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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 21:53:14 GMT -5
okay, so let's assume there are 5 teams each year with equal talent (out of 320 that is a pretty reasonable request no?). If Rose did NOT out coach them (including Jerritt), what is the probability that 6 out of the 10 years ONE team would win? Even with 4-5 teams it is still in the thousands. It is not attributable to chance. Now if there were only 2 or three teams each year that had the same talent, you could get into that this past decade is because of variance. There is no rational way of arguing that he did not out coach the rest of the contenders. You know better than me, how many teams have similar talent to start the year? Well I already acknowledged Rose is the best coach in volleyball, so yes he is going to out coach (prepare) people. That wasnt the point however. People were saying Texas had the best talent and "shouldve" won. I ask those folks this, "if you thought Texas should win that year, did you have them picked to win before the season, or FF?" If you didn't ( I don't know who would have given PSU's talent/experience) you couldnt say that because they were up 2-0 they should have won. PSU was loaded with talent, Texas did not take the floor with flat out better talent. I am trying to make a point. IF (see that word IF) there are only a couple teams that have a similar talent level of PSU and IF UT is one of them, then yes someone could make an argument of out coaching. Since you know a lot about the teams you could do a back of the envelop to see IF this theory even passes the sniff test. You could just say "rose is incredible but jerritt is / is not underperforming because he won xx years ago and considering his team is on par with XX other teams each year it is / is not that surprising that a repeat has not happened. See what I meant?
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Post by elevationvb on Mar 25, 2015 21:53:50 GMT -5
Congratulations for demonstrating you know little about 2 subjects,
Texas Volleyball & Texas Politics.
PS - Micky Haley and Wendy Davis say hey.
I knew that would get your goat. I guess I should have put /sarc after it. No need for the personal attack. I have not commented on your intelligence. No need to comment on mine without a source or citation to support your assertion. Stay classy. Thanks Caputo.
And yes Wendy says hey about Texas turning blue.
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Post by vbprisoner on Mar 25, 2015 21:59:18 GMT -5
Lexi Sun never considered Stanford as what I have been informed. I don't know if it was grades or what. Anyway, this decision of going to Texas is a shocker to me. I was expecting she will go to USC. You would have to think any top recruit that is 2017 and beyond would have to consider long and hard about committing to USC because they might think how much longer will Haley actually be coaching? In 2017 he will be 73, a 2017 recruit might think....... will he still be coaching for my 4 years of college? That is a valid concern. Look at the fall off in top level talent Joe Paterno and Bobby Bowden got when they were in their mid 70s, and just a decade prior they were consistently perennial top 5 recruiting classes.
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Post by vbprisoner on Mar 25, 2015 22:26:58 GMT -5
Texas is a great program, but I do wonder about elite players wanting to play in a conference that isn't the Big Ten or Pac-12. If I'm an elite player, I want to maximize my potential by facing great competition night in and night out during the season. UT players get better competition in practice than during league play (for the most part). That's not to take away from UT's achievements, but I think that's in part why they come up short in the postseason more often than they should. On the other hand, their postseason accomplishments are nothing but admirable; I'm just considering their results with respect to their roster talent. Texas will get top level talent regardless of conference for several reasons:
1. The State of Texas is, and will continue to be, a hot-bed for girls club vball. Usually the top 4-5 players in the state are in the top 25 players rated nationally. Most of the top players in the state dream about playing for UT so they will always get 2 or 3 of the top 5 players in the state annually.
2. Elliott is one of the best recruiters in the country and historically lands a top out of state recruit (usually California).
3. UT has a top 10 overall Athletic program (facilities, funding, fan support, etc.), and volleyball facilities are great.
4. Great Academics (not quite Stanford)
5. Austin is a pretty cool town.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Mar 25, 2015 22:45:06 GMT -5
Texas is a great program, but I do wonder about elite players wanting to play in a conference that isn't the Big Ten or Pac-12. If I'm an elite player, I want to maximize my potential by facing great competition night in and night out during the season. UT players get better competition in practice than during league play (for the most part). That's not to take away from UT's achievements, but I think that's in part why they come up short in the postseason more often than they should. On the other hand, their postseason accomplishments are nothing but admirable; I'm just considering their results with respect to their roster talent. Texas will get top level talent regardless of conference for several reasons:
1. The State of Texas is, and will continue to be, a hot-bed for girls club vball. Usually the top 4-5 players in the state are in the top 25 players rated nationally. Most of the top players in the state dream about playing for UT so they will always get 2 or 3 of the top 5 players in the state annually.
2. Elliott is one of the best recruiters in the country and historically lands a top out of state recruit (usually California).
3. UT has a top 10 overall Athletic program (facilities, funding, fan support, etc.), and volleyball facilities are great.
4. Great Academics (not quite Stanford)
5. Austin is a pretty cool town.
Texas may have the best all-around package to offer. The combination of great academics, campus, athletics, volleyball tradition, facilities, student life, city...... is in my opinion only rivaled by possibly Stanford. The fact Jerrit is also good at recruiting is a bonus, but secondary to the great of a product he has to sell.
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Post by bigfan on Mar 26, 2015 10:35:53 GMT -5
The fact Jerrit is also good at recruiting is a bonus, but secondary to the great of a product he has to sell. If Jerritt could actually coach would be nice.
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Post by bigfan on Mar 26, 2015 10:38:14 GMT -5
Maybe Mick can come watch us play in person on our home floor during the Regional in December. He knows his way to Gregory Gymnasium. You are very disrespectful.................. It is really speaks volumes about your own insecurities, that you get so rude and hyper defensive when someone points out what you (and everyone who has watched TX volleyball) knows to be true. So true and so sad. People who live their lives through others are sad.
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Post by southie on Mar 26, 2015 10:38:23 GMT -5
The fact Jerrit is also good at recruiting is a bonus, but secondary to the great of a product he has to sell. If Jerritt could actually coach would be nice. Yeah, Mick's best years are definitely behind him. He won't go quietly, though. USC's AD will have to boot him out before USC volleyball hits rock bottom.
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Post by vbprisoner on Mar 26, 2015 10:50:59 GMT -5
The fact Jerrit is also good at recruiting is a bonus, but secondary to the great of a product he has to sell. If Jerritt could actually coach would be nice. You don't need to keep stating your opinion......everyone knows it.
No need to be an agitator everyday on Texas threads.
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Post by volleyfiend on Mar 26, 2015 11:49:30 GMT -5
You would have to think any top recruit that is 2017 and beyond would have to consider long and hard about committing to USC because they might think how much longer will Haley actually be coaching? In 2017 he will be 73, a 2017 recruit might think....... will he still be coaching for my 4 years of college? That is a valid concern. Look at the fall off in top level talent Joe Paterno and Bobby Bowden got when they were in their mid 70s, and just a decade prior they were consistently perennial top 5 recruiting classes. The real question should be is he still coaching now!?
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Post by volleyfiend on Mar 26, 2015 11:53:44 GMT -5
If Jerritt could actually coach would be nice. You don't need to keep stating your opinion......everyone knows it.
No need to be an agitator everyday on Texas threads.
Mick is becoming bitter in his old age!
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Post by texasex01 on Mar 26, 2015 19:37:09 GMT -5
#Hook'Em
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2015 20:53:24 GMT -5
#Hook'Em Hmmm... I think there's a hidden message here with that fingernail polish.
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Post by bigfan on Mar 26, 2015 21:01:38 GMT -5
#Hook'Em Hmmm... I think there's a hidden message here with that fingernail polish. Great observation. Blue nail polish= water Hang loose sign = universal Hawai`ian sign
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Post by Boof1224 on Mar 26, 2015 21:10:00 GMT -5
Hmmm... I think there's a hidden message here with that fingernail polish. Great observation. Blue nail polish= water Hang loose sign = universal Hawai`ian sign Sorry, hang loose is pinky and thumb. Not pointer finger.
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