Regardless, I am still not saying Kriskova is better than Bates. However, even the A-10 and tourney competition VCU faced is better than most clubs Bates faced. Kriskova was putting up insane numbers against all competition. My only assertion is that is "proven," although not to the extent she would had been had she played in a major conference. I guess we have different definitions of "insane numbers," and differ in our ability to apply context to our thoughts.
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Post by SportyBucky on Jul 21, 2015 22:20:50 GMT -5
And again, I repeat, never said she was better. If you can show me where I said that, I'll eat all the BS you throw out there. I am a WI homer and I thought Deme would lose her starting position. You had no insight into Kriskova's knee injury, but it's nice to think you're in "the know." Regardless, I am still not saying Kriskova is better than Bates. However, even the A-10 and tourney competition VCU faced is better than most clubs Bates faced. Kriskova was putting up insane numbers against all competition. My only assertion is that is "proven," although not to the extent she would had been had she played in a major conference. I guess we have different definitions of "insane numbers," and differ in our ability to apply context to our thoughts. Thank god for that. You are game for any argument no matter how stupid or baseless the commentary. By any standards, almost 5 kills a set is insane. Now how do I block people on here again!?! ----------------------------------------------- Kriskova, the 2013 Atlantic 10 Conference Player of the Year, is just the second player in program history to earn an All-Region honor, following Martina Samadan last season. Two others, Ludmila Francescatto (2005, 2006) and Michala Kvapilova (2009) garnered All-Region Honorable Mention previously. This season, Kriskova moved from right side to outside hitter and became the focal point of first-year coach Jody Rogers up-tempo offense. The results were historic. Kriskova averaged 4.83 kills per set, which ranked fifth nationally and shattered the previous record of 4.46, set by Francescatto in 2006. Her 623 kills this season also surpassed Francescatto's program best of 549. Kriskova hit .269 and served up an A-10 leading 50 aces. Her 78 blocks were fourth-most on the team. She ranked fourth in the country in points per set (5.57). She also moved into 10th place on VCU's career kills list (884). In 34 matches in 2013, Kriskova failed to record double-digit kills just once. She topped 20 kills 12 times, and her 29 kills on Oct. 22 in a win over William & Mary were the most by a Ram since 2007. The 6-foot-3 veteran of the Slovakian National Team ripped a match-high 21 kills in the A-10 Championship Match Nov. 24 in Washington, D.C. For her efforts, she was named to the A-10 All-Tournament Team. Kriskova was named A-10 Offensive Player of the Week five times during the season, and she was selected to the All-Tournament Team at all four of the Rams' non-conference tournaments. Kriskova was named MVP of the season-opening IUPUI Hampton Inn Invitational. The sophomore led VCU to a five-set win at Tennessee on Sept. 14 – the program's first victory over an SEC foe – with 28 kills and 33.5 points, the most by a Ram since 2002.
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Post by lucky5 on Jul 21, 2015 22:31:34 GMT -5
It's the A-10!!!!!!
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Post by bucky415 on Jul 21, 2015 23:13:21 GMT -5
Remember the debate over Lauren Wicinski? I am not sure whether Kriskova is as good as Wicinski was, but making that type of transition is certainly possible.
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Post by chatchu-off moksri on Jul 21, 2015 23:22:34 GMT -5
I just want season to start so we get some answers about who will be starting......
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Post by badgerbreath on Jul 21, 2015 23:48:02 GMT -5
These arguments can go on forever. Yes...Kriskova had great numbers overall, but, yes, in a inferior league. She did not have a spectacular attack percentage and she didn't do that well against the big teams when she faced em, like UW (0.140) or Kentucky (0.000 with 17 errors). Maybe that's to be expected given how VCU ran their offense -- it looks like she she took an ungodly fraction of her team's attacks. I'm guessing the other teams knew exactly where the Rams were going almost all of the time. So, we know she is probably not the second coming of Karsta Lowe, but in the badger offense she will be part of a balanced attack with Carlini setting. That will free her up to be a lot more efficient, although she will get a lot fewer kills.
All in all I think it's a wash. In the end, she may have a hard time replicating Court's numbers at RS, but I fully expect her to match or surpass her previous efficiency stats, even playing in the B1G. The thing that gives me confidence is that Sheffield saw her play up close against his team in 2013, and afterward decided to take her in without hesitation. I think that tells you something about what he thinks of her.
UW website still has her listed as an OH on the roster. Does that mean anything at this stage?
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Post by rainbowbadger on Jul 22, 2015 5:30:34 GMT -5
Not really. They had Court listed as a OH. The only person I ever remember them listing as a RS was Jules, which is likely because there was no way Jules was playing on the left.
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Post by SportyBucky on Jul 22, 2015 9:08:38 GMT -5
These arguments can go on forever. Yes...Kriskova had great numbers overall, but, yes, in a inferior league. She did not have a spectacular attack percentage and she didn't do that well against the big teams when she faced em, like UW (0.140) or Kentucky (0.000 with 17 errors). Maybe that's to be expected given how VCU ran their offense -- it looks like she she took an ungodly fraction of her team's attacks. I'm guessing the other teams knew exactly where the Rams were going almost all of the time. So, we know she is probably not the second coming of Karsta Lowe, but in the badger offense she will be part of a balanced attack with Carlini setting. That will free her up to be a lot more efficient, although she will get a lot fewer kills. All in all I think it's a wash. In the end, she may have a hard time replicating Court's numbers at RS, but I fully expect her to match or surpass her previous efficiency stats, even playing in the B1G. The thing that gives me confidence is that Sheffield saw her play up close against his team in 2013, and afterward decided to take her in without hesitation. I think that tells you something about what he thinks of her. UW website still has her listed as an OH on the roster. Does that mean anything at this stage? Don't you think with a balanced attack, other go-to hitters and an amazing setter her numbers could likely approach Court's?
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Post by rainbowbadger on Jul 22, 2015 9:09:44 GMT -5
Things I'm interested in: - What's going to happen in 2015.
- Which of our 2015s, if any, is a "dark horse" who will step up and surprise everyone.
- How our 2016s and 2017s are doing in prep/club.
- What the 2018 landscape looks like.
Things I'm pretty sure of: - Haggerty is a top 2016 pin hitter. I don't care if she's ranked above or below the top 2016 middles and setters. I care that she's a top OH.
- ME Dodge is a baller, and she's gonna challenge MacDonald like heck to replace Morey.
Conversations that are kinda ridiculous: - Who thought what about Bates/Kriskova/Morales in 2014.
- Trying to predict a 2016 lineup when we haven't even started the 2015 season yet.
- Which of our 2015s is going to transfer.
This last one particularly irks me. Let's be real. We're deep in pin hitters over the next few years. Some kids are content to contribute behind the scenes, and other kids really feel like they need to be playing in matches in order to be satisfied. Each of our hitters likely falls at a different place on that spectrum, but I don't know who falls where, and neither does anyone beyond their family, coaches, and close friends. Heck, the players themselves might not ever know where they fall. So I will not be surprised if one of our 2015s decides to transfer in order to get more playing time. That's just where NCAA volleyball is these days. But I think it does these kids a huge disservice to start talking about that in the context of specific players who haven't played a single point of college ball.
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Post by Wiswell on Jul 22, 2015 9:13:50 GMT -5
I haven't posted much, because there is not much left to say about the upcoming season (not that this post adds to it). This is probably why people have drifted to talking about Haggerty, the 2016 season, etc. I JUST WANT THE SEASON TO START!!!!! Which is in 37 days! (or, if you count the scrimmage - 1 month from today!!!!!) Can we do a count down feature? Any player ever have 37 digs or 37 kills in a match? I'll take a look. But first, the summary page. Lays plain the newcomers, doesn't it? grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/wis/sports/w-volley/auto_pdf/2015-16/misc_non_event/QuickFacts.pdf
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Post by Wiswell on Jul 22, 2015 9:27:20 GMT -5
Ok, here we go with 37, found in total kills (what a surprise, the 2000 team):
4 sets: 37 Jenny Maastricht vs. Minnesota, 10/28/00 5 sets: 37 Sherisa Livingston vs. Ohio State, 9/29/00
I'll start hunting for "36" stats tomorrow.
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Post by SportyBucky on Jul 22, 2015 9:40:49 GMT -5
Things I'm interested in: - What's going to happen in 2015.
- Which of our 2015s, if any, is a "dark horse" who will step up and surprise everyone.
- How our 2016s and 2017s are doing in prep/club.
- What the 2018 landscape looks like.
Things I'm pretty sure of: - Haggerty is a top 2016 pin hitter. I don't care if she's ranked above or below the top 2016 middles and setters. I care that she's a top OH.
- ME Dodge is a baller, and she's gonna challenge MacDonald like heck to replace Morey.
Conversations that are kinda ridiculous: - Who thought what about Bates/Kriskova/Morales in 2014.
- Trying to predict a 2016 lineup when we haven't even started the 2015 season yet.
- Which of our 2015s is going to transfer.
This last one particularly irks me. Let's be real. We're deep in pin hitters over the next few years. Some kids are content to contribute behind the scenes, and other kids really feel like they need to be playing in matches in order to be satisfied. Each of our hitters likely falls at a different place on that spectrum, but I don't know who falls where, and neither does anyone beyond their family, coaches, and close friends. Heck, the players themselves might not ever know where they fall. So I will not be surprised if one of our 2015s decides to transfer in order to get more playing time. That's just where NCAA volleyball is these days. But I think it does these kids a huge disservice to start talking about that in the context of specific players who haven't played a single point of college ball. If others find it interesting or worthy of conversation, so be it. Who are you to criticize the conversation? Direct the conversation to a topic in which you're interested and maybe, just maybe, the focus of the board will change. Criticize those topics and it just sounds condescending. Ignore them or pursue your own tact, but come on...why call other's conversation ridiculous?
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Post by rainbowbadger on Jul 22, 2015 10:15:54 GMT -5
Things I'm interested in: - What's going to happen in 2015.
- Which of our 2015s, if any, is a "dark horse" who will step up and surprise everyone.
- How our 2016s and 2017s are doing in prep/club.
- What the 2018 landscape looks like.
Things I'm pretty sure of: - Haggerty is a top 2016 pin hitter. I don't care if she's ranked above or below the top 2016 middles and setters. I care that she's a top OH.
- ME Dodge is a baller, and she's gonna challenge MacDonald like heck to replace Morey.
Conversations that are kinda ridiculous: - Who thought what about Bates/Kriskova/Morales in 2014.
- Trying to predict a 2016 lineup when we haven't even started the 2015 season yet.
- Which of our 2015s is going to transfer.
This last one particularly irks me. Let's be real. We're deep in pin hitters over the next few years. Some kids are content to contribute behind the scenes, and other kids really feel like they need to be playing in matches in order to be satisfied. Each of our hitters likely falls at a different place on that spectrum, but I don't know who falls where, and neither does anyone beyond their family, coaches, and close friends. Heck, the players themselves might not ever know where they fall. So I will not be surprised if one of our 2015s decides to transfer in order to get more playing time. That's just where NCAA volleyball is these days. But I think it does these kids a huge disservice to start talking about that in the context of specific players who haven't played a single point of college ball. If others find it interesting or worthy of conversation, so be it. Who are you to criticize the conversation? Direct the conversation to a topic in which you're interested and maybe, just maybe, the focus of the board will change. Criticize those topics and it just sounds condescending. Ignore them or pursue your own tact, but come on...why call other's conversation ridiculous? I think others have tried to redirect the conversation, but it's become apparent that you guys just like sniping at each other and currently seem to be fixated on who was smarter 15 months ago.
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