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Post by vbprisoner on May 6, 2015 18:24:37 GMT -5
If Texas uses their last scholarship for another OH, and denies the option of using it on a setter transfer..... I'd think that would deserve its own thread. Why? Are you in the know on the Texas program?
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Post by bball on May 6, 2015 18:27:10 GMT -5
yea, they only have one setter next season who is 5'7, nothing to back her up and if she run's a 5-1 (injury free), they're season won't go far.
----> my opinion
pretty sure Dalton is done!
----> my opinion
...ignoring this issue for another OH? I dunno. Gambling!
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Post by dorothymantooth on May 6, 2015 18:33:35 GMT -5
I'll say it because I think it's worth mentioning. If nwanebu chooses Nebraska I think it says a lot about the Nebraska program and where it's going. This is a program that has a history of not appealing to minority recruits (when was the last time the program had a black person on the team?), and yet they have the potential to land two high profile minority transfers in the same year!? Not doing any race bating here, I think it's great for the program. You tried this tactic when Briana was choosing between Nebraska, PSU, Washington and Wisconsin. The implication that Nebraska isn't appealing to minority recruits is insulting to iconic greats like Cepero, Nepo, and Saleaumua, our current players, Wong-Orantes and Holman, as well as recruits, Tiani Reeves and Chesney McClellan. Perhaps an even bigger deterrent to a prospect minority student in 2015 would be the very saddening and disappointing police shootings of unarmed black men (Toni Robinson in Madison, WI, and Frank Ernest Shepherd in Houston, TX) in some communities around the country. Gimme a break. There is zero reason to go there. The program has in fact had a hard time attracting minorities, something they recognized and have worked hard to change. Your post is irresponsible. AY brings up a legitimate point, which has been a challenge for their program. He specifically said he was race bating, and wasn't.
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Post by vbprisoner on May 6, 2015 18:34:22 GMT -5
I think they have two scholarships available.
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Post by bigfan on May 6, 2015 18:39:17 GMT -5
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Post by #skoskers on May 6, 2015 18:39:55 GMT -5
You tried this tactic when Briana was choosing between Nebraska, PSU, Washington and Wisconsin. The implication that Nebraska isn't appealing to minority recruits is insulting to iconic greats like Cepero, Nepo, and Saleaumua, our current players, Wong-Orantes and Holman, as well as recruits, Tiani Reeves and Chesney McClellan. Perhaps an even bigger deterrent to a prospect minority student in 2015 would be the very saddening and disappointing police shootings of unarmed black men (Toni Robinson in Madison, WI, and Frank Ernest Shepherd in Houston, TX) in some communities around the country. Gimme a break. There is zero reason to go there. The program has in fact had a hard time attracting minorities, something they recognized and have worked hard to change. Your post is irresponsible. AY brings up a legitimate point, which has been a challenge for their program. He specifically said he was race bating, and wasn't. How exactly is it irresponsible? Consider the source of Ay2013, Nebraska's biggest fan boi. This is his first compliment for the program? You and I have both discussed this very issue in private, so get off your soapbox.
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Post by #skoskers on May 6, 2015 18:43:01 GMT -5
And "irresponsible" apparently is DMT's word of the semain.
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Post by sunsuphornsup on May 6, 2015 18:54:05 GMT -5
Not a knock against Nebraska's volleyball program or Cook but I have to agree with the perception that in the past they've had a harder time recruiting players who identify as a racial minority.
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Post by dorothymantooth on May 6, 2015 18:55:58 GMT -5
Gimme a break. There is zero reason to go there. The program has in fact had a hard time attracting minorities, something they recognized and have worked hard to change. Your post is irresponsible. AY brings up a legitimate point, which has been a challenge for their program. He specifically said he was race bating, and wasn't. How exactly is it irresponsible? Consider the source of Ay2013, Nebraska's biggest fan boi. This is his first compliment for the program? You and I have both discussed this very issue in private, so get off your soapbox. Bringing up racial tensions in Madison and Houston? How is that in anyway relevant? I have taken issue with AY and what has been some pretty clear bias against Nebraska. But in this case he is accurate, and their is significance. Just no reason to go where you did.
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Post by swiss on May 6, 2015 19:41:14 GMT -5
There is no question this is a perception that's out there when it comes to black players. As a Texas fan, if we are recruiting a highly touted black player, and they are also considering Nebraska, I already know that we are going to get that player. Look at the diversity and make up of the teams that coach Elliott has had. Every year almost half the team is black, and if you don't think black players look at things like that, you are kidding yourself.
Meanwhile, look at the rosters and teams that Cook has had at Nebraska. Not very many black players at all, and like I said black players notice that. Especially in a sport that's not very diverse to begin with. Also it's funny that the Nebraska fans were and are the main people complaining about Destinee Hooker and Kat Bell and the way they celebrate, while Werth, and the way she celebrated was just as if not more over the top. I wonder why?
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Post by #skoskers on May 6, 2015 19:43:07 GMT -5
How exactly is it irresponsible? Consider the source of Ay2013, Nebraska's biggest fan boi. This is his first compliment for the program? You and I have both discussed this very issue in private, so get off your soapbox. Bringing up racial tensions in Madison and Houston? How is that in anyway relevant? I have taken issue with AY and what has been some pretty clear bias against Nebraska. But in this case he is accurate, and their is significance. Just no reason to go where you did. You must have forgotten about Ay's past posts about minorities and Nebraska. He created a thread in January about the intersection of race and volleyball, while dogging on Nebraska in his OP. Actually, you went quite berserk in the Holman thread when he tried to claim that Nebraska volleyball is a hostile place for minorities, because you felt he was fear mongering recruits from considering Nebraska. My mention of these clashes with the police around the country is quite relevant, because Lincoln doesn't have thousands of people protesting for social justice in the aftermath of real racial tensions, not perceived ones at a storied college volleyball program.
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Post by bball on May 6, 2015 19:48:18 GMT -5
this is so dumb, WHO CARES! good lord.
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Post by dorothymantooth on May 6, 2015 19:54:09 GMT -5
Bringing up racial tensions in Madison and Houston? How is that in anyway relevant? I have taken issue with AY and what has been some pretty clear bias against Nebraska. But in this case he is accurate, and their is significance. Just no reason to go where you did. You must have forgotten about Ay's past posts about minorities and Nebraska. He created a thread in January about the intersection of race and volleyball, while dogging on Nebraska in his OP. Actually, you went quite berserk in the Holman thread when he tried to claim that Nebraska volleyball is a hostile place for minorities, because you felt he was fear mongering recruits from considering Nebraska. My mention of these clashes with the police around the country is quite relevant, because Lincoln doesn't have thousands of people protesting for social justice in the aftermath of real racial tensions, not perceived ones at a storied college volleyball program. "quite berserk"? I don't recall the context of his post then, but in this case I see zero wrong with a point he made that I don't disagree with. No interest in back and forth with you on this.
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Post by #skoskers on May 6, 2015 19:58:00 GMT -5
You must have forgotten about Ay's past posts about minorities and Nebraska. He created a thread in January about the intersection of race and volleyball, while dogging on Nebraska in his OP. Actually, you went quite berserk in the Holman thread when he tried to claim that Nebraska volleyball is a hostile place for minorities, because you felt he was fear mongering recruits from considering Nebraska. My mention of these clashes with the police around the country is quite relevant, because Lincoln doesn't have thousands of people protesting for social justice in the aftermath of real racial tensions, not perceived ones at a storied college volleyball program. "quite berserk"? I don't recall the context of his post then, but in this case I see zero wrong with a point he made that I don't disagree with. No interest in back and forth with you on this. Word.
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Post by ay2013 on May 6, 2015 20:01:07 GMT -5
I'll say it because I think it's worth mentioning. If nwanebu chooses Nebraska I think it says a lot about the Nebraska program and where it's going. This is a program that has a history of not appealing to minority recruits (when was the last time the program had a black person on the team?), and yet they have the potential to land two high profile minority transfers in the same year!? Not doing any race bating here, I think it's great for the program. You tried this tactic when Briana was choosing between Nebraska, PSU, Washington and Wisconsin. The implication that Nebraska isn't appealing to minority recruits is insulting to iconic greats like Cepero, Nepo, and Saleaumua, our current players, Wong-Orantes and Holman, as well as recruits, Tiani Reeves and Chesney McClellan. Perhaps an even bigger deterrent to a prospect minority student in 2015 would be the very saddening and disappointing police shootings of unarmed black men (Toni Robinson in Madison, WI, and Frank Ernest Shepherd in Houston, TX) in some communities around the country. You act like Holman or Ebony seek out my advice when making their decisions. I wish I had such power. Anyway, you can take my comments how you want, but I stand 100% by that I said in both. I think for you to suggest that Nebraska as program doesn't have some sort of chip on it's shoulder when it comes to minority recruits is ignoring the obvious. Yes, minorities HAVE played for the program, that actually wasn't my point, and, even if we are going there, there is like a 10 year gap between Jen S. and Wong Orantes...you can count the number of minorities in the Nebraska program in the last 15-20 years on one hand. But my point in this last comment was not to bash them for their past, it was to highlight where it is going as a future, which is a good thing! The fact that we are even discussing that two black 1st team all americans are TRANSFERING to Nebraska speaks volumes to the program, and will open up many, many doors in the recruiting world. I can see it, others can see it to. I'm not sure why you can't.
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