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Post by Not Me on Dec 22, 2014 22:45:02 GMT -5
If you read the article it says that the AVCA sends their specs to the NCAA which include them in the RFP sent to the cities.
Interesting that the national soccer coaches meeting they mention brings in 4x the number of coaches. Not sure how they can say the avca is doing such a great job when they are dwarfed by other associations.
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Post by bc2016 on Dec 22, 2014 22:45:45 GMT -5
When all of those considerations are added together and the final numbers are put together that's when they decide on which convention city to go to. But I suspect that they're not looking at the top-tier cities obviously and I think they are going to the second and third tier cities because of the cost. Remember that the convention profits: registration, exhibitors cost, probably some of the gate at the final four, hotel kickbacks, discounts from the convention center, pays for 40% of the yearly budget of the AVCA. One more consideration is geography. I personally enjoyed Seattle, a lot, but I know people missed last year because it took a long time to get to Seattle from the East coast, all the while traveling so close to the holidays. Hence the final fours in the Midwest. I happen to think Seattle is a "top-tier" city. I mean, it's not London or Tokyo or New York, but it's not frickin' Oklahoma City, either. Or closer to center of the country so more can attend. Indy/Chicago would be great.
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Post by Phaedrus on Dec 22, 2014 22:49:12 GMT -5
When all of those considerations are added together and the final numbers are put together that's when they decide on which convention city to go to. But I suspect that they're not looking at the top-tier cities obviously and I think they are going to the second and third tier cities because of the cost. Remember that the convention profits: registration, exhibitors cost, probably some of the gate at the final four, hotel kickbacks, discounts from the convention center, pays for 40% of the yearly budget of the AVCA. One more consideration is geography. I personally enjoyed Seattle, a lot, but I know people missed last year because it took a long time to get to Seattle from the East coast, all the while traveling so close to the holidays. Hence the final fours in the Midwest. I happen to think Seattle is a "top-tier" city. I mean, it's not London or Tokyo or New York, but it's not frickin' Oklahoma City, either. The tier designation comes from the tourism industry.
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Post by Not Me on Dec 22, 2014 22:49:32 GMT -5
OKC is not that bad you guys, you just don't know where to go. It would be nice to have it in bigger/unique cities though. Seattle was great last year. How about LA, Portland, Dallas, Las Vegas, NYC, Miami, etc? Cities have to bid on the event. They have to want it, they have to have the facilities, and they have to meet the requirements of the NCAA proposal (including the AVCA and PAVO) Some cities might sound like a good idea, but they have no interest. Doesn't the NCAA avoid Las Vegas for all sports?
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Post by mikegarrison on Dec 22, 2014 22:52:09 GMT -5
Doesn't the NCAA avoid Las Vegas for all sports? The NCAA will not hold a championship event in Nevada.
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Post by blastingsand on Dec 22, 2014 23:08:17 GMT -5
OKC is not that bad you guys, you just don't know where to go. It would be nice to have it in bigger/unique cities though. Seattle was great last year. How about LA, Portland, Dallas, Las Vegas, NYC, Miami, etc? Cities have to bid on the event. They have to want it, they have to have the facilities, and they have to meet the requirements of the NCAA proposal (including the AVCA and PAVO) Some cities might sound like a good idea, but they have no interest. Doesn't the NCAA avoid Las Vegas for all sports? The Pac-12 did somehow get their conference basketball championship there.
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Post by mikegarrison on Dec 22, 2014 23:08:26 GMT -5
I happen to think Seattle is a "top-tier" city. I mean, it's not London or Tokyo or New York, but it's not frickin' Oklahoma City, either. The tier designation comes from the tourism industry. Says who? Seriously, everything I've seen says Seattle is a top-20 convention/tourism city in the US. And if the Final Four can be hosted here, why not other such cities? (Granted, December is not the time most people visit Seattle, so the Final Four is "off-season" for here.)
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Post by mikegarrison on Dec 22, 2014 23:08:57 GMT -5
Cities have to bid on the event. They have to want it, they have to have the facilities, and they have to meet the requirements of the NCAA proposal (including the AVCA and PAVO) Some cities might sound like a good idea, but they have no interest. Doesn't the NCAA avoid Las Vegas for all sports? The Pac-12 did somehow get their conference basketball championship there. Conferences can do what they like.
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Post by azvb on Dec 22, 2014 23:16:49 GMT -5
Why not in sunny warm Phoenix Arizona? But then again everyone else is here so it maybe expensive to find a room. I would go to it. Love the sunshine I have been there several times for work in December, and I never thought it was all that amazing. Phoenix just doesn't seem like a city to me. More like the world's biggest suburb. Phoenix not really an amazing city, Mike, but you can't beat the weather in December. Tourist stuff pretty expensive. Probably $200+ for a hotel room that will cost you $75 in August.
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Post by mikegarrison on Dec 22, 2014 23:23:13 GMT -5
I have been there several times for work in December, and I never thought it was all that amazing. Phoenix just doesn't seem like a city to me. More like the world's biggest suburb. Phoenix not really an amazing city, Mike, but you can't beat the weather in December. Tourist stuff pretty expensive. Probably $200+ for a hotel room that will cost you $75 in August. I've been there in August, too. I liked it better than in December. In December, Phoenix is a bunch of strip malls and golf courses (and some good Mexican restaurants) in non-descript weather. At least in the summer the weather is not non-descript! I'd rather live in San Diego for the winter than Phoenix.
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Post by Phaedrus on Dec 22, 2014 23:23:30 GMT -5
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Post by azvb on Dec 22, 2014 23:32:10 GMT -5
Phoenix not really an amazing city, Mike, but you can't beat the weather in December. Tourist stuff pretty expensive. Probably $200+ for a hotel room that will cost you $75 in August. I've been there in August, too. I liked it better than in December. In December, Phoenix is a bunch of strip malls and golf courses (and some good Mexican restaurants) in non-descript weather. At least in the summer the weather is not non-descript! I'd rather live in San Diego for the winter than Phoenix. Wouldn't we all rather live in San Diego? My dream someday.
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Post by MyNameHere on Dec 23, 2014 1:06:46 GMT -5
The Pac-12 did somehow get their conference basketball championship there. Conferences can do what they like. The WAC volleyball tournament was in Las Vegas or Reno in 11 of the last 17 years. So yes, conferences are free to do as they wish, despite the NCAA having a prohibition on hosting championship events in Nevada.
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Post by ay2013 on Dec 23, 2014 2:27:26 GMT -5
the NCAA has a boycott on Nevada? lame sauce. I think the state of Nevada should sue for discrimination.
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Post by Babar on Dec 23, 2014 4:04:23 GMT -5
My impression is that the AVCA does have some input with regard to potential championship sites, and the AVCA is interested in having a convention center and hotels that are less expensive then larger cities. I was not at the convention so I don't know what Kathy said, but she was certainly very positive about when OKC was announced. Madison, Omaha, Seattle, Lousiaville, Sacremento and others have done a good job filling the arena. Cleveland, Richmond, San Diego, and others not so much.
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